Preview 2023 Rd 12 Carlton vs Melbourne Friday June 2 7:50PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …





IN: Alex Cincotta, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

25

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

OUT: Corey Durdin (knee), George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

(concussion), Ollie Hollands (collarbone), Nic Newman

24

Nic Newman

Age

31

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

(hamstring), Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(hand), Ed Curnow

AFL team changes: Five ins for Friday

Carlton has named five returnees for Friday night football.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Brodie Kemp
Half-backs:	Lewis Young	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Jesse Motlop	Charlie Curnow	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Zac Fisher	Harry McKay	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Matthew Kennedy	Adam Cerra
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	Sam Docherty
	Lochie O'Brien
Emergencies:	Ed Curnow	Paddy Dow	Lachie Fogarty
	Lachie Plowman

 

[RedFury]

Voss presser post game:
"Well, we made him sub.
Unfortunately there was no opportunity for him to come on."
( Voss giggles for a full minute.)

"When the player went down injured, it was a tough call between Paddy and being one down on the bench, but I thought the bench held up well in the end."

 

[jpfalvo]

So "Cripps /Kennedy/Hewett all together is rubbish" - even though "they played together last year and 'we performed'.."

I'm liking the logic here.

Let me rephrase. Response to the poster suggesting all 3 can't play together.

Ie. Kennedy / Cripps/ Hewett -> but they did in 2022 and performed well.

So under Voss next man up mantra, Dow only comes in when there is a missing inside mid. (One of the 3)

Only that, when there is a missing inside mid, (one of the 3) he still doesnt come in.

Narrative then switches to we have too many inside mids, so Dow doesnt fit

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[kingkingston]

I hope they let Fisher play some midfield time tonight. To me, it seems pointless if you let him get back in form in the midfield in the reserves and just play him only in a forward role when he is in the AFL team.

 

[JustaBattler]

Let me rephrase. Response to the poster suggesting all 3 can't play together.

Ie. Kennedy / Cripps/ Hewett -> but they did in 2022 and performed well.

So under Voss next man up mantra, Dow only comes in when there is a missing inside mid. (One of the 3)

Only that, when there is a missing inside mid, (one of the 3) he still doesnt come in.

Narrative then switches to we have too many inside mids, so Dow doesnt fit

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Voss has been rotating every mid except Cripps - he wants player able to play at lest two roles...
Peopel have been making thsi point for months to teh Dow fanboyz - you dont wish to understand what is going on...

 

[M_I_G]

Anyone hearing rumors of doch being late out?
He’s more of a mid than Dow
But I guess Dow would be in??

 

[BlueVision]

Voss has been rotating every mid except Cripps - he wants player able to play at lest two roles...
Peopel have been making thsi point for months to teh Dow fanboyz - you dont wish to understand what is going on...

Dow's form has warranted the opportunity to play seniors, not sure why that makes posters "Dow fanboyz" as you say....it's called selection integrity.

 

[jpfalvo]

Hollands/Cowan/Cincotta/Motlop/Durdin/Kemp/Honey

all being played by Voss - kinda makes your statement ...a tad questionable.

Silvagni/Ed Curnow/Fisher/LoB all previous starting players - all dropped by Voss as well as Young...

I think players are being given opportunity - and plenty of it.

a bit of fairness taking into account facts as demonstrated by actual team sheets - might be warranted dont you think?

Talking about Voss at Brisbane.

The 5 that left all played games under Voss just as many as the players you have listed.

Docherty 13
Karnezis 21
Yeo 27
Polec 16
Longer 9

I dont have a crystal ball, and cant predict the future, for our kids but comment was in relation posters observations of Brisbane Voss.






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[djholmes]

At least Dow is quick. Our midfield is too slow. Dow would add some zip through the middle.

 

[djholmes]

I would be tempted to play Cripps forward given his bad form and he is too slow. Should move Saad onto the Wing and play this midfield which is much quicker.

Acres------------------Cerra------------------Saad

Foll: De Koning, Dow, Walsh

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I hope they let Fisher play some midfield time tonight. To me, it seems pointless if you let him get back in form in the midfield in the reserves and just play him only in a forward role when he is in the AFL team.

Problem is he’s the best and most productive HFF we have.

I like Cottrell on the other side but he pushes quite high and doesn’t find the ball like Fish can. Cotters more competitive in the contest of course.

I think we are getting towards the right mix provided they all play how we know they can.

 

[jpfalvo]

Voss has been rotating every mid except Cripps - he wants player able to play at lest two roles...
Peopel have been making thsi point for months to teh Dow fanboyz - you dont wish to understand what is going on...

I am not a Dow fanboy and I doubt alot of posters here are.

However, clearly what Voss wants isnt working is it?

Therefore changing things up and giving Dow a go to reward good reserves form is all most are asking?

Most of us, want to see some changes to the mix, a little speed in the middle ideally. Dow is the obvious example in the 2s to get a chance.

Assume you will be barracking for his non performance tonight, based off your comment....as he can't play 2 positions....

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[I bleed Blue]

Need some nourishment tonight

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Anyone hearing rumors of doch being late out?
He’s more of a mid than Dow
But I guess Dow would be in??

I haven’t heard this, but I think (was it last week or week before) he had a bit of a grab at his hammy

 

[jpfalvo]

Anyone hearing rumors of doch being late out?
He’s more of a mid than Dow
But I guess Dow would be in??

Yes, hearing same. Checking a source to Confirm.

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[Lukeblueboy]

Need some nourishment tonight

Is party pies, French fries and nuggets good enough?

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Voss has been rotating every mid except Cripps - he wants player able to play at lest two roles...
Peopel have been making thsi point for months to teh Dow fanboyz - you dont wish to understand what is going on...

That's pretty dismissive Jab.

What second role have those guys been able to play this year? When they do, they've done as well as Dow used to do at half forward.

Don't get me wrong, when Dow was playing seniors, his defensive efforts infuriated me.

This year, I've been infuriated by many senior players defensive efforts. I've been infuriated by their clearance efforts too.

I'm now at the stage where I want to take another look at Dow with all of his so called limitations, because I've seen everyone else's limitations on full display this season, and am hoping that he has found some improvement in his game when it translates to the big time.

I'm far from a Dow fan boy. I do want the VFL to be a stepping stone though and not a graveyard.

When things are going bad, you need a circuit breaker. Invariably that's a coach sacking but before we do that again, game plan tweaks and selection change ups to find a better mix, can be that circuit breaker.

 

[choo]

First Docherty doesn’t want to stay in the same hotel, now he doesn’t want to play in the same team.
Club in crisis.


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[Blue_Fusion]

Need some nourishment tonight

You'll get it in the press conference after the game

 

[Jimmyonesix]

Voss has been rotating every mid except Cripps - he wants player able to play at lest two roles...
Peopel have been making thsi point for months to teh Dow fanboyz - you dont wish to understand what is going on...

Kennedy second position as a half back isn't working -

 

[passmark]

McLean 2 goals, 6 marks. Young would have been a better option on him you'd think.

Maybe. But they didn’t think so

 

[Benaly28]

Didn’t train on Thursday so probably didn’t pull up.


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[HarryFlashman]

Voss has been rotating every mid except Cripps - he wants player able to play at lest two roles...
Peopel have been making thsi point for months to teh Dow fanboyz - you dont wish to understand what is going on...

How about we get players to play one role well first - we struggle to even do that.

 

[xDQ82x]

Is there a pass mark for Dow tonight? Let's assume he gets a QTR?

 

[Kruezing]

Rumours on TC as well that Doc may be a late out

 

[HarryFlashman]

Is there a pass mark for Dow tonight? Let's assume he gets a QTR?

It’s hard, depends where the game is at & how much time- 1 qtr sucks as he will come in and really try & probably try to hard.
Pass mark is opening up play and creating some drive & a few quality clearances. Doing something with the opportunities that present.