Preview 2023 Rd 12 Carlton vs Melbourne Friday June 2 7:50PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …





IN: Alex Cincotta, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

25

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

, Lochie O'Brien

4

Lochie O'brien

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.9

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

3star

CL

0.7

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.4

4star

CL

1.0

3star

, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

OUT: Corey Durdin (knee), George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

(concussion), Ollie Hollands (collarbone), Nic Newman

24

Nic Newman

Age

31

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

(hamstring), Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(hand), Ed Curnow

AFL team changes: Five ins for Friday

Carlton has named five returnees for Friday night football.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Brodie Kemp
Half-backs:	Lewis Young	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Jesse Motlop	Charlie Curnow	Jack Silvagni
Forwards:	Zac Fisher	Harry McKay	Matthew Owies
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Matthew Kennedy	Adam Cerra
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	Sam Docherty
	Lochie O'Brien
Emergencies:	Ed Curnow	Paddy Dow	Lachie Fogarty
	Lachie Plowman

 

[Bletch]

No matchup in Sydney

McLean 2 goals, 6 marks. Young would have been a better option on him you'd think.

 

[GoBlues!]

Happy Paddy Day !!!

All we are saying is....

 

[Stamos]

His goal kicking, especially set shot is sub par. So hey, why not throw him forward and see if he can kick 0.4 just like the rest.

Sigh.....

It wasn't last year though

 

[TENACIOUS]

I'm a sucker for punishment, on the train

 

[myblueroan]

Paddy sub…

Voss presser post game:
"Well, we made him sub.
Unfortunately there was no opportunity for him to come on."
( Voss giggles for a full minute.)

 

[myblueroan]

I'm a sucker for punishment, on the train

 

[katmanblue]

Paddy sub…

We really need to see Paddy Dom.

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[dumb]

Voss presser post game:
"Well, we made him sub.
Unfortunately there was no opportunity for him to come on."
( Voss giggles for a full minute.)

we had an injury early but he can only play inside mid, so he didn't run out

 

[goreds]

Why was Young ever dropped?

Because he played poorly and cost us goals on multiple weeks…

 

[goreds]

I'm a sucker for punishment, on the train

Might go to Vivid tonight, not sure I can handle another Carlton performance…

 

[btdg]

Because he played poorly and cost us goals on multiple weeks…

Our coaching staff are far too concerned with the limitations of players and not their strengths

Might be a hot take but perhaps if we kicked 15 goals each week instead of 7, we could afford to back in a promising young defender who has only played 50 games if they make a mistake or two (or we could back in a young ballwinner who struggles defensively, or back Cripps to go forward and kick goals, or back Saad to run and create... or... etcm.)

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Voss presser post game:
"Well, we made him sub.
Unfortunately there was no opportunity for him to come on."
( Voss giggles for a full minute.)

Apologies to Matt Damon, we ran out of time.

 

[Aphrodite]

Link now fixed ...

https://archive.md/Eaph2#selection-811.0-817.123

Carlton fringe midfielder Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

is expected to be named as the Blues’ substitute for Friday night’s clash against Melbourne.
Dow, 23, was named as an emergency for the mist-win game but is expected to be named as the sub one hour before the bounce.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Might go to Vivid tonight, not sure I can handle another Carlton performance…

I need to get my weekly fix of “Sweet Caroline or Horses” at half time

 

[myblueroan]

Our coaching staff are far too concerned with the limitations of players and not their strengths

Might be a hot take but perhaps if we kicked 15 goals each week instead of 7, we could afford to back in a promising young defender who has only played 50 games if they make a mistake or two (or we could back in a young ballwinner who struggles defensively, or back Cripps to go forward and kick goals, or back Saad to run and create... or... etcm.)

 

[Cringle]

Vossy to have a last minute change of heart and give Ed the sub vest.

"We felt his experience was necessary coming into such a significant game.

And I hate Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

so much."

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Wondering if there's an out as I heard yesterday Fog got the tap on the shoulder to be Sub. Hoping not and that Dow just earnt it and Fog missed out

 

[btdg]

Dow as the sub would have been a good option from day one. Bit of extra burst in the center square against tired legs and someone who can kick a goal against tired opponents.

With all the noise, hopefully it still works. Much better than guys like O'Brien or Curnow who are endurance runners

 

[teddy-hopkins]

He's 23 dude, settle down.

I think you missed the point of my post. Not saying he's done if he can't make it in the next 2 weeks.

 

[jpfalvo]

Never said we had amazing development (although seems to have improved ie: drafting youngsters & actually playing them in their actual position). Nor do I necessarily think we did/didn't do Dow dirty with his development as I'm not privy to the inner workings of the club.
Was responding to a comment.
Dow for his position (ie: Per Voss & others at the club's next man up mantra) is behind others. Simple. Noted he can't play a secondary position. We're (as you said above) already playing mids out of position why add another that can't play a secondary position? If Cezz got done at the tribunal, Dow plays. If Kennedy/Cripps wasn't playing, Dow plays. Sucks for the young bloke but it's the reality in our midfield at the moment. They're never gonna drop the Captain regardless of form & he's behind Kennedy/Hewett & Cezz. (all without even mentioning Walsh having to play HHF/Mid/Wing mix). Personally I wouldn't have even brought LOB in this week & pushed Walshy to the wing swapping in/out with Cezz but hey.. that's me.

Hewetts been out multiple times, Dow didnt come in.

Kennedys been out, Dow didn't come in.

Unless the suggestion is all of Cripps, Kennedy and Hewett out, then Dow comes in?

While we are on it, the narrative of all 3 -> cripps, kennedy, hewett cant play together is rubbish as well.

They did it last year and we performed.

Kennedy played at half back, so out of position is a bug question to ask, and directly on Voss. Makes no sense

Cripps doesnt go forward this year is another.

Hewett playing when clearly not right, another.

Lets use the Setterfield example from last year. When played in position as centre square mid, did very well -> collingwood and Melbourne games.

Flailed in his role on a wing in previous games, because he is not a winger.

So back Dow, its clear the midfield isnt functioning. Try something different with Dow in the centre square mix, cant make us any worse...

Selecting Dow as a sub, will validate the clubs self fulfilling prophesy of he is not up to it. Let alone the scrutiny each possession he has in the few minutes he will get his chance. Just watch...

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[JustaBattler]

Hewetts been out multiple times, Dow didnt come in.

Kennedys been out, Dow didn't come in.

Unless the suggestion is all of Cripps, Kennedy and Hewett out, then Dow comes in?

While we are on it, the narrative of all 3 -> cripps, kennedy, hewett cant play together is rubbish as well.

They did it last year and we performed.

Kennedy played at half back, so out of position is a bug question to ask, and directly on Voss. Makes no sense

Cripps doesnt go forward this year is another.

Hewett playing when clearly not right, another.

Lets use the Setterfield example from last year. When played in position as centre square mid, did very well -> collingwood and Melbourne games.

Flailed in his role on a wing in previous games, because he is not a winger.

So back Dow, its clear the midfield isnt functioning. Try something different with Dow in the centre square mix, cant make us any worse...

Selecting Dow as a sub, will validate the clubs self fulfilling prophesy of he is not up to it. Let alone the scrutiny each possession he has in the few minutes he will get his chance. Just watch...

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So "Cripps /Kennedy/Hewett all together is rubbish" - even though "they played together last year and 'we performed'.."

I'm liking the logic here.

 

[jpfalvo]

That's not new. He's always gone the conservative route with experience and the guys he knows more than youth and something different, even dating back to his Brisbane days it was his m.o.

I'm disappointed it hasn't changed.

And the young talent wanted out of Brissie as a result.

Including Docherty....

One of the reasons they had to move Voss on

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[choo]

I'm a sucker for punishment, on the train

From Geelong!!


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[choo]

Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

as the sub.
No I’m okay I can stay on.

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[JustaBattler]

And the young talent wanted out of Brissie as a result.

Including Docherty....

One of the reasons they had to move Voss on

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Hollands/Cowan/Cincotta/Motlop/Durdin/Kemp/Honey

all being played by Voss - kinda makes your statement ...a tad questionable.

Silvagni/Ed Curnow/Fisher/LoB all previous starting players - all dropped by Voss as well as Young...

I think players are being given opportunity - and plenty of it.

a bit of fairness taking into account facts as demonstrated by actual team sheets - might be warranted dont you think?