Traded Bryce Gibbs [traded to Adelaide] - (cont. in Part 2)
- Thread starter Ian Dunross
- Start date
- Tagged users None
BluStreak
Norm Smith Medallist
Status Quo then
BluStreak
Norm Smith Medallist
The media. hahahahahahahahahahaa
Who gives a ***** about the media?
- Oct 4, 2013
- 1,656
- 2,604
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Still dirty after said B+ Grade player destroyed them in rd 22.
- Feb 6, 2016
- 5,066
- 9,922
- AFL Club
- Carlton
I keep seeing this posted. How is this any different to a 17 yo kid getting drafted to a club he doesn't want to play for? Draftees have to play for who they get drafted by, they dont get to put down preferences. Most get over it pretty quickly.
Gibbs is a professional. He'll train to his full extent and hopefully play to a similar level that he did this year. The idea of Bryce harbouring deep-seated hatred of Carlton is just fanciful and comes across as sour grapes.
Adelaide had their chance and they ****ed it up royally. Looking forward to seeing the same team line up in round one 2017 as the one who got spanked in the 2016 semis. Wheres your improvement coming from? Dear oh dear. Quite the conundrum, isnt it? Oh well. All the best lads
SOS told them on day one what they were offering was a long way from what was required, instead Reid proceeded to put worse offers on the table right up until the last minute (If we didn't want Lyon why would Reid think that Kelly would be of any interest).
I was talking about AFC accepting it wasn't going anywhere and all the AFL clubs could have got on with getting deals done. Unfortunately GWS seemed to think we were going to get 13 and held out till the last minute to get it.
In contrast Geelong spent a couple of days talking to the Tigers about Deludio and withdrew their interest because the deal wasn't going to get done and if you consider they then traded Caddy to the Tigers for an early/mid 2nd they weren't that far away.
I keep seeing this posted. How is this any different to a 17 yo kid getting drafted to a club he doesn't want to play for? Draftees have to play for who they get drafted by, they dont get to put down preferences. Most get over it pretty quickly.
Gibbs is a professional. He'll train to his full extent and hopefully play to a similar level that he did this year. The idea of Bryce harbouring deep-seated hatred of Carlton is just fanciful and comes across as sour grapes.
Adelaide had their chance and they stuffed it up royally. Looking forward to seeing the same team line up in round one 2017 as the one who got spanked in the 2016 semis. Wheres your improvement coming from? Dear oh dear. Quite the conundrum, isnt it? Oh well. All the best lads
So you dont think the media, will have a field day on this, the guy requested he be traded away from carlton which logic means he didnt want to be there. Or are you saying he asked for a trade but didnt really want to leave?
you watch the game did you. Carlton must have been playing at a different time then??I keep seeing this posted. How is this any different to a 17 yo kid getting drafted to a club he doesn't want to play for? Draftees have to play for who they get drafted by, they dont get to put down preferences. Most get over it pretty quickly.
Gibbs is a professional. He'll train to his full extent and hopefully play to a similar level that he did this year. The idea of Bryce harbouring deep-seated hatred of Carlton is just fanciful and comes across as sour grapes.
Adelaide had their chance and they stuffed it up royally. Looking forward to seeing the same team line up in round one 2017 as the one who got spanked in the 2016 semis. Wheres your improvement coming from? Dear oh dear. Quite the conundrum, isnt it? Oh well. All the best lads
When a club commits to a player and offers them a 5 year contract it's down to them to get the deal done .
When the player is vice captain and CONTRACTED for 3 more years , you must expect to pay overs , not what you consider to be fair .
Richmond committed to Prestia
Hawthorn committed to Omeara
Carlton committed to Marchbank
etc etc etc
They all worked hard and honored their commitment .
Reid has damaged his own reputation here and embarrassed the AFC in front of the watching football world .
- Feb 6, 2016
- 5,066
- 9,922
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Same team line up in round 1, 2017. Thats gonna be good for a laugh. No new experienced players in and you lost a starting 22 for nix.
Implosion imminent?
Pretty sure the wife would be more than undestandable to a husband who plays AFL football and receives in excess of half a million a year but only for a short period of their life. In fact do you think any wife would not understand the enormous benefit that is to their lives. Its obvious the whole family wanted to return to Adelaide but as I said Adelaide werent go to pay overs and shouldnt have but Carlton had a figure they wanted and shouldnt need to alter their opinion either
There really is only one loser and thats Gibbs, the other losers could be Adelaide, would Gibbs have made us a stronger team, that can never ever be answered , we had a pretty solid year with improvemnt from the young stars coming through, it may take us to the next level , Would Carlton be stronger with the pick we had given them and got a gun, who knows, we will now never know .
One thing we will find out though if Gibbs plays poorly he will be drilled in the media
I keep seeing this posted. How is this any different to a 17 yo kid getting drafted to a club he doesn't want to play for? Draftees have to play for who they get drafted by, they dont get to put down preferences. Most get over it pretty quickly.
Gibbs is a professional. He'll train to his full extent and hopefully play to a similar level that he did this year. The idea of Bryce harbouring deep-seated hatred of Carlton is just fanciful and comes across as sour grapes.
Adelaide had their chance and they stuffed it up royally. Looking forward to seeing the same team line up in round one 2017 as the one who got spanked in the 2016 semis. Wheres your improvement coming from? Dear oh dear. Quite the conundrum, isnt it? Oh well. All the best lads
Well, well, well. Someone is very emotional today. Sad that you didn’t offload Gibbs for a ridiculous price?
We won't have the same line up either, we traded Lyons, have a think about before you start mashing the keys because it makes you look really upset that Adelaide didn't let you have 2 first round picks for a 28 year old. Enjoy that bottom 4 again! What is it now 4, 5, 6 years that you have been dwelling down there and getting some royal floggings?
- Aug 20, 2013
- 3,355
- 5,985
- AFL Club
- Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Hammarby IF, Toronto Raptors
Don't really see why there is hate being levelled at either side here.
Carlton weren't happy with the offer? Fair enough, he's a contracted player.
Adelaide felt that they couldn't afford what was being asked for? Ok, that's their call.
It's a shame that it ended up as a loss for Gibbs but it is professional sport and that can happen.
The part I am really mad about is that Adelaide traded out Lyons for so little and that we had no other irons in the fire seemingly. That was the real failure.
Also not enjoying that the media are going to lay it on both teams now. Adelaide and Carlton already seem to get whipped by the media in a way that few other clubs do.
Carlton weren't happy with the offer? Fair enough, he's a contracted player.
Adelaide felt that they couldn't afford what was being asked for? Ok, that's their call.
It's a shame that it ended up as a loss for Gibbs but it is professional sport and that can happen.
The part I am really mad about is that Adelaide traded out Lyons for so little and that we had no other irons in the fire seemingly. That was the real failure.
Also not enjoying that the media are going to lay it on both teams now. Adelaide and Carlton already seem to get whipped by the media in a way that few other clubs do.
Brasher
Premium Platinum
So what would make Reid a professional? Trading two firsts and a best 22 to get Gibbs...maybe this amateur list manager has a bigger picture plan in mind and Gibbs was a one off opportunity that the Crows tried to take advantage of but were not prepared to abandon their plans to achieve.
I really don't get the barbs being thrown around by Blues fans at Reid... Carlton held all the cards here and the Crows chose not to buy. Had he bitten I can see the avalanche of posters laughing at how they reamed Adelaide.
You kept your contracted player....good for Carlton and many I have seen are happy for that but if you are so happy why snipe at Adelaide for not getting him traded out?
As far as the wasted two weeks of negotation goes, I have no dout Silvagni had absolutely no intention of trading Gibbs anyway.
A professional negotiator would have realised no deal was going to get done, walked away early in the trade period and worked on finding a cheaper solution to fill the holes in your list.
Instead AFC wasted their time and didn't address the weaknesses in their and actually made it worse by trading out a young midfielder.
If he was so concerned about providing support for his partner he wouldn't be on a boys trip to Vegas, so I don't think their will be any drop off in his performance and will be welcomed back.
I was happy to trade Gibbs at the right price, but also happy to keep him at what was offered. He will still be worth an AFC first rounder next year.
We managed to do the deals we wanted which is something AFC can't say they achieved.
BluesRule
Premiership Player
- Dec 16, 2013
- 3,724
- 4,216
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Still pissed about Barassi
BluesRule
Premiership Player
- Dec 16, 2013
- 3,724
- 4,216
- AFL Club
- Carlton
Imagine the drama if Hogan decides he wants to go home after all...
Brasher
Premium Platinum
This is a fair take but without knowing what Adelaide's plan are and how seriously the Gibbs' opportunity was considered and the impact all this is pure speculation. Obviously, the Carlton price was too high for the Crows and they took a "see if they blink first approach"...there was little news leading up to the draft that the Crows were goign to be active players and they had indicated an intent to use their Pick 13 in the draft.
I dare say that if SOS thought it was a waste of time he could have closed negotiations earlier too....however I reckon that would not have fit with his plans of at least presenting to the Gibbs camp an intent to get him to Adelaide.
The Crows list is not at the same place the Blues one is so we can't compare how each club went about trade week.
harrisendblue
Club Legend
i think well just stick with the catters and hawks who us and our good buddies the gw giants.
uhhhh y-yeah... he's definitely the one who is getting emotional here
So I'm not the only one that noticed it.
Awesome thanks for backing me up
harrisendblue
Club Legend
we have already dealt with it. they have already arranged extra family support (mrs sticks). the gibbas are already so happy with it gibba can go overseas with murph and his carlton mates.
tipstar
Premium Gold
- Oct 9, 2009
- 376
- 402
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Everything Detroit
The question(s) no one seems to know the answer to is;
Did Adelaide actually offer 13 and a 2nd round pick with nothing going back?
Did Adelaide actually try to get a 2nd pick that could be the circuit breaker ala Wright going to SOS for the O'Meara deal? (Please don't use trading Lyons for pick 43 for there's no way that was going to cut it)
Did they offer their 2017 2nd pick?
If the reports are true and they only offered 13, Jake Kelly and the swap of future picks or was it a future 3rd, then that's where their offer was laughable and not even meeting Carlton half way.
If Adelaide could've somehow got a pick say 20-30 region and on traded it, SOS just might've taken that....
Did Adelaide actually offer 13 and a 2nd round pick with nothing going back?
Did Adelaide actually try to get a 2nd pick that could be the circuit breaker ala Wright going to SOS for the O'Meara deal? (Please don't use trading Lyons for pick 43 for there's no way that was going to cut it)
Did they offer their 2017 2nd pick?
If the reports are true and they only offered 13, Jake Kelly and the swap of future picks or was it a future 3rd, then that's where their offer was laughable and not even meeting Carlton half way.
If Adelaide could've somehow got a pick say 20-30 region and on traded it, SOS just might've taken that....
Similar threads
