Geelong: why are they just not good enough?

[redally]

Neither do Sydney but they seem to find one here and there.
You found one in Kelly. Hopefully he stays at Geelong.

Haha I could write out a list of great finds in the team but it's too much typing.

 

[SCRAY72]

Haha I could write out a list of great finds in the team but it's too much typing.

Sorry for not supplying more examples.

 

[Rich01]

I don’t know how anyone would know this considering we have only really had two solid seasons of trying to develop any, and for the majority of that time most of the players most likely to achieve anything have been injured

He’s been coach of Geelong since 2011.
That’s eight years of excuses right there why he hasn’t been able to develop junior talent.

 

[Rich01]

Exactly right. I look at them and Richmond or even the Swans (until recently) who have had success against them and I think it's fairly obvious why.

The Tigers have star players but they've also got blokes like Butler, Rioli, Castagna, Graham, Edwards etc who fly under the radar a bit but are playing their role each week, all buying into Dimma's gameplan.

If they're smart about it they could probably improve things quickly. Didn't take the Tigers long at all to find Rioli, Butler, Castagna, Graham etc.

I question though if Chris Scott has the ability to build a team this way though. He's been very reliant on Selwood and a few over the years and now Dangerfield and a few.

Problem is, Chris Scott can’t develop younger players.

 

[tigertigertiger]

Being a 360 panelist instead of a coach

 

[peternorth]

And kane cornes believes the players were too focussed on organising their wacky wednesday costumes instead of the finals

 

[Bazzar]

And kane cornes believes the players were too focussed on organising their wacky wednesday costumes instead of the finals

Ib4 the Kane Cornes hate comments by the Cat suporters

 

[PhatBoy]

He’s been coach of Geelong since 2011.
That’s eight years of excuses right there why he hasn’t been able to develop junior talent.

And we've had an older squad of champion players for most of that time and and been focused on contending. Why would he have spent 8 years focusing on developing junior talent in that scenario?

 

[PhatBoy]

Ib4 the Kane Cornes hate comments by the Cat suporters

Well * me what a stupid comment to make.

It takes how long, an hour or so sitting at the laptop one night to I set a costume?

'Sorry coach I can't make it to our video session today because I've got to spend 30 seconds entering my Pay Pal details to a costume website.'


Seriously what a ridiculous claim.

Did Menegola hit the post because he was worried about his Russell Coigt hat?

 

[PhatBoy]

Being a 360 panelist instead of a coach

Yeah it's a good point. It's why Jack riewoldt has lurched from one disgraceful performance to the next, because he spends time on a panel show once a week.

 

[Rich01]

And we've had an older squad of champion players for most of that time and and been focused on contending. Why would he have spent 8 years focusing on developing junior talent in that scenario?

So you don’t end up where you are now, relying on the same old players to get you up in games without the support.

 

[PhatBoy]

So you don’t end up where you are now, relying on the same old players to get you up in games without the support.

If you do that you concede that you probably can't win. We've been to three prelims since 2011 so despite our insipid efforts in two of them it has indeed kept us in contention.
It is virtually impossible to do both - people will probably point to Clarkson but even he has had to rely heavily on bringing in players from elsewhere.

 

[Rich01]

If you do that you concede that you probably can't win. We've been to three prelims since 2011 so despite our insipid efforts in two of them it has indeed kept us in contention.
It is virtually impossible to do both - people will probably point to Clarkson but even he has had to rely heavily on bringing in players from elsewhere.

Yeah Clarkson brought players in and developed his own. Burton, Worpel, Hardwick, Sicily, Howe, Shiels, Smith, Bruest, Roughead, Stratton, Puopolo and Stratton, Nash all developed by him from last weeks game.

 

[PhatBoy]

Yeah Clarkson brought players in and developed his own. Burton, Worpel, Hardwick, Sicily, Howe, Shiels, Smith, Bruest, Roughead, Stratton, Puopolo and Stratton, Nash all developed by him from last weeks game.

Abbott, bews, Blicavs, Guthrie, Henry, kelly, kolojdadshnij, Menegola, Murdoch, O'Connor, Parfitt and Stewart all debuted under scott of the players the other night. That's exactly the same amount of players you named for Clarkson! (You wrote Stratton twice). And four of them - Roughead, Smith, Breust and Shiels - debuted before Scott even started coaching!

 

[99cents]

Need some speed- anyone available?

 

[T G M]

Need some speed- anyone available?

Bomber left years ago.

 

[Black Panther]

And kane cornes believes the players were too focussed on organising their wacky wednesday costumes instead of the finals

Well ... he's not completely wrong

 

[peternorth]

Well ... he's not completely wrong

Hey! Funny thing, i was just posting about Black Panther (movie) and got an alert saying you quoted me.

Scary

 

[tigertigertiger]

Yeah it's a good point. It's why Jack riewoldt has lurched from one disgraceful performance to the next, because he spends time on a panel show once a week.

his coach doesn't

 

[Rich01]

Abbott, bews, Blicavs, Guthrie, Henry, kelly, kolojdadshnij, Menegola, Murdoch, O'Connor, Parfitt and Stewart all debuted under scott of the players the other night. That's exactly the same amount of players you named for Clarkson! (You wrote Stratton twice). And four of them - Roughead, Smith, Breust and Shiels - debuted before Scott even started coaching!

Stewart, Menegola, Kelly and Abbott were mature agers that came into the club.

Of the rest, you would have to say that Blicavs is the only one that has progressed to a decent level.

Chris Scott has a poor track record developing junior players.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

And kane cornes believes the players were too focussed on organising their wacky wednesday costumes instead of the finals

That's another lazy cop out.
We don't need Kane Cornes making excuses on our behalf.

 

[threesixpio]

Will the “I don’t get it” Gary Rohan make Geelong “good enough”?

 

[threesixpio]

Need some speed- anyone available?

See above post

 

[PhatBoy]

his coach doesn't

So what? Are you seriously suggesting that the two hours that Scott dedicates to doing an interview every Monday night is why no c*** could hit a target last Friday


My god Big Footy must have the highest concentration of psychologists and behavioural analysts on the planet

 

[THECHIEFTON]

Need some speed- anyone available?

Spot on. Bit slow and don't apply enough pressure. That's what wins finals atm. S. Selwood, Menzel, Taylor, Henderson etc...Those types are to slow. Henry should stay in the backline ahead of Taylor. Henderson I'd keep. With Narkle, Jones and Cockatoo back in the forward line they will be heaps quicker. Rats, cunico and Fogarty back in the team aswell.

It's not all doom and gloom for next year. They were just carrying to many plodders for most of this year.