Traded Robbie Tarrant [traded to Richmond for CCJ + other stuff]

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NORTH Melbourne veteran Robbie Tarrant

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Robbie Tarrant

Age

35

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

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Last 5

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14.5

4star

K

9.4

4star

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5.1

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.8

4star

MG

284.7

4star

D

15.1

4star

K

11.9

5star

HB

3.3

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.5

2star

MG

359.3

5star

D

11.0

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

has told the Roos he wants to leave and chase a premiership at Richmond.

As revealed by AFL.com.au on Friday, the Tigers have offered the 32-year-old a two-year deal to join from next season.

Tarrant will be free to walk to the Tigers from October 1 given he qualifies as an unrestricted free agent.

The Roos initially tabled their former vice-captain a one-year deal before upping the offer to two years in recent days.

However, that delay allowed Tarrant to consider a move to another club for the first time in his career which he settled on Saturday morning.

Tarrant wants out: Veteran Roo to take up offer from big Victorian rival

The lure of a premiership has led key defender Robbie Tarrant to leave Arden Street

www.afl.com.au

 

[Benj7]

Ok didnt see this one coming.

So North go with Mckay and Corr

+ whoever they bring in for taz

 

[AnEmptyChair]

Ok didnt see this one coming.

So North go with Mckay and Corr

We have to look at a KPD replacement if Tarrant leaves, otherwise we're really short. Even if it's a stopgap for a couple of years before we're in a position to chase a good KPD free agent down the line.

 

[theyellowsash]

They only say once the application is in. Below is someone's attempt to work out the formula (which is then ignored and the AFL give whatever compo they want).

The AFL's secret formula for free agency compensation

Length of contract is largely irrelevant, but a one-year age gap can make a big difference.

www.theage.com.au

Tarrant is the toss of the coin between Band 5 (pick 39) and nothing. Chol is Band 3 or 4 (29 or 37 I think) as a guess. But if both happen Richmond would get nothing.

Yeah you can't figure out any sort of formula, the afl make it up as they go. Where was a classic example when we lost Ellis to gc and another team lost a player (i can't remember who but it might have been geelong). The contracts and player ages were almost identical, but we got i think 2 bands lesser compensation. The afl just does what they want.

Of all the fixing people complain about with the afl, this one of if not the only one I think is legitimate.

 

[Sphynx]

Wish him all the best, even this year looked like a year too many.

Bit of a bizarre one from Richmond.

 

[Psicosis]

Don't like the Tarrant move, I don't see the point and 2 years to a 33 year old defender when we are going down the ladder can only stall us.

Any trade will depend on what the club thinks will happen with free agency. He is worth nothing in a trade, its a classic token pick just to get the player to the club as a goodwill gesture. There seems to be general consensus that ccj is worth more than 38 but less than 20, so perhaps 38 and Tarrant for ccj and maybe another token pick can get the job done.

By general consensus, you mean the general consensus among Richmond supporters, yeah?

He’s worth 38.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

If he goes to Richmond, will that mean North will look to Talia for a couple of years ???

 

[AnEmptyChair]

If he goes to Richmond, will that mean North will look to Talia for a couple of years ???

I hope not. McKay and Talia is an awful defensive fit. We really need to find a Lever/Aliir intercepting type to pair with McKay.

 

[buttox]

If he goes to Richmond, will that mean North will look to Talia for a couple of years ???

God i hope not.
We need someone younger than that imo

 

[giantroo]

 

[daird]

This sure has been a strange week for Richmond and North.

 

[buttox]

So the only question now is if it triggers compo.
and what said compo would be.

 

[fargothegreat]

Indeed. But I seriously doubt either happen. A straight swap is on the cards here. Maybe they sling us a future 4th out of goodwill.

I don't see how a straight swap would benefit us at all? The absolute minimum we would get from you CJ is pick 38 (emphasis on the minimum). Chol compo will be pick 45. 38 is better than 45.

Plus we're also looking at Mitch Wallis, which if we went for it would dilute any Chol compo even further.

 

[The 747]

Odd move from Richmond, he has been an excellent player but two years?

 

[Lore]

Yeah you can't figure out any sort of formula, the afl make it up as they go. Where was a classic example when we lost Ellis to gc and another team lost a player (i can't remember who but it might have been geelong). The contracts and player ages were almost identical, but we got i think 2 bands lesser compensation. The afl just does what they want.

Of all the fixing people complain about with the afl, this one of if not the only one I think is legitimate.

It's base contract + ASAs. Any trigger clause extensions or incentive payments aren't included in the formula.

We have a complete list of all the previous FAs and what compensation they got in this post:

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more

www.bigfooty.com

We have some of the reported contract values listed there as well, but it's hard to get exact information on their contracts since reports are sensationalised and data is not published. "Up to 1m a year" could be 950k with 550k as base salary, 150k in ASAs and 250k in other incentives, so formula would be based on 700k, not 1m.

Suma Magic also did a breakdown of the formula here;

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more

www.bigfooty.com

One could fall in the top 29% and get Band 3, another at top 51% and be Band 5, while in a minorly different scenario a player in the top 31% and another in the top 50% would both fall into Band 4.

 

[buttox]

I don't see how a straight swap would benefit us at all? The absolute minimum we would get from you CJ is pick 38 (emphasis on the minimum). Chol compo will be pick 45. 38 is better than 45.

Plus we're also looking at Mitch Wallis, which if we went for it would dilute any Chol compo even further.

There wont be a swap of any kind.
Tarrant is leaving as an UFA.

 

[fargothegreat]

Odd move from Richmond, he has been an excellent player but two years?

Geelong would have given him double that

 

[Northernsoul74]

I don't see how a straight swap would benefit us at all? The absolute minimum we would get from you CJ is pick 38 (emphasis on the minimum). Chol compo will be pick 45. 38 is better than 45.

Plus we're also looking at Mitch Wallis, which if we went for it would dilute any Chol compo even further.

First I’ve heard about Wallis. We will give him away and do the right thing by him.

 

[tigerwill]

Yeah you can't figure out any sort of formula, the afl make it up as they go. Where was a classic example when we lost Ellis to gc and another team lost a player (i can't remember who but it might have been geelong). The contracts and player ages were almost identical, but we got i think 2 bands lesser compensation. The afl just does what they want.

Of all the fixing people complain about with the afl, this one of if not the only one I think is legitimate.

I think it may have been Steven Motlop (26) going from Geelong to Port. Geelong got end of 1st round, pick 19.
Geelong gave that pick to GCS for G.Ablett jr Motlop’s deal $550k x 4 years

Steven Motlop draft compensation: Geelong gets first round pick, history of AFL free agency draft compensation

Compo confusion: Why Cats cashed in with Motlop

www.foxsports.com.au

Scott Lycett (26) 5 year $600k pa deal to port earned WCE an end of 1st round pick, pick 20

2018 draft order confirmed

The AFL has confirmed the final order for the NAB AFL Draft on November 22 and 23

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

B.Ellis (26) had a 5 year $600k pa deal to GCS Richmond got end of 2nd round pick 39.

'Very disappointed' Tigers query AFL over Ellis compensation

The AFL's compensation system for free agency has come under scrutiny, with Richmond requesting a review of their compensation pick for Brandon Ellis.

7news.com.au

AFL said it ”fell a bit short due to his age and contract details”
Just about exactly the same as Lycett and more $’s and longer than Motlop’s.
The make it up as you go AFL. Secret herbs and spices. Corruption at its finest.

 

[daird]

There wont be a swap of any kind.
Tarrant is leaving as a UFA.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out, I think there was a similar situation with Hartigan to the Hawks where they made it a trade for a late pick so Hawks compo wouldn’t be affected. Could see similar here if Tigs think Chol compo would be worth it.

 

[fargothegreat]

First I’ve heard about Wallis. We will give him away and do the right thing by him.

Yeah if that one happens could be a token trade.

Not sure how strong our interest is, but there is interest there.

 

[fargothegreat]

I think it may have been Steven Motlop (26) going from Geelong to Port. Geelong got end of 1st round, pick 19.
Geelong gave that pick to GCS for G.Ablett jr Motlop’s deal $550k x 4 years

Steven Motlop draft compensation: Geelong gets first round pick, history of AFL free agency draft compensation

Compo confusion: Why Cats cashed in with Motlop

www.foxsports.com.au

Scott Lycett (26) 5 year $600k pa deal to port earned WCE an end of 1st round pick, pick 20

2018 draft order confirmed

The AFL has confirmed the final order for the NAB AFL Draft on November 22 and 23

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

B.Ellis (26) had a 5 year $600k pa deal to GCS Richmond got end of 2nd round pick 39.

'Very disappointed' Tigers query AFL over Ellis compensation

The AFL's compensation system for free agency has come under scrutiny, with Richmond requesting a review of their compensation pick for Brandon Ellis.

7news.com.au

AFL said it ”fell a bit short due to his age and contract details”
Just about exactly the same as Lycett and more $’s and longer than Motlop’s.
The make it up as you go AFL. Secret herbs and spices. Corruption at its finest.

There needs to be an open and public formula that can't be tampered with by the AFL.

Either that or get rid of compo altogether. The current system is a joke.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Good grief. Thought he would stay a loyal Shinboner.

North did the right thing by only offering him a one year deal.

 

[buttox]

There needs to be an open and public formula that can't be tampered with by the AFL.

Either that or get rid of compo altogether. The current system is a joke.

Im not sure why teams in this situation cant know potential FA compo.
Make an informed decision.

 

[Lynchy04]

Pretty smart move from the Tigers considering this season the backline was decimated with a lot of inexperience down there and with the loss of CCJ and Chol who were essentially the only two back up Key Forward options it makes perfect sense in losing them that getting Tarrant in allows for Balta to play KF in the event that Lynch or Riewoltd get injured.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Carlton got no Compo for Waite due to his age, ditto Hawthorn for Clinton Young

Clinton Young

Age

38

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.8

5star

T

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

7.4

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

1.8

2star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.4

4star

, so I expect North will get zilch for Tarrant.