Traded Ryan Burton [traded with #15, #35 and future 4th for Wingard and future 3rd]

[manureid]

Those brown and gold types in here saying Chad has had 3 bad seasons... and in the next breath saying 'you obviously didnt watch Rioli play' really are not aware of the irony.

 

[Wargreymon90]

That silly statement confirms how stupid you are.

You are not one of the Cornes boys are you?

Considering he’s the most common name that pops up whenever the overrated thread is put up on the main board, I would say I’m not the only one.

Il leave it at that as I seem to have upset you.

 

[Apex36]

yep, with some hard work and good coaching hopefully he can eventually average half a goal less and 6 less touches a game

If he can equal Rioli’s impact by reducing those stats and working on other areas of his game, then he’ll have done well.

 

[KermitJagger]

Considering he’s the most common name that pops up whenever the overrated thread is put up on the main board, I would say I’m not the only one.

Il leave it at that as I seem to have upset you.

If the BigFooty consensus is that Cyril is overrated, I'm incredibly happy - the one thing I've learnt from spending time on this sideshow of a website it's that the average BigFooty punter knows less about Football than the average 70 year old SEN caller.

 

[Ambrosia]

Say what you want about Cyril, but if he didn't have so many hamstring troubles and need to literally re-learn the way he ran mid career he would be close to the consensus best small forward in the history of the AFL.

This is laughable hyperbole.

 

[DannyJ]

Cyril the best defensive small forward the game has ever seen.
Certainly the best small forward in the last 20 years.

And it's not close.

 

[KermitJagger]

This is laughable hyperbole.

Who's better? Who are the absolute stand outs? It's not like being the best midfielder of all time, there isn't as much competition.

At this point I'd say he's on par with Betts for different reasons. Milne for his goal kicking, but he wasn't an absolute stand out. Farmer, Matera were both very good. Daicos as well if you consider him a small forward but I'm not sure he fits the definition completely.

Out of all of those you'd probably say:

Daicos
Betts/Rioli
Milne
Farmer
Matera

Daicos, Betts and Rioli are all tied for the most AA nods with 3.

I don't think it's too much of a reach.

Edit: I think Wingard as a permanent small forward would take the mantle, but I'm not sure if he'll stay there - hopefully Clarko sees that maybe sometimes a champion small forward can just stay a champion small forward.

 

[Mitchell54]

Please note that this thread is about Burton and not Rioli.

 

[KermitJagger]

Please note that this thread is about Burton and not Rioli.

Unwritten rule of BigFooty: Eventually, every thread becomes about Rioli.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

wait... holy s**t... are Port fans seriously trying to make out like Chad Wingard, after a good start but then an ongoing patch of relative mediocrity; is better than 4 x Premiership player, 3 x AA, Norm Smith medalist Cyril Rioli?!!

 

[Longjohnmire]

Does Adelaide get games broadcast in or do they just read stats sheets up there? It’s actually a laugh trying to measure Rioli on a stat sheet. I’m the last person to stick up for Hawthorn too but Rioli had more magic than any other small forward that I’ve seen play. Easy. As a team focussed small forward id have him over any similar small forward type.

I think the burton trade will come back to bite the hawks.

 

[TazHawk15]

Does Adelaide get games broadcast in or do they just read stats sheets up there? It’s actually a laugh trying to measure Rioli on a stat sheet. I’m the last person to stick up for Hawthorn too but Rioli had more magic than any other small forward that I’ve seen play. Easy. As a team focussed small forward id have him over any similar small forward type.

I think the burton trade will come back to bite the hawks.

Lots of deals every season can come back and bite clubs on the arse.

 

[King_Tredrea]

wait... holy s**t... are Port fans seriously trying to make out like Chad Wingard, after a good start but then an ongoing patch of relative mediocrity; is better than 4 x Premiership player, 3 x AA, Norm Smith medalist Cyril Rioli?!!

wait... holy s**t... are Port fans seriously trying to make out like Chad Wingard, after a good start but then an ongoing patch of relative mediocrity; is better than 4 x Premiership player, 3 x AA, Norm Smith medalist Cyril Rioli?!!

Yes. I’m surprised this is even in question.

 

[Joao]

Since I like to be fuel, if you could promise me that Chad would have his finger fully removed I would take him over Cyril.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Im taking Chad over Rioli as well. It's not as cut and dry as some of you are making out.

 

[SherbertLemon]

I’d take Betts over both of them

 

[Ports2GetLukosius]

Rioli was a very, very good pressure forward no doubt, but Chad has all his tricks and “damage per possession” with much more consistency, far better ability in the air, and the capability to play through the midfield.

Hawthorn supporters seem to take it as a slight, but its not. Rioli played an important role and was very exciting at the same time, he was part of the most successful side of the last 20 years. There are just better players than him out there, thats it.

He hasn’t been as talented or as impactful as Wingard, though he was arguably better at winning premierships. All there is to it.

 

[Mitchell54]

Wingard = Good Player

Rioli = Good Player

Betts = Good Player

Burton and his trade to Port = Thread Purpose

 

[GUMBLETRON]

I’d take Betts over both of them

I'd take Breust over both of them. Rioli wasn't even the most damaging forward in his team, let alone the league.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

The dude has retired yet oppo fans still can't help talking about him in a thread completely unrelated to him.

Rent free!

 

[DemonZombie_001]

Ok there is a lot of non Ryan Burton chatter in this thread....

How good do you think Ryan Burton is going to be ? He just signed a 2 year deal then gone. I do notice he is from SA so I guess the trade will suit him in the long run.

With the "Chad" coming to Hawthorn do they feel they are within a premiership window ?

 

[Groin guru]

Cyril the best defensive small forward the game has ever seen.
Certainly the best small forward in the last 20 years.

And it's not close.

Nope.

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Well there you go. A North fan has just posted a Brent Harvey highlight reel in a thread about a tall flanker who had played 4 games when Boomer retired...

BigFooty, you have finally gone doolally.

 

[Joao]

Well there you go. A North fan has just posted a Brent Harvey highlight reel in a thread about a tall flanker who had played 4 games when Boomer retired...

BigFooty, you have finally gone doolally.

It is Groin Guru though and to be expected at this stage.

 

[bird_man]

Considering he’s the most common name that pops up whenever the overrated thread is put up on the main board, I would say I’m not the only one.

Il leave it at that as I seem to have upset you.

That's probably because the average fan is more interested on stats and super coach points than how much impact a player actually has on the game.