Yes, of course you are.And we’re a different side to round 2 bouncing back after a shock loss to Pies? Great logic.
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That's exactly my logic.
That's why I responded to the post that I responded to.
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Yes, of course you are.And we’re a different side to round 2 bouncing back after a shock loss to Pies? Great logic.
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Don't disagree. St Kilda have been really good.
I was just responding to the comment regarding the Freo win looking better each week. The Freo that played in R2 is a different Freo to the one that played last night.
I know.Port ESS WB and West Coast are all completely different teams the first few weeks too.
Saints had several very good players out that day -freo have been good all year- both teams are improving all the time. Saints win over there was very good.Don't disagree. St Kilda have been really good.
I was just responding to the comment regarding the Freo win looking better each week. The Freo that played in R2 is a different Freo to the one that played last night.
Not sure why you're replying to me? I didn't say the win wasn't good.Saints had several very good players out that day -freo have been good all year- both teams are improving all the time. Saints win over there was very good.
We were getting completely smashed in that second qtr in contested footy which makes it hard to get anything rightTheir ball movement in the first quarter against GWS was contender quality.
Seemed to get found out a bit by the end of the first quarter, to be fair.
But this could be the best Saints team we have seen in a decade imo.
I hope so, for the comp's sake. An up and about St Kilda adds something to the place.
TIL you have to be undefeated to not be considered a failure.
There's maybe 3 benchmark teams this season. But if you want to apply the "yeh but who have they beaten" argument, you could consider everyone as s**t.
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No one has declared success. the post is about 'no mans land'. Melbourne havent beaten anyone above 11th, Brisbane havent beaten anyone above 10th. The point is you can only beat who you play but you declare beating other teams with a +ve win/loss isn't enough. If this post was about being a premiership contender in 2022, then you make a valid point.It's not that we consider them as s**t, it's that we logically hold off before we start declaring success.
It's called being realistic. The season is designed to be as long as it is for a reason.
Lol get back to me at years end
I expect lions and dees to be the clear top 2
Then sydney
No one has declared success. the post is about 'no mans land'. Melbourne havent beaten anyone above 11th, Brisbane havent beaten anyone above 10th. The point is you can only beat who you play but you declare beating other teams with a +ve win/loss isn't enough. If this post was about being a premiership contender in 2022, then you make a valid point.
Our percentage after round 6 last year was 67% and sitting 16th, its now 131% and 3rd/4th, it's the right direction.
Next 4 games will tell us where St Kilda are at.St Kilda, on the other hand, are the opposite. It has to have the scalps on the board to justify a call that they've finally moved on from their underlying issues, and so far they have not had the required litmus test to justify that call. Logic shows it's too early when viewing the teams they've played.
Well we cant keep moving the goal posts, if using "recent" success (aka last year) the crows have beat 2nd and 5th from last year. Or saints beat lions and swans by 30 points each the last time they played, led geelong for pretty much 3 quarters to lose by 14, were ahead of port in the final quarter (all these games after the bye round last year). Just picking and choosing what applies and when from prior seasons is pretty irrelevant, hence saying you can only beat who you playI meant 'success' as in being completely out of their usual slippery slope for good.
Your point about Melbourne and Brisbane is moot in that no one is looking for reasons to see if they're out of a "dump" once and for all - we already know this is the case as they have a recent history of success to draw from. They are merely carrying on from that form until shock losses prove otherwise.
St Kilda, on the other hand, are the opposite. It has to have the scalps on the board to justify a call that they've finally moved on from their underlying issues, and so far they have not had the required litmus test to justify that call. Logic shows it's too early when viewing the teams they've played.
It might be no man’s land but at least it’s land. North are in the middle of the ocean in a leaking row boat and taking water fast.Lol get back to me at years end
I expect lions and dees to be the clear top 2
Then sydney
Don’t worry about north this thread is about saintsIt might be no man’s land but at least it’s land. North are in the middle of the ocean in a leaking row boat and taking water fast.
We are so fortunate to have David King posting on our forumFair criticism, I haven’t watched a saints game in years.
North Melbourne are invincible mate LoLWe were getting completely smashed in that second qtr in contested footy which makes it hard to get anything right
Well...... To be honest..I guess it could be worse, we could be Essendon!
Imagine losing to Freo at home by 50 points
Fair enough. Pity Hayes done his knee. Its a shame though.Wouldn’t have thought he had cult status, but he did come 3rd in the B&F last year, was top 10 in the Coleman two years prior and also had a season of 44 goals from just 17 games, so he can football a bit.
Please flog Port........please...watch the thread explode when we lose to port lol
How many dudes you know flow like this? Rock a show like this.
Not many, if any.
If Gresham could kick, he'd be in the top 5-10 players in the comp.