Banter The Adelaide Board Politics/COVID Thread Part 2 (WARNING NOT FOR THE FAINT-HEARTED)

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More good news for our favourite grifter

Appeals court says House can obtain Trump's taxes from the IRS

"(E)very President takes office knowing that he will be subject to the same laws as all other citizens upon leaving office. This is a feature of our democratic republic, not a bug," the opinion said.

edition.cnn.com

Be interesting to see how much he made from the Apprentice.

Hopefully he kicks it off again.

 

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Only in America. I think we can trust him.

Multiple sources have confirmed that magistrate Bruce Reinhart approved the FBI raid on former President Donald Trump’s estate of Mar-A-Lago.​

Who is Bruce Reinhart? Magistrate judge who issued Trump search warrant worked for Team Epstein

by WorldTribune Staff, August 9, 2022 The go-ahead for the unprecedented FBI raid on former President Donald Trump’s Florida residence was signed off on by a judge who, as an attorney, had re…

www.worldtribune.com

So you don't? Or you are just suggesting it wasn't that hard

Wow, that site is batshit crazy.

 

[fortunatecrow]

Only in America. I think we can trust him.

Multiple sources have confirmed that magistrate Bruce Reinhart approved the FBI raid on former President Donald Trump’s estate of Mar-A-Lago.​

Who is Bruce Reinhart? Magistrate judge who issued Trump search warrant worked for Team Epstein

by WorldTribune Staff, August 9, 2022 The go-ahead for the unprecedented FBI raid on former President Donald Trump’s Florida residence was signed off on by a judge who, as an attorney, had re…

www.worldtribune.com

"worked for team Epstein" undersells the issue. Apparently immediately before working for team Epstein, he was working for the Attorney-General on the prosecution of team Epstein.

If that's true, it is a little hard to think of him as someone with the judgement necessary to decide important issues.

You'd also say that a "Magistrate Judge for the Southern District of Florida" doesn't sound like a judge with the sort of seniority you would expect to be issuing search warrants against a former President. That said, it is looking like a spectacular backfire so if it truly was politically motivated you'd have to grade it as idiotic.

edit to add: interesting that the Court appears to have completely removed his profile from their website.

 

[Crow till I die]

"worked for team Epstein" undersells the issue. Apparently immediately before working for team Epstein, he was working for the Attorney-General on the prosecution of team Epstein.

If that's true, it is a little hard to think of him as someone with the judgement necessary to decide important issues.

You'd also say that a "Magistrate Judge for the Southern District of Florida" doesn't sound like a judge with the sort of seniority you would expect to be issuing search warrants against a former President. That said, it is looking like a spectacular backfire so if it truly was politically motivated you'd have to grade it as idiotic.

edit to add: interesting that the Court appears to have completely removed his profile from their website.

Its just helped cement Trumps 2024 re election platform. They have tried every dirty trick to get him and since the Jan 6th sham witch hunt was going nowhere as the public saw it for what it was and switched off with mid terms around the corner, this was a hail mary to try and 'find' a crime to somehow prevent him for running in 2024. What its done is galvanize the repubs now heading forward in terms of investigating all of this when they have the subpoena power.

 

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I could no way ever support Hilary Clinton.

But some elite level trolling , but the thread itself is hilarious with the back and forth.

 

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[fortunatecrow]

When you are being criticised by Andrew Cuomo you are in a world of pain!

"DOJ must immediately explain the reason for its raid & it must be more than a search for inconsequential archives or it will be viewed as a political tactic and undermine any future credible investigation & legitimacy of January 6 investigations."

 

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When you are being criticised by Andrew Cuomo you are in a world of pain!

"DOJ must immediately explain the reason for its raid & it must be more than a search for inconsequential archives or it will be viewed as a political tactic and undermine any future credible investigation & legitimacy of January 6 investigations."

Which part is the criticism?

 

[fortunatecrow]

Which part is the criticism?

Calling for an immediate explanation is an implicit criticism of the failure to explain...

 

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Calling for an immediate explanation is an implicit criticism of the failure to explain...

So has the FBI ever provided an explanation of a search warrant before or just after executing it.

I mean it would have to be a fairly regular thing for asking for an explanation to be deemed a criticism.

Or are they only made public once charges are laid (or not).

Perhaps as per his tweet, he's just wanting it out there as to not undermine the other investigations into Trump?

 

[Mr_Moogle]

So you don't? Or you are just suggesting it wasn't that hard

Wow, that site is batshit crazy.

World Tribune - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

 

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World Tribune - Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no

mediabiasfactcheck.com

In the absence of supporting information, create a conspiracy.

 

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So has the FBI ever provided an explanation of a search warrant before or just after executing it.

I mean it would have to be a fairly regular thing for asking for an explanation to be deemed a criticism.

Or are they only made public once charges are laid (or not).

Perhaps as per his tweet, he's just wanting it out there as to not undermine the other investigations into Trump?

I think there's a fair argument that if you are executing a search warrant on a former President you can expect a level of public interest a little above the normal, and might plan to communicate a little earlier and with a little more detail. Clearly that didn't occur to the FBI either.

 

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I think there's a fair argument that if you are executing a search warrant on a former President you can expect a level of public interest a little above the normal, and might plan to communicate a little earlier and with a little more detail. Clearly that didn't occur to the FBI either.

Again, I'm not disagreeing with what he said.

Just don't see it as a criticism.

You'd think those who organised the warrant agreed with your view of the seriousness, so would have made sure it was all by the book and to the highest level of scrutiny as well

 

[Crow till I die]

I think there's a fair argument that if you are executing a search warrant on a former President you can expect a level of public interest a little above the normal, and might plan to communicate a little earlier and with a little more detail. Clearly that didn't occur to the FBI either.

Not only is it a break of over 230 years of precedent Its the absolute double standards applied. No fbi raiding hillary clinton for deleted emails, fake steel dossier etc etc etc.no raiding on the bidens for their sons crimes as per the laptop the FBI have and have sat on.

The huge problem now for the democrats is that they have again shown their hand and what is supposedly a minor problem of records has had 50+ armed FBI agents decend on the former president and his lawyer was denied access and they have allegedly taken belongings without declaring why. Unless this is a slam dunk case, the optics heading into mid terms are of political persecutionof tgeir opponents and very uneven application of the law being applied. It will be even worse for them as its blatantly obvious whats happening.

 

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Just a hunch it will be like every other one that all turned out bogus. Its all to try to stop a possible candidate for the 2024 election running. After all they have put him through it would be poetic justice if he ran and won in 2024...he would be entitled to go after every one of them and he would. Popcorn time

Mate this may or may not stop trump from running in 2024, but the events that will happen in Feb 2023 will affect his chances of being re-elected,
The trial for a writer’s lawsuit claiming she was defamed by former President Trump when he denied raping her is set to begin Feb. 6 in federal court in New York. With DNA evidence,
And yes it is not a criminal case as the statute of limitations has expired, But it will affect his chance, Lot of female voters out there who would typically support Trump will change there minds.

Also, Trump still has to get past Georgia criminal investigation and the potential Criminal investigation arising from Jan 6.

And your hunch may not be right on this one as they had already found out that Classified information was found in the 15 boxes of White House records that were stored at Trump's Mar-a-lago residence back in Jan when the information was passed onto the Justice Department. looks Like the DOJ acted on the information,
So the question they are currently arguing is did Trump have the Authority to store these documents.

Trump and Biden will not be Running for President in 2024.

 

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PolitiFact - Comparing Hillary Clinton’s emails and Donald Trump’s boxes of files

Soon after FBI agents raided his Mar-a-Lago estate, former President Donald Trump posted a statement decrying the "

www.politifact.com

"Trump took properly marked hard copy classified documents from the White House, shipped them to Florida, and stored them in an unsecured location at his residence," Moss said.

The presence of classified information in Clinton’s emails was less obvious.

"The e-mails were never marked as classified because these were communications from unclassified government accounts," Moss said.

It's almost like their actions were different.

 

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Surprise, Surprise: The DOJ’s Hillary Clinton Investigation Has Been a Bust

After more than two years, an inquiry into the Clinton Foundation and Clinton's tenure at State is nearly done—and there's reportedly absolutely nothing to show for it.

www.google.com

Back in 2017, buoyed by President Donald Trump’s calls for investigations into “Crooked Hillary & the Dems,” the Justice Department launched an inquiry into Hillary Clinton

Imagine using your Presidential Power against your political foes

Trump fans really backed a loser didn't they.

Edit - just for the record

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/29/trump-investigations-litigation/

That's a lot of conspiracy.....

 

[Crow till I die]

I wonder when crooked Hilary will get the FBI armed raid treatment (rhetorical question as we know the answer - never as a different set of rules apply to the democrats)

Hillary Clinton deleted everything on her email server

Tens of thousands of messages are gone forever.

www.businessinsider.com

There are no longer any copies of tens of thousands of emails from Hillary Clinton's time as secretary of state.
In a statement released on Friday, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-South Carolina), the chairman of the House of Representatives committee dedicated to investigating the 2012 terrorist attack on the US diplomatic compound in Benghazi, claimed Clinton wiped the server that housed her emails "clean."

And people wonder why real crimes that are right in front of the FBI seem to get overlooked

2 tiered justice system

 

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Mate this may or may not stop trump from running in 2024, but the events that will happen in Feb 2023 will affect his chances of being re-elected,
The trial for a writer’s lawsuit claiming she was defamed by former President Trump when he denied raping her is set to begin Feb. 6 in federal court in New York. With DNA evidence,
And yes it is not a criminal case as the statute of limitations has expired, But it will affect his chance, Lot of female voters out there who would typically support Trump will change there minds.

Also, Trump still has to get past Georgia criminal investigation and the potential Criminal investigation arising from Jan 6.

And your hunch may not be right on this one as they had already found out that Classified information was found in the 15 boxes of White House records that were stored at Trump's Mar-a-lago residence back in Jan when the information was passed onto the Justice Department. looks Like the DOJ acted on the information,
So the question they are currently arguing is did Trump have the Authority to store these documents.

Trump and Biden will not be Running for President in 2024.

Trump has been in discussions for a while of documentation that needed to be returned. There is no way he didn't know this was coming.

This was just another stunt to rile up his base. He knows how easily they fall for it, so why not try again. It is just another money making opportunity for him.

 

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Why - Russia helped Hillary Clinton to try and defeat Trump in 2016 - fake dossier and FBI collusion. Trump warned Europe to not rely on Russian energy supplies and was laughed out of the room - I bet they are regretting that now. Trump forced Nato nations to up their defense spending. Biden was fine with a Russian incursion into Ukraine prior to the war.

Opinion | Hillary Clinton’s Russian Helpers

Durham uncovers evidence of Moscow’s attempts to influence the Steele dossier.

www.wsj.com

Special counsel John Durham’s indictments have turned any number of narratives on their heads, including the question of which 2016 presidential campaign was in bed with Russians. It wasn’t Donald Trump’s.

I mean, I know you guys don't know a lot that actually goes on but really

Mate you jumped the gun again
Suggest you start following what Paul Manafort recent said, And he can because he has been tried and convicted and Pardon making him immune from prosecution.
He just created a massive problem with Trump's recent filing of a federal lawsuit on Thursday against Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and 26 other people and entities that he claims conspired to undermine his 2016 campaign by falsely tying him to Russia.

 

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Ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort admits sharing info with Russians

Mr Manafort has previously denied sharing polling data with suspected Russian spy Konstantin Kilimnik

www.independent.co.uk

 

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