Recommitted Tom Mitchell [contracted and staying at Hawthorn]

[300Weatherby]

Are Essendon in contention? Geelong have SFA picks to trade this year.

That's why I'm saying it's a short list. A contender with at least one first-rounder up their sleeves who might want to add a player Mitchell's age. And if he wants to stay in Melbourne, the list gets shorter still.

Why would a contending club want him?

 

[300Weatherby]

We have three seconds actually. Two of them will be mid 20s. Not saying that would win if there was a chase but we don't have nothing.

2nd rounders would definitely be enough, but Geelong doesn't need him

 

[CatToTheFuture]

2nd rounders would definitely be enough, but Geelong doesn't need him

Yeah I think if Geelong brings in more mid his age they need to be positionally flexible.

Compare Guthrie and Titch in the sense that both could add similar output in 2022/23 and are around the same age. But then consider what happens next.

Say Holmes and Stephens step up and start demanding game time as inside mids. With Guthrie he moves off to the wing where he has been most of his career and is still there to step in if it gets hot. MOC or Stevens start to step up as wings? Then Guthrie moves to half back. A kid steps up there? Play him as a high half forward.

Consider then that Mitchell is either playing at the contest or watching it from the stands. If the tide turns against a side and they have to get games into kids then he'll push the kids out the same way he's pushed Worpel out.

 

[juss]

I'd hate if it was a straight swap for a first rounder.

Besides he doesn't seem like he fits our midfield, we are all about streaming forward in waves on the rebound at speed and getting the ball forward quickly at all costs and Mitchell doesn't strike me as that player.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Yeah I think if Geelong brings in more mid his age they need to be positionally flexible.

Compare Guthrie and Titch in the sense that both could add similar output in 2022/23 and are around the same age. But then consider what happens next.

Say Holmes and Stephens step up and start demanding game time as inside mids. With Guthrie he moves off to the wing where he has been most of his career and is still there to step in if it gets hot. MOC or Stevens start to step up as wings? Then Guthrie moves to half back. A kid steps up there? Play him as a high half forward.

Consider then that Mitchell is either playing at the contest or watching it from the stands. If the tide turns against a side and they have to get games into kids then he'll push the kids out the same way he's pushed Worpel out.

Trent cotchin won't be easy to replace Mitchell is about as good as option as any. Chimp to replace chimp.

If he does come to Richmond hopefully they play together for a couple years. Will be a sad day when Trent hangs up the boots.

Cripps might be the better fit but sounds like he is staying

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Are Essendon in contention? Geelong have SFA picks to trade this year.

That's why I'm saying it's a short list. A contender with at least one first-rounder up their sleeves who might want to add a player Mitchell's age. And if he wants to stay in Melbourne, the list gets shorter still.

Geelong have plenty of picks because we have 3 second rounders and a future 1st. That said mitchell isnt what we need we need to fill other positions (eg ruck) more than another inside mid.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Geelong have plenty of picks because we have 3 second rounders and a future 1st. That said mitchell isnt what we need we need to fill other positions (eg ruck) more than another inside mid.

Danger and selwood leaving sooner rather than later is a lot of contested possession on the way out

 

[tombomb]

Carlton traded a top 10 pick for a 26 (27 next month) year old Adam Saad.

Wouldn't put it past them trading a first for a player that would actually help their team.

No chance.

I thought the same about Carlton giving up a top 10 pick for Adam Saad.

 

[Olian]

They have two of the best ball winning midfielders in the competition.

Two midfielders isn’t a lot. Look at the rotations the top teams have.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

My team bias aside I think you're dreaming if you think Mitchell is worth anything less than a first rounder. There are some things he cant do and never has, but he will get you 30 touches in tight without blinking. His impact this year has been shite moreso due to having no one with talent to give the ball too.

 

[WillHayward]

and?

Just saying there probably aren't many clubs who would be interested.
Maybe a handful.

 

[300Weatherby]

My team bias aside I think you're dreaming if you think Mitchell is worth anything less than a first rounder. There are some things he cant do and never has, but he will get you 30 touches in tight without blinking. His impact this year has been sh*te moreso due to having no one with talent to give the ball too.

It's not going to happen.

First the Hawks have invested so heavily in him and O'Meara, both in picks and team development, to move him on now would be disastrous for the club

Second, he's not worth a first rounder. Not damaging enough.

 

[300Weatherby]

Just saying there probably aren't many clubs who would be interested.
Maybe a handful.

Ok, i understand, personally i don't think any club would give away a first rounder. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd, especially on the sort of coin the hawks are paying him.

 

[The 747]

Danger and selwood leaving sooner rather than later is a lot of contested possession on the way out

True but Dangerfield has missed most of this year and Selwood only plays true mid some of the time now. Most of that load is on Parfitt, Guthrie and Duncan

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

He's just about cooked by the look of it and his impact on the game has never been massive anyway. Probably worth a second rounder. I could see Carlton selling the farm and coughin up a top 10 pick though...

 

[CarltonBlooz]

My team bias aside I think you're dreaming if you think Mitchell is worth anything less than a first rounder. There are some things he cant do and never has, but he will get you 30 touches in tight without blinking. His impact this year has been sh*te moreso due to having no one with talent to give the ball too.

My football memory bank is a bit hazy, but would you say he's been the same player after the broken leg?

As you don't get a Brownlow from spudding it up, seemed like he was on the edge of the precipice of being a A+++ but that killed him.

I would be shocked if the Hawks let him go for anything less than a first rounder.

 

[tigs2010]

Cripps might be the better fit but sounds like he is staying

Masochist or no other suitors?

A fit Cripps is a great fit. The current one meh

 

[Sweet Jesus]

We have three seconds actually. Two of them will be mid 20s. Not saying that would win if there was a chase but we don't have nothing.

We're talking about first-rounders. So yeah, SFA.

Geelong have plenty of picks because we have 3 second rounders and a future 1st. That said mitchell isnt what we need we need to fill other positions (eg ruck) more than another inside mid.

I guess the future first would be relevant.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Why would a contending club want him?

Because he's still a very fine high-volume inside midfielder.

 

[300Weatherby]

Because he's still a very fine high-volume inside midfielder.

Nah, he's really not

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Nah, he's really not

Nonsense.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

My team bias aside I think you're dreaming if you think Mitchell is worth anything less than a first rounder. There are some things he cant do and never has, but he will get you 30 touches in tight without blinking. His impact this year has been sh*te moreso due to having no one with talent to give the ball too.

He is worth that to Hawthorn but no one else. It’s the same story with Cripps at Carlton.

You‘ll need to pay a fair chunk of his salary for the trade to be worth it for all parties.

 

[The 747]

We're talking about first-rounders. So yeah, SFA.

Yeah because a late first is nothing like two early seconds. Onya.

 

[300Weatherby]

Nonsense.

I agree, your opinion is nonsense. Around the ground he's a liability, he gets exposed badly. I highly doubt any club would agree to take him on now, especially with what the hawks are paying him and if they want a first rounder. He's just not worth it

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Yeah because a late first is nothing like two early seconds. Onya.

There's certainly a material difference if a rebuilding club wants to add another pick in the teens.

As it stands, those two second-rounders, if offered to Hawthorn, would be their fourth and fifth picks at the end of this season. That doesn't represent the kind of improved draft hand that would make it worth trading out Mitchell.