Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood?

[Wosh]

Mainly here so we can enjoy the LOLs afterwards at the end of 2023, but also an interesting discussion point.

I’m in genuine two minds and can’t call it, but who do you see finishing higher in 2023?

Who is positioned better from a list/team perspective?

Let the games begin…

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[Worm4]

Seniors VFL/AFL (16) 1902 1903 1910 1917 1919 1927 1928 1929 1930 1935 1936 1953 1958 1990 2010 2023 VFA/VFL (1) 1896 Reserves VFL/AFL Reserves (7) 1919 1920 1922 1925 1940 1965 1976 VFLW (1) 2019

But it's you blokes who keep bringing up the past and it's lack of relevance, There are dynasties coming out of our ass if you want to go back and check. If you want to bring up the past 20 odd years, then we have won 2 more flags than you and while you guys are all sipping coffee at the races every september

Its collingwood supporters that bring up the past 20 years to validate success.
And what is wrong with "sipping coffee at the races in September " . It's fantastic particularly at the picnics .
Sure as hell beats scrambling in the specials bin at dimmies looking for collingwood merch

 

[Reg Grundy35]

Doesn't matter how you want to look at it, that round 20 win stays in the record books forever.

And in the hearts of every Bagger. Its their Aldi version of the last game of 2022. Thats fair. Just not quite as much hanging on it maybe

 

[Reg Grundy35]

1958, 1990, 2010 and 2023. With regards to the modern era, Collingwood wouldn't know a premiership dynasty even if it smacked them on the face.

What about a Spoon dynasty? what are they like?

 

[manicpie]

Its collingwood supporters that bring up the past 20 years to validate success.
And what is wrong with "sipping coffee at the races in September " . It's fantastic particularly at the picnics .
Sure as hell beats scrambling in the specials bin at dimmies looking for collingwood merch

You had to go and worm your way in didn't you

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

What about a Spoon dynasty? what are they like?

1915, 1938, 1970, 1979 and 1981.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Seniors VFL/AFL (16) 1902 1903 1910 1917 1919 1927 1928 1929 1930 1935 1936 1953 1958 1990 2010 2023 VFA/VFL (1) 1896 Reserves VFL/AFL Reserves (7) 1919 1920 1922 1925 1940 1965 1976 VFLW (1) 2019

But it's you blokes who keep bringing up the past and it's lack of relevance, There are dynasties coming out of our ass if you want to go back and check. If you want to bring up the past 20 odd years, then we have won 2 more flags than you and while you guys are all sipping coffee at the races every september

I said in the modern era. You were a flag winning machine in the 20's and 30's no doubt.

 

[manicpie]

I have never gone through the dimmies bin in search of collingwood merch but I have been at the pub and picked up anther blokes teeth off the floor that were gold. Just gave them a rinse and they fit like a glove

 

[Reg Grundy35]

1915, 1938, 1970, 1979 and 1981.

Nice try Carlton, 5, 2002 , 2005 , 2006 , 2015 , 2018. The back to back was a nice touch!

 

[Arr0w]

I have never gone through the dimmies bin in search of collingwood merch but I have been at the pub and picked up anther blokes teeth off the floor that were gold. Just gave them a rinse and they fit like a glove

So you have them !!

 

[manicpie]

So you have them !!

I supa glued the pricks in, I'm a Collingwood supporter

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Nice try Carlton, 5, 2002 , 2005 , 2006 , 2015 , 2018. The back to back was a nice touch!

I hope you enjoyed them. It'll be a long time before a wooden spoon comes to Princes Park again.

 

[manicpie]

We should really move on from the past. Last year I predicted that we both play off in the GF. This year I'm not as confident but let's be honest, we are both in it right up to our eyeballs

 

[Arr0w]

I supa glued the pricks in, I'm a Collingwood supporter

I bet you knocked out a couple of the front teeth too, to make it feel more realistic

 

[manicpie]

I bet you knocked out a couple of the front teeth too, to make it feel more realistic

That battle went down to the line, the bugger broke my ribs and nose but I got his teeth

 

[doppleganger]

1958, 1990, 2010 and 2023. With regards to the modern era, Collingwood wouldn't know a premiership dynasty even if it smacked them on the face.

What the feck does 1958 have to do with the modern era?

A nice clean starting point for the modern era is the start of the 21st century.

That was when most of the growing pains and transition from suburban VFL football to the expanded AFL comp was completed. 16 teams were established and Docklands was built.

We are into our 24th season of the modern era.

The strongest teams have been - Geelong and Hawthorn and then Brisbane. Sydney and Collingwood have played in most GFs (6) and both have a 2-4 record.

The worst team has been Carlton and it aint even close, 5 wooden spoons and yet to have a top4 finish after H&A let alone even lool like making a GF.

Yet the Baggers keep wanting everyone to just focus on the 1970/80s when they used to be good. Just like Melbourne were good in the 1950/60s, neither have any relevance to the modern era.

At least Melbourne have lifted themselves off the bottom and won a flag in the modern era.

 

[Robertio]

What the feck does 1958 have to do with the modern era?

A nice clean starting point for the modern era is the start of the 21st century.

That was when most of the growing pains and transition from suburban VFL football to the expanded AFL comp was completed. 16 teams were established and Docklands was built.

We are into our 24th season of the modern era.

The strongest teams have been - Geelong and Hawthorn and then Brisbane. Sydney and Collingwood have played in most GFs (6) and both have a 2-4 record.

The worst team has been Carlton and it aint even close, 5 wooden spoons and yet to have a top4 finish after H&A let alone even lool like making a GF.

Yet the Baggers keep wanting everyone to just focus on the 1970/80s when they used to be good. Just like Melbourne were good in the 1950/60s, neither have any relevance to the modern era.

At least Melbourne have lifted themselves off the bottom and won a flag in the modern era.

Noticed you have done it again, the ladder isn't finalized to after the finals not home and away, if things went your way there's no need for finals.

 

[Drought Break]

Its collingwood supporters that bring up the past 20 years to validate success.
And what is wrong with "sipping coffee at the races in September " . It's fantastic particularly at the picnics .
Sure as hell beats scrambling in the specials bin at dimmies looking for collingwood merch

Thought you were checking out? Said that a few times over last couple of days

 

[Aphrodite]

New Carringbush merch on sale ...


BTW congrats on the new sponsors

 

[doppleganger]

Noticed you have done it again, the ladder isn't finalized to after the finals not home and away, if things went your way there's no need for finals.

Go and check the historic ladders, they are based on the completion of H&A.

The premise of the ladder is to determine which teams make finals and which path they take during finals...are you in a Elimination Final or Qualifying etc.

At the completion of finals you end up with a premier and runner up.

The premier is not always the same as the minor premier (1st on the ladder).

Carlton have never finished top4 on the ladder in the 21st century.

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Scary news for the rest of the comp

The Champion Data stats that suggest Magpies might be even better in 2024

“They actually might be better than last year…”

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[Aphrodite]

Champion Data

 

[Robertio]

Go and check the historic ladders, they are based on the completion of H&A.

The premise of the ladder is to determine which teams make finals and which path they take during finals...are you in a Elimination Final or Qualifying etc.

At the completion of finals you end up with a premier and runner up.

The premier is not always the same as the minor premier (1st on the ladder).

Carlton have never finished top4 on the ladder in the 21st century.

Why did we get pick 16 in the draft which equates to 3rd spot?

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Champion Data

Knocking Champion Data now?

Is there any news organisation or statistical analysis that you actually trust or is it all just "the vibe"?

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[manicpie]

Knocking Champion Data now?

Is there any news organisation or statistical analysis that you actually trust or is it all just "the vibe"?

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Yes there is, it's called the Carlton brown paper bag book and it was written by someone who goes by the name of " Pigs ass". Visy have a statistical database as well

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Yes there is, it's called the Carlton brown paper bag book and it was written by someone who goes by the name of " Pigs ass". Visy have a statistical database as well

Imagine dissing Champion Data, why bother following footy at all

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