So you're saying the idea that four clubs could be bigger in support and identity than all the others doesn't exist? K bro...
No but any support classification that doesn't include Adelaide and West Coast is meaningless.
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So you're saying the idea that four clubs could be bigger in support and identity than all the others doesn't exist? K bro...
The poll options are hilarious.
Melbourne?
Really? That's a classic.
Carlton are going through their painful journey the same as Richmond. Carlton are still a big club, but like Richmond of the 90s and 00s there have been too many restarts and false hopes for people to jump on boardAs much as it pains me to say I have to agree based purely on membership levels.
I still think the games between the old 'Big 4' still average very large crowds and have stood the test of time.
There have been shorter term rivalries that draw the crowds and we need to see if they stand up over 20-30 years.
I'd still be confident to say that in 2040 a Carlton v Richmond, Collingwood or Essendon would draw a big crowd at the G'.
You have to wonder how much money the AFL leaves on the table in the interests of competition evenness.
A season with the top four of Essendon, Richmond, Collingwood and Carlton would rake in millions.
People say the AFL is money hungry, but let’s be honest, if they really were they’d just let the competition play out like that.
Big 4 would be Collingwood, Richmond, Adelaide, WCE - maybe can throw Freo in these days
Even Essendon can't compete although their growth has been stunted by the move to Docklands.
Big Five
Adelaide
Collingwood
Essendon
Richmond
West Coast
That's why they're in the poll !No but any support classification that doesn't include Adelaide and West Coast is meaningless.
Why?No but any support classification that doesn't include Adelaide and West Coast is meaningless.
Essendon is getting "wind assisted" help from AFL HQ after the drugs disgrace. How anyone doesn't see through the Gerballs like Public Relations push for Essendon is a nuff nuff.
Does the AFL seriously think people are that stupid?
Which brings me to one thing, is the AFL too focused on PR Spin and not enough on actually providing a good product (i.e. real footy) these days?
Just a historical Melbourne thing.
North, Hawthorn and Footscray were 1925 expansion clubs.
Geelong were a country club.
Fitzroy always struggled with support because they were sandwiched geographically by bigger clubs.
St Kilda and South Melbourne hugely unsuccessful on field.
Melbourne had a small, apathetic supporter base from outside the large working class and no geographic suburban area.
Essendon, Collingwood, Carlton and Richmond were the bigger clubs, hence the big 4. That's all it is.
Swans “hugely unsuccessful on field”? They have 10 Premierships in their history - 8 if you don’t count the modern era. St Kilda have one. So its a bit unfair to be lumping them both in the same boat.
It pains me to say Carlton are still big 4.
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Long live Carlton.....
So you're saying the idea that four clubs could be bigger in support and identity than all the others doesn't exist? K bro...