No Oppo Supporters General AFL and other clubs discussion thread. **Opposition fans not welcome** Part 7

[Mitchell Madness]

Pies given Daicos the seagull role so he gets all the useless possessions that will have all the media nuffies creaming their jocks and falling over themselves to hand him the rising star award..

Ironically, the possession winner got the bog and they all cried

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Longmuir

True, has to be him then Macrae clearly ahead of everyone else at this stage.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Pies given Daicos the seagull role so he gets all the useless possessions that will have all the media nuffies creaming their jocks and falling over themselves to hand him the rising star award..

He's a star and will walk the award in now. Hope the Duke gets his due recognition, which I think he will now some talking heads are on the bandwagon.

 

[TylerDurden]

He's a star and will walk the award in now. Hope the Duke gets his due recognition, which I think he will now some talking heads are on the bandwagon.

Agree. He's a star. Freak talent.

 

[TazHawk15]

I would not be that upset if Daicos wins the RS, but nowhere near as happy as I am that Duke is a Hawk.

 

[grumbleguts]

I would not be that upset if Daicos wins the RS, but nowhere near as happy as I am that Duke is a Hawk.

Imagine if Norf had've picked Daicos with pick one. Just to force Collingwood to spend more on taking him. They could have always told JHF to pull his head in, he was their second choice.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I missed it this afternoon so just watched the replay now.
They are good to watch Collingwood and I enjoyed seeing them win.
They play a really entertaining brand of footy.

And Cox had a ripper. Well done to him too because he is almost universally maligned.

Hats off to Cox for his game.

He’s universally panned as you say, but he’s got the tools to be a weapon. Richmond supporters know it all too well.

Special credit to him for getting back from his eye troubles. I heard from him first hand a couple years ago at a GF event of the pain he went through, and the days of wondering if he was going to lose his sight. The goggles might get laughed at, but he’s had to go through a lot of s**t times and worry to be out there wearing them.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I would not be that upset if Daicos wins the RS, but nowhere near as happy as I am that Duke is a Hawk.

They simply won’t go passed Daicos from here unless he falls in a deep hole.

As good as our boys been they will not overlook a famous father son, who went top 5, averaging 30 disposals a game. Even as a loose hbf.

 

[theiaofseed]

For me it's easy to see who "should" win

 

[Flukey!]

They simply won’t go passed Daicos from here unless he falls in a deep hole.

As good as our boys been they will not overlook a famous father son, who went top 5, averaging 30 disposals a game. Even as a loose hbf.

Yep.
And while he may be positioned "behind the ball" which works for his possie count, he shows so much composure for a young man.
He is a very good player already.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

For me it's easy to see who "should" win

Agreed, but it’s best to let it go.

Burton had a better season than the crab too, but the Essendon fanboys in the media had done their job at the time of the vote taking.

Interestingly this year the HFC have been quite obvious about their push for recognition of Newk. It’s a welcome change, even if it doesn’t work out for him.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Yep.
And while he may be positioned "behind the ball" which works for his possie count, he shows so much composure for a young man.
He is a very good player already.

He has been composed, that same composure is being shown by newcombe though.

It's bloody frustrating, we spent years praise hodge, only to be told he was a rung below due to playing half back.
Now we are being told that a half back is better than a midfielder who has been getting similar numbers

 

[TheFourPillars]

Daicos is the clear favourite and he will get it and deservedly so will be a great player for Collingwood for years to come

 

[KermitJagger]

There were a lot of people dismissing Daicos at the start of the year, particularly in comparison to JHF who was the second coming of Jesus. I always thought he was Pick 1 because it's very difficult to teach that level of production, in comparison to JHF who had star level impact but was inconsistent across games.

Even if I wasn't a critic before his debut, I did have some questions on his impact after his first few games and compared him to Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

. Have to admit I went extremely early. Has adjusted to the speed of the game quicker than any player I've seen since Cyril, or maybe Rowell (if he'd played more games before his injury).

 

[theiaofseed]

Daicos is the clear favourite and he will get it and deservedly so will be a great player for Collingwood for years to come

He's a great player and will be fantastic, the award isn;t who will be better but who is better currently. Daicos hasn't been better than Newcombe and the coaches votes agree

 

[burner1]

A couple of weeks ago Jai was ahead but daicos has had a few really good games. We shouldn’t care too much about rising star - we have a beauty in Newcombe. Even more so given he was MSD.

 

[burner1]

I do find it interesting that Mitchell and Mccrae have their sides playing very attacking and watchable footy. Yet both were assistants to Clarko last year when we played at times a defensive crap style (plus Bolton also at pies).

 

[StillAtLarge]

They simply won’t go passed Daicos from here unless he falls in a deep hole.

As good as our boys been they will not overlook a famous father son, who went top 5, averaging 30 disposals a game. Even as a loose hbf.

I dunno, there's been a lot of media types pumping up De Koning's tires. Long season, 4 or 5 well in contention

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[deanc]

I think Mitchell has coached every bit as good as anyone this year imo.

I considered our list bottom 4 at the start of the year he has done very well.

Concur, with a few exceptions the boys have been competitive and worried most teams thus far this season and list challenges aside a few losses have been due to Mitchell's risk/reward bold game style resulting in costly turnovers...

 

[KermitJagger]

Age as at 31st of December 2022
Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

= Highest rated 23 year old,
Jai Newcombe = 5th highest rated 21 year old

Positional ratings (min 8 games)
James Sicily

6

James Sicily

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

= Highest rated key defender
Mitch Lewis = 3rd highest rated key forward
Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

24

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

= Highest rated general fwd
Luke Breust

22

Luke Breust

Age

33

Ht

182cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

4.8

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

1.8

5star

= 5th highest rated general fwd
Harry Morrison

1

Harry Morrison

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.9

3star

D

13.4

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.6

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.6

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

18.4

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.2

4star

CL

2.0

4star

= 5th highest rated wing

 

[Yardie]

Is there a more dis-likeable coach in the AFL?

Sooooooo......he doesn't want to do away with the policy, just the mental health loophole that allows no further strikes

That actually sounds reasonable

 

[IdiotBox]

For me it's easy to see who "should" win

I don't know Jai's stats intimately so which column is his? Assume the other is the Daicos kiddie?

 

[theiaofseed]

I don't know Jai's stats intimately so which column is his? Assume the other is the Daicos kiddie?

Daicos on the left, Jai on the right

 

[killerspud]

I had to cut a news story about sad Peruvian soccer fans, haven't seen so many sad people in red and white since the 2014 AFL Grand final