Opinion Sack Hinkley 10 - UnTENable

[johnnysix]

The current "leaders" have reduced the club to an homage to a bunch of individuals. The Port Adelaide of old was always bigger than any one individual. The stories about how Hinkley and Boak saved the club are a complete slap in the face to 150+ years of history.

 

[dirty2]

Imagine if Boak had decided to * off to Geelong. You know what draft pick we would have received for him? Due to GWS compromising the draft, we would have got Pick 16 + change.

With Pick 16, we don’t make finals in 2013/2014, Robbie Gray probably leaves for Victoria for a chance to play finals and we are up s**t creek, becoming nothing more than a perpetual revolving door where we don’t have enough talent to challenge for a flag but not having the market to make us being successful a priority for the AFL (ala Brisbane). Any move to AO wouldn’t have made a difference without having a side that made the experience a positive one.

So yeah, Hinkley is right when he says that Boak sort of saved the club.

In that alternate universe Hinkley gets sacked in 2015

 

[JUSTWORK]

Do we recon the club begged the AFL for Hinkley 250th to be an away game ?
Imagine announcing "congratulations on coaching 250" to mass boos from the home crowd.

 

[blink185]

The current "leaders" have reduced the club to an homage to a bunch of individuals. The Port Adelaide of old was always bigger than any one individual. The stories about how Hinkley and Boak saved the club are a complete slap in the face to 150+ years of history.

Cue the article ahead of Boak’s 350th from everyone’s favourite puff piece scrivener….Rucci.

He will regale us all with the story of Geelong’s attempted raid and Boak’s rejection of their overtures and remind us if it weren’t for he and Ken, Port would still be the “turd in the U bend waiting to be flushed”.

 

[Pappagallo]

So you're saying we would have ended up finishing near the bottom in 2014 and picked up Christian Petracca? As well as finally having an evidence base to get a better coach in not long after?

Bottoming out is the pathway to most flags. Few teams make it by just treading water in mediocrity before having a lucky season where everything goes perfectly.

Also if we weren’t paying Boak and Gray we would’ve had plenty of cap space to attract alternatives, further helped by the advent of free agency.

I’m not shitting on either player, they’ve both been great servants of the club. But to suggest that we would’ve been completely doomed without them is nonsense.

Crisis and opportunity and all that.

 

[longdonkey]

Imagine if Boak had decided to * off to Geelong. You know what draft pick we would have received for him? Due to GWS compromising the draft, we would have got Pick 16 + change.

With Pick 16, we don’t make finals in 2013/2014, Robbie Gray probably leaves for Victoria for a chance to play finals and we are up s**t creek, becoming nothing more than a perpetual revolving door where we don’t have enough talent to challenge for a flag but not having the market to make us being successful a priority for the AFL (ala Brisbane). Any move to AO wouldn’t have made a difference without having a side that made the experience a positive one.

So yeah, Hinkley is right when he says that Boak sort of saved the club.

Or the alternative we bottom out with Hinkley get a priority pick and Pick 1 in about 2015/6, get a proper coach and win a premiership in 2019.

 

[Ilias M]

From 2015, Nothing I see has changed only face on the footy field

 

[rogerjames]

Incredible to think a head coach of a sports team can go to an interview and say "I just ignore the fans" and thats accepted lol

Most of us think he's an idiot & he knows this so it's a self-preservation thing

 

[PowerLil]

The idiot actually thinks he saved the club as opposed to Travis "almost" saving it.

 

[Windy Cindy]

The idiot actually thinks he saved the club as opposed to Travis "almost" saving it.

Even worse Koch and the board think so as well

 

[Peninsula Boy]

we were so scared of losing boak. the club has told that story so many times, they've made it sound so scary, the famous and great "geelong delegation" coming down and wooing travis, how on earth did we defeat "the greatest team of all" in a negotiation? in fact i bet this is the main story they will tell building up to 350 lol. they could get actors to reenact the conversation and play it at half time on the big screen. fear has dictated too much for the club for too long

This is the thing. If Boak left, we would have been well compensated.

I mean, a player who hits free agency can run wherever they like and you still compensated. I don't think any other league in the world has that mechanism.

 

[sobrave]

From 2015, Nothing I see has changed only face on the footy field
View attachment 1933342

Was that before Goochi was on the payroll?

 

[PowerLil]

Was that before Goochi was on the payroll?

Yes it was. Rucci's phone would have been ringing non stop after that article - caller ID "Ken Hinkley".

 

[TeeKray]

The idiot actually thinks he saved the club as opposed to Travis "almost" saving it.

I hadn't actually thought of that angle.

If Travis almost saved the club then Hinkley's belief is that the club was almost going to fold at the end of 2012. Guess who was hired in the significant role of head coach at the end of 2012? Hinkley. So by logical extension, he must think he's a big part of saving the club too.

The gaslighting is just wild.

 

[Pappagallo]

I hadn't actually thought of that angle.

If Travis almost saved the club then Hinkley's belief is that the club was almost going to fold at the end of 2012. Guess who was hired in the significant role of head coach at the end of 2012? Hinkley. So by logical extension, he must think he's a big part of saving the club too.

The gaslighting is just wild.

Remember the 30,000 people who crammed into a pre-development Adelaide Oval in 2011 to watch the worst Port team in over 100 years fight tooth and nail to avoid the spoon? If anyone saved Port it’s them, along with the admin of the time who had the balls to take action and fix what was broken.

Hinkley is just a guy taking credit for opening the jar after someone else had already loosened the lid.

 

[TeeKray]

Remember the 30,000 people who crammed into a pre-development Adelaide Oval in 2011 to watch the worst Port team in over 100 years fight tooth and nail to avoid the spoon? If anyone saved Port it’s them, along with the admin of the time who had the balls to take action and fix what was broken.

Hinkley is just a guy taking credit for opening the jar after someone else had already loosened the lid.

Absolutely but even this is in some way validating the bogus suggestion that there was an existential crisis.

Back in those days, there was always some club on the bottom of the ladder who couldn't draw a crowd and whose finances were threatened. It's different these days but back then it was just our turn to be a struggling club on and off the field. Even a club like freaking Carlton were that in the '00s. Every club who had previously been that had turned things around and we would've been no different irrespective of 2012 appointments.

 

[Pappagallo]

Absolutely but even this is in some way validating the bogus suggestion that there was an existential crisis.

Back in those days, there was always some club on the bottom of the ladder who couldn't draw a crowd and whose finances were threatened. It's different these days but back then it was just our turn to be a struggling club on and off the field. Even a club like freaking Carlton were that in the '00s. Every club who had previously been that had turned things around and we would've been no different irrespective of 2012 appointments.

As far as the on field stuff goes I agree and that of course flows into the off field troubles to some extent. But the model we were operating under was fundamentally unsustainable and playing out of the Boondocks Bowl wasn’t helping either so I wouldn’t go as far to say that we weren’t in any existential trouble at all. Change was needed and it was brought, just not by those who’ve been so very keen to take the credit for it.

 

[TeeKray]

As far as the on field stuff goes I agree and that of course flows into the off field troubles to some extent. But the model we were operating under was fundamentally unsustainable and playing out of the Boondocks Bowl wasn’t helping either so I wouldn’t go as far to say that we weren’t in any existential trouble at all. Change was needed and it was brought, just not by those who’ve been so very keen to take the credit for it.

There are 2 clubs in this competition who struggle to draw 5 figure crowds who exist for the sole purpose of market share and creating a game every weekend in their state. We would've existed no matter what.

 

[Contested Marx]

If North Melbourne can survive the calls for mergers, relocations north and south then I see no reason why Port wouldn't have

 

[Pappagallo]

There are 2 clubs in this competition who struggle to draw 5 figure crowds who exist for the sole purpose of market share and creating a game every weekend in their state. We would've existed no matter what.

And they exist is growth markets that had already consumed two foundation clubs of the VFL. If SA is even on the list of priorities at AFL House it would without doubt be stone motherless last so I don’t believe for a second that they would’ve supported us in perpetuity.

 

[tribey]

There are 2 clubs in this competition who struggle to draw 5 figure crowds who exist for the sole purpose of market share and creating a game every weekend in their state. We would've existed no matter what.

I have no doubt the knuckleheads in charge would’ve genuinely considered stripping the license and giving it to a new composite concern, a la Adelaide City being replaced by Adelaide United in the old NSL.

We had Ken Cunningham saying awarding the license to Port in the first place was mistake.

We had Graham Cornes gleefully shipping us and his sons off to Tasmania.

We had Steven Trigg saying the club has brought the game into disrepute.

We had Rob Lucas announcing that Mark Haysman would be knifed and replaced by Keith Thomas months before it happened.

We had the SANFL demanding we spend the Debt Demolition million and cut even deeper with austerity measures before having their forensic accountant go through the place with a dose of salts (and giving the Duncanson Administration a thumbs up).

We would’ve existed, but back in the SANFL with the other legacy poors.

 

[Pappagallo]

If North Melbourne can survive the calls for mergers, relocations north and south then I see no reason why Port wouldn't have

They’ve done well to get this far but I honestly don’t think they’ll make it in the end.

 

[PatientMental]

Funnily enough.

Rucci still believes we would've folded if not for ken and travis.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

We have to remember that Port Adelaide is the only club to actually bottom out in the AFL. No other team has ever finished as low as... checks notes... second last. Ever.

 

[TeeKray]

I have no doubt the knuckleheads in charge would’ve genuinely considered stripping the license and giving it to a new composite concern, a la Adelaide City being replaced by Adelaide United in the old NSL.

We had Ken Cunningham saying awarding the license to Port in the first place was mistake.

We had Graham Cornes gleefully shipping us and his sons off to Tasmania.

We had Steven Trigg saying the club has brought the game into disrepute.

We had Rob Lucas announcing that Mark Haysman would be knifed and replaced by Keith Thomas months before it happened.

We had the SANFL demanding we spend the Debt Demolition million and cut even deeper with austerity measures before having their forensic accountant go through the place with a dose of salts (and giving the Duncanson Administration a thumbs up).

We would’ve existed, but back in the SANFL with the other legacy poors.

None of these pissant losers you mentioned would've had the ultimate say. It's the AFL's competition and they make the rules. There was no way known Port were ever being replaced by some random composite team starting from scratch - this discussion taking place literally 4-5 years after we attracted a crowd of 44k to a home prelim to qualify for our second grand final in four years. To put it bluntly, the whole discussion is a bit 'only in SA'.