Preview 2023 Rd 16 - Carlton v Hawthorn Sunday 2nd July - 1:10PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in ...





IN: Ed Curnow, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

OUT: Matthew Cottrell (suspension), Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

27

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

(knee soreness), Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

AFL team news: Dual additions for Blues

Carlton has named two additions to its Round 16 team.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Brodie Kemp	Jacob Weitering	Jordan Boyd
Half-backs:	Nic Newman	Mitch McGovern	Adam Saad
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Sam Walsh
Half-forwards:	Jack Silvagni	Charlie Curnow	Jack Martin
Forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Harry McKay	David Cuningham
Followers:	Tom De Koning	Adam Cerra	Sam Docherty
Interchange:	Alex Cincotta	Ed Curnow	Matthew Kennedy
	Matthew Owies
Emergencies:	Jaxon Binns	George Hewett	Josh Honey
	Lewis Young

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Why would he bother when we won't play him and why would we bother for the same reason? I'm not sure Dow has any reason to feel indebted to us anymore.

Anyway, putting players on the rookie list is just about managing list numbers these days. Pay is the same as being on the main list. We have plenty of list spots so don't really have a need to do that.

Obviously has got another club lined up, we’ve royally ****ed him and ourselves over with overall trade movement…
Or actually keeping him…

 

[BlueTang]

Jonas, Port Adelaide’s captain can’t get back in the team due to selection integrity & look at how that teams going at the moment. Carlton has had poor selection integrity all year and look at where we are now. Doesn’t seem to matter what the guys do in the 2’s to put their best foot forward, Voss plays favourites.

To still play Ed when we are out of the finals race is just bizarre , 2 weeks ago Binns and Hewett were 1st and 2nd in the best for the VFL. Ed didn’t play, the last time he did play was 3 weeks ago against Essendon where he got 13 disposals and zero tackles. He doesn’t have enough point on the board anymore to deserve an automatic inclusion.

 

[haveago]

Dow is 10 years younger and a better player than Ed , WTF has he done to be left out again because he couldn't do
any more in his sub and VFL roles......... He is a young, quick and smart AFL level on baller that knows how to find the pill.

I am not saying he is the next C. Judd, just that he deserves to be selected. I don't think
anybody can argue with that. He is better than Ed.

It is very disappointing for the player and supporters IMO that he is being overlooked again.
He adds to the team , Ed does not

And then Hewy, last season he was bordering on being A grade and averaging bout 30 a game, I know this season has been
tough for him but whatever, he is also ahead of Ed.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

The selections for this game are beyond my comprehension. But watch us lose this game and all our weaknesses targeted by Sam Mitchell. He will show us exactly what Voss cannot do.

yep, the coach who's won them all of 4 games this year.

He's proven nothing so far.

8 last year, with a better list...

Really, Voss has done more....

That said, thoroughly agree on the bizarro selections!

 

[new_blue]

The Ed selection makes absolutely no sense, particularly given that both Hewett & Binns are named on the extended Bench.

If Hewett is fully fit then he should be in the 22. If he’s not fit then he shouldn’t even be named.

So basically the MC is rating Ed ahead of George which is ridiculous.

The Binns non selection is a whole other discussion.

 

[BlueJet]

Love that they are only picking Silvagni now as a replacement ruckman.
He must love it too.

He's getting a game when he probably doesn't deserve it, he should love it.
It's an opportunity, hopefully he can give us something.

 

[BlueJet]

We're shallow through midfield, the coaches don't rate Dow & with Hewett down on form, it makes sense why Ed gets games.
Hopefully the LM team can address this.

 

[macky99]

We're shallow through midfield, the coaches don't rate Dow & with Hewett down on form, it makes sense why Ed gets games.
Hopefully the LM team can address this.

Sorry it makes absolutely zero sense how Ed Curnow is getting a game at 34 when we are bottom 4, focus should be finding players for the future.
Dow & Hewett are along way in front of Ed.

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

Disagree
He hasnt been our best reserves player for one thing.

You sure about that?

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

It is hardly the point, it is about rewarding consistent performances and looking ahead to next year, both Binns & Dow have been by far our best performers,continuing to play Ed Curnow is just plain ridiculous & continuing to play JSos as a 2nd ruck which everyone knows he is just not up to it.

I thought he was being a troll but he simply does not get it.

 

[BlueJet]

Sorry it makes absolutely zero sense how Ed Curnow is getting a game at 34 when we are bottom 4, focus should be finding players for the future.
Dow & Hewett are along way in front of Ed.

It makes perfect sense.
Dow has clearly has had his cards marked & isn't part of our plans.
Hewett is down on form & is potentially carrying an injury.
Your line of reasoning would make sense if it were advocating for someone like Carroll..

 

[Show_Me_The_Money]

It makes perfect sense.
Dow has clearly has had his cards marked & isn't part of our plans.
Hewett is down on form & is potentially carrying an injury.
Your line of reasoning would make sense if it were advocating for someone like Carroll..

Curnow is neither part of our future plans and is also way down on any decent form hes shown in his career.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

It makes perfect sense.
Dow has clearly has had his cards marked & isn't part of our plans.
Hewett is down on form & is potentially carrying an injury.
Your line of reasoning would make sense if it were advocating for someone like Carroll..

Au contraire.

Voss has repeatedly said like for like...

That is Binns. Who's in terrific form.

 

[Keyza]

Dow will thrive at another club, unfortunately

I hope he does. Been treated pretty badly this year. He is a popular player at the club and I think he shares a house with Walsh.

 

[katmanblue]

Sorry it makes absolutely zero sense how Ed Curnow is getting a game at 34 when we are bottom 4, focus should be finding players for the future.
Dow & Hewett are along way in front of Ed.

Why not play Carroll? Is he still injured?

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[macky99]

It makes perfect sense.
Dow has clearly has had his cards marked & isn't part of our plans.
Hewett is down on form & is potentially carrying an injury.
Your line of reasoning would make sense if it were advocating for someone like Carroll..

We all clearly know Dow has his papers stamped, but the coach & MC need to be called out on this, it is totally wrong to take this stance.
Again Ed Curnow selection is wrong he is 34 and applying your logic will he there next year, no he won't.

 

[Keyza]

Au contraire.

Voss has repeatedly said like for like...

That is Binns. Who's in terrific form.

Being in good form does not seem to guarantee selection.

 

[BlueTang]

It makes perfect sense.
Dow has clearly has had his cards marked & isn't part of our plans.
Hewett is down on form & is potentially carrying an injury.
Your line of reasoning would make sense if it were advocating for someone like Carroll..

Hewett was second best on ground in the VFL with 26 disposals and 9 tackles. How does it make perfect sense.
Dow probably has a better chance at being at Carlton next year than Voss at this point

 

[BlueJet]

We all clearly know Dow has his papers stamped, but the coach & MC need to be called out on this, it is totally wrong to take this stance.
Again Ed Curnow selection is wrong he is 34 and applying your logic will he there next year, no he won't.

Ed is selected due to the absence of a meaningful alternative, which I've already stated.

 

[BlueJet]

Hewett was second best on ground in the VFL with 26 disposals and 9 tackles. How does it make perfect sense.
Dow probably has a better chance at being at Carlton next year than Voss at this point

How does it make sense that the player that's down on form isn't an autoselection?
Don't like Ed being the break glass in case of emergency option? Find better options, which was my point.

 

[BlueJet]

Au contraire.

Voss has repeatedly said like for like...

That is Binns. Who's in terrific form.

Binns is showing quite a bit of promise.
I wouldn't say that he's like for like with either Cotters or Dow though.
Ultimately, not my point though.

 

[macky99]

Ed is selected due to the absence of a meaningful alternative, which I've already stated.

You honestly believe that, unfortunately the key criteria should be form and Binns & Dow are way in front of Ed, which is sadly missing in the coaching team's approach this season.

 

[ETET]

Au contraire.

Voss has repeatedly said like for like...

That is Binns. Who's in terrific form.

Agree with this. E.g Matt Kennedy re signing video 2022 Voss said "you can only play inside mid and we only have two slots".

2023 Voss selects Matt Kennedy at HBF and then surprise surprise he is in and out of the side until he gets back in the middle.

As per Ross Lyon "you demonstrate integrity at selection"

 

[TENACIOUS]

Again Ed Curnow selection is wrong he is 34 and applying your logic will he there next year, no he won't.

Never know, all these games he’s getting may trigger another year contract…

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Binns is showing quite a bit of promise.
I wouldn't say that he's like for like with either Cotters or Dow though.
Ultimately, not my point though.

He's 95% like for like with Cotts.

Ed's about 10%.

Give it up, not watched much VFL this year would be my guess...