No problem..
They were just compensation rules.. Nothing to do with GWS picks is all which is all i was talking about and the GWS picks are still the same as in the article i linked to..
News Bock off to Gold Coast!
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No problem..
They were just compensation rules.. Nothing to do with GWS picks is all which is all i was talking about and the GWS picks are still the same as in the article i linked to..
What did porpy say?
The audio is up on the 5AA website. He's a good interview Porps, gives a bit more than the usual cliches you get.
http://www.fiveaa.com.au/article_nathan-bock-leaves-adelaide-for-gold-coast_103616
Down the page is the player for his interview.. Also has Harper's interview and Bock's press conference..
Nothing bad, just interesting to hear cos most the time players don't show much/say much and so on.. You could hear Porps was pretty disappointed..
Down the page is the player for his interview.. Also has Harper's interview and Bock's press conference..
Nothing bad, just interesting to hear cos most the time players don't show much/say much and so on.. You could hear Porps was pretty disappointed..
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No it is one of the reasons they play. People so easily forget that this is their career and for some it is a golden opportunity to set themselves up for life to be more comfortable than they could ever have expected.
None of this means he doesn't want to win or he isn't motivated by the right things and it certainly doesn't define the type of footballer he is.
Supporters need to get in the real world and understand why this happens and stop bagging a guy for wanting to secure his financial future.
His responsibility is to himself and his family, not offended supporters who happen to support the team he is employed to play for.
I bet the same people who knock him would give up a flag for a $100,000 and deny every other member that....and no one would blame you.
He isn't leaving for an extra 20k a year, it's big money and it isn't like he is ruining the team, he is just one of 38.
The other thing is regarding your comment, who's to say he doesn't think Adelaide have little chance of a flag in the next 3 years? And if you doubt they'll win one before you retire, you are hardly going to give up hundreds of thousands of dollars to play in a team to finish a bit higher up the ladder.
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Mikey, Bocky a mate of yours brah?
footyfreak
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He is good mates with my close friend who played at the crows. Been drinking with him a couple of times, in fact i said "you're not going to let a bitch do that to you and get away with it are you" right before he belted his missus. He was so blind he thought i was craigy giving him instructions!
Interesting though that the word from that group of friends who play currently 2 weeks into the season was that they were s**t this year and would probably finish near the bottom.
Probably just blowing off steam coz they weren't travelling well but it is still an unusual thing to hear so early on
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Sorry to intrude guys but just wanted to say I am sorry to hear about bock leaving. The way the AFL have set up the system for the GC to poach players is an absolute disgrace. As a geelong fan I will most likely be going through the same feelings as you guys in regards to Ablett leaving.
He is good mates with my close friend who played at the crows. Been drinking with him a couple of times, in fact i said "you're not going to let a bitch do that to you and get away with it are you" right before he belted his missus. He was so blind he thought i was craigy giving him instructions!
Interesting though that the word from that group of friends who play currently 2 weeks into the season was that they were s**t this year and would probably finish near the bottom.
Probably just blowing off steam coz they weren't travelling well but it is still an unusual thing to hear so early on
Any word from the boys on what the players think of Craigy? Lots of speculation on this board at the moment about player discontent.
I don't blame Bocky for leaving. Not many people would be able to knock back an extra 150k a year, especially if they only had a short career span and was not someone who is likely to have automatic entry into coaching/the media.
I'm just frustrated at the way it has happened and the lack of compensation. I really don't like the system of getting a draft pick immediately after your first round pick. It doesn't appropriately value the player. Harbrow for example could get a worse draft pick than Krakeour or Lynch simply because the Dogs are a better side than Port and WC. In a trade scenario there is no way that Lynch or Krakeour would demand anywhere near as much as Harbrow.
Not to mention the way it will further encourage tanking. If a club has nominated to use their first round pick in a certain year and then 3/4 through the year it is apparent they won't make the finals. There is double the incentive to tank - why get pick 6 and 7 if we can get pick 1 and 2.
I'm just frustrated at the way it has happened and the lack of compensation. I really don't like the system of getting a draft pick immediately after your first round pick. It doesn't appropriately value the player. Harbrow for example could get a worse draft pick than Krakeour or Lynch simply because the Dogs are a better side than Port and WC. In a trade scenario there is no way that Lynch or Krakeour would demand anywhere near as much as Harbrow.
Not to mention the way it will further encourage tanking. If a club has nominated to use their first round pick in a certain year and then 3/4 through the year it is apparent they won't make the finals. There is double the incentive to tank - why get pick 6 and 7 if we can get pick 1 and 2.
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IMHO, it would have been extremly dumb of him to stay. Remove the emotion of it all. Of course all of us would have loved for him to stay but the reality is that this offer is an opportunity of a lifetime and one that can set him up for life if he is half smart. If he turned back on that offer regardless of what the team situation is, he would not have thought about it rationally.
We are talking about a $1million diference in offers over 3 years. No one in their right mind would turn their back on that. Unless of course they have the $$ coming out of their ass so they can do as they please and other things become a bit more important.
I haven't seen the press conference, did he thank the AFC for sticking by him through difficult times last year and in the past??
People talk about this setting Bock up financially.
Sure he gets a lot more money, but you show me an ex-football player (who has been in the system as long as Bocky has) who is not financially well off, and I'll show you bloke who would waste any money you throw at him.
This is not about being "set-up", or providing for a family or anything like that. He could have done that on his AFC salary, and then some.
Sure he gets a lot more money, but you show me an ex-football player (who has been in the system as long as Bocky has) who is not financially well off, and I'll show you bloke who would waste any money you throw at him.
This is not about being "set-up", or providing for a family or anything like that. He could have done that on his AFC salary, and then some.
Nathan Brown copped huge amounts of crap from people when he defected to the Tigers for money, yet people want to now say Bock's doing the right thing..
I agree with you but many don't.. The world is breeding more of an attitude of stuff everything, the $ is what it's all about.. Hey if Bock chooses that then he does, but it doesn't mean we have to agree with it or say it's a great thing and way to be.. I value other things a lot higher.. Simply, Bock will always be known as that guy that left for money.. And someone may agree with what he's done but no one should try fight it that it should be viewed any other way..
I couldn't believe a wording that Bock used where he said "i'm saddened that i HAVE to leave" ..wtf? Have to leave? Sounds more like he's been taken away by someone else against his will..
I think this is going to be his problem. Anybody who was earning $3/400k a year and hadn't already set themselves up for the future, is obviously not very smart.
But there is a MASSIVE difference between $400K and $750K. All Bock is doing is maximizing his earning potential and I would be safe to say that 99% of us out there are doing the same thing.
The figure that he is getting compared to an average Joe Bloggs is irrelevant. Its the ability to earn more, MUCH more that matters here. Lets put it this way, its a human nature to want more. The more one earns, the more they want in life. Thats the basic principle of life.
So from Bock's perspective, with the difference between the 2 offers, we are talking potentially the difference in having 1 or 3 more investment properties to his name. You cannot tell me that its not significant. It is HUGE! One would set you up to live a reasonable life after football, 3 would make you live the life very comfortably from financial perspective.
Its the degree to which he sets himself up that is very relevant in this discussion. Do you set yourself up to a degree that someone like say Jason Torney has set himself up, or to the degree that Ricciuto or Goodwin have set themselves up. BIG BIG difference between the 2 cases. One allows you to live a reasonably comfortable life after footy, the other allows you to create an empire.
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