Opinion Commentary & Media II

[Lavy_Panther]

Don't want to pluck a negative out, but it's not a fantastic look for the club when a player needs to pay his own way to attend a training camp that he was told he should attend for his and the teams benefit.

My understanding is that all players who attend Utah contribute to it, but still...

 

[Snake_Baker]

Don't want to pluck a negative out, but it's not a fantastic look for the club when a player needs to pay his own way to attend a training camp that he was told he should attend for his and the teams benefit.

My understanding is that all players who attend Utah contribute to it, but still...

I don't agree. Players have always footed the bill for their end of season trip and this is the modern version.

Jed was probably dead and buried as an AFL player if he didn't show initiative post the 2017 season.

The onus was on him.

 

[Kanga Glory]

Let’s hope Jed doesn’t have the curse of an article been written on game day.

 

[Lavy_Panther]

I don't agree. Players have always footed the bill for their end of season trip and this is the modern version.

Jed was probably dead and buried as an AFL player if he didn't show initiative post the 2017 season.

The onus was on him.

This wasn't a piss up in Bali mate. This was a pre-season training camp.

 

[Snake_Baker]

This wasn't a piss up in Bali mate. This was a pre-season training camp.

As far as I know many players have always made a contribution to the trip.

It's an elective.

 

[Lavy_Panther]

As far as I know many players have always made a contribution to the trip.

It's an elective.

Did you read my initial post or not? As in, all of it?

Anyway, as a club we should be moving towards a point where our players don't have to pay their way if it's decided it's in their best interests to attend. Good on Jed for forking out, but as a professional athlete (who gets paid well, undoubtedly) he shouldn't have to. If I was a talented young player from another club and I read that I don't think it'd help the club in securing my services.

It's not having a go at the club, it's just a surprise to me that we're still at that point in 2018.

 

[darko]

Don't want to pluck a negative out, but it's not a fantastic look for the club when a player needs to pay his own way to attend a training camp that he was told he should attend for his and the teams benefit.

My understanding is that all players who attend Utah contribute to it, but still...

Agree.

 

[big_e]

Did you read my initial post or not? As in, all of it?

Anyway, as a club we should be moving towards a point where our players don't have to pay their way if it's decided it's in their best interests to attend. Good on Jed for forking out, but as a professional athlete (who gets paid well, undoubtedly) he shouldn't have to. If I was a talented young player from another club and I read that I don't think it'd help the club in securing my services.

It's not having a go at the club, it's just a surprise to me that we're still at that point in 2018.

Thought it was compulsory (and free) for some players - years one to five? - but anyone else who wants to go has to pay their own way.

 

[GoNorth]

The Drew Petrie interview with Peter Donegan is on SEN now.

 

[RobZombie]

Thought it was compulsory (and free) for some players - years one to five? - but anyone else who wants to go has to pay their own way.

Ditto. I also thought the new CBA banned clubs from forcing players to chip in for preseason camps.
But I didn’t necessarily read this one sentence

The first answer was to be on the club’s pre-season trip to Utah. Anderson had to foot the bill.

As meaning it was the club’s initiative. Of course it could have been

Club: well if you’re always injured in preseason and never fit enough by round 1 ... (idly hums a medley from The Book of Mormon)
Jed: I’ve got an idea. How about I go on the Utah trip?
Club: fantastic idea Jed.

 

[Gasometer]

giantroo an interesting little argument on Sunday Footy Show 17 to 19 minutes in about Media Opinions and Footy Clubs including us and Cornes/Duck quarrel.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Robinson's already started up with his bullshit

 

[QueenslandRoo]

Robinson's already started up with his bullshit

I agree with Robbo.

I love LT but, watching the reply over and over, LT went of for the player, not the ball.
And in so doing, LT hit Joel square in the head - front on.
LT should be suspended for a couple of weeks.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

^ What replay were you actually watching? Not a front on hit, not square in the head, and not Joel.

It was side on, mainly shoulder, and Scott.

0/3, dude.

 

[the big lebowski]

I’ve been a critic of LT but * me dead, if he got him in the head it’s weeks. If he didn’t then it was a great bump.

 

[Jindrrk]

Was no malice from LT in that....so I think Robbo needs to go back to the pub from where he came

 

[koshari]

^ What replay were you actually watching? Not a front on hit, not square in the head, and not Joel.

It was side on, mainly shoulder, and Scott.

0/3, dude.

true, terrible post, at least slobbos tweet got the date correct.

 

[Kanga Glory]

Brad Scott will be on ‘the couch’ this Monday night on Fox Footy

 

[Jindrrk]

Gee they even had a collage on MMM of opinions on LT's incident.

Roos thinks he should get 2-4. Ummm. No.

 

[ArchKing Carey]

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...-after-holding-off-hawks-20180422-p4zb2a.html

North Melbourne 14.14 (98) def. Hawthorn 11.4 (70)

Maybe it’s time for everyone to think again. Think again about the idea of a rebuild, think again about just what is possible in any given season, think again about how to think about North Melbourne.
Last year the Kangaroos went hard after Josh Kelly and Dustin Martin. They landed neither man, moved on viable and experienced AFL players like Sam Gibson and Aaron Mullett, and looked like they were heading for a spell at or near the bottom.

But on Sunday at Etihad Stadium the notionally rebuilding Roos held off a Hawthorn side that notwithstanding injuries entered the match looking every bit a top four contender, but about whom afterwards it was hard to know just what to make.
The same can be said of North too. The Roos’ win was their third in five games, moving them into the top four, where they will in all likelihood remain at the end of the round.

So how far can they go in 2018? Well let’s look at what they offered on Sunday. In attack the Roos are multi-dimensional. It helps in no small amount that one of those dimensions is Ben Brown, who moved into the Coleman medal lead and is staking a claim to be one of the best value draft picks of all time.
The Tasmanian is next to impossible to stop when on song, such is his leap and reach, not to mention his pinpoint accuracy. He made the Hawks’ backline, a unit that had so terrifically suffocated Melbourne seven days earlier, look all at sea.

A player of Brown’s quality has a compounding effect too. The big man created chaos, typified by a first quarter effort in which with Hawk eyes stationed on the spearhead he mis-read the flight of the ball only for the Sherrin to land in the lap of Jack Ziebell.
Speaking of the North skipper, his move into attack has been one of this year’s positional change success stories. Not only does he have a knack of finding the goal, so too is he a fierce tackler, helping lock the ball inside the Roos’ 50 where others can capitalise as well.

People laughed in mid-February when Brad Scott said Jarrad Waite’s best football was in front of him. The North coach might not have been that far from the mark. Waite repeatedly outmarked his opponents on Sunday and had he been a bit neater with his finishing the veteran would have had a day out.
Ziebell’s grunt isn’t particularly missed in the midfield. Ben Cunnington keeps putting his head over the ball and he had plenty of assistance from Trent Dumont, at least in the first. Together they helped North to healthy clearance advantage, laying the platform for Ryan Clarke, Jamie Macmillan, Shaun Atley and Shaun Higgins, until Higgins was concussed in the third term.

They also have a man who is reviving the role of tagger. Ben Jacobs not only curbed the influence of Tom Mitchell, he also won plenty of the ball himself.
Not only do the Roos have a star up forward, they also have a gun in the backline. Robbie Tarrant did another brilliant job of mopping up, while his fellow Scott Thompson remains a force,absorbing pressure and hitting targets aplenty of Sunday.

So where are the limitations? Well consistency, an issue for most sides, was a problem for the Roos as well. The likes of of Marley Williams, Jed Anderson, Billy Hartung and Jy Simpkin all drifted out of the game in the third quarter as Alastair Clarkson’s Hawks veered back into the picture.
Isaac Smith ran hard and got busy, James Sicily was influential down back, while Luke Breust and Liam Shiels pegged back the difference.

North’s cause wasn’t helped by the loss of Higgins and Ed Vickers-Willis in almost simultaneous head collisions midway through the third term, leaving them desperately short of run. But nor did they do themselves many favours in the second half. A final term Hartung turnover deep in defence springs to mind.
As such the Roos led by 57 points at half-time but it wasn’t until Cameron Zurhaar goaled just before time on of the final quarter that North had the game won.

 

[CBSlogger]

Not sure if posted already but now home from the game, just settled in to watch the replay.

Johnny Ralph in the pre-game speaks of Hawthorn's two big outs, Poppy and Rioli, and their forward pressure, before suggesting in their absence Billy Hartung might be moved forward to play their role.

Wow.

Now, back to that glorious replay...

 

[Gasometer]

Robbo gives us a big LIKE tomorrow.

A big Dislike for Lindsay Thomas.

 

[Gasometer]

Not sure if posted already but now home from the game, just settled in to watch the replay.

Johnny Ralph in the pre-game speaks of Hawthorn's two big outs, Poppy and Rioli, and their forward pressure, before suggesting in their absence Billy Hartung might be moved forward to play their role.

Wow.

Now, back to that glorious replay...

The first 15 minits of the Pre Game was Hawthorn talk.

I turned it over to watch boring Super Cars cut laps.

 

[arden station]

Don't want to pluck a negative out, but it's not a fantastic look for the club when a player needs to pay his own way to attend a training camp that he was told he should attend for his and the teams benefit.

My understanding is that all players who attend Utah contribute to it, but still...

Professional development tax write off?

 

[giantroo]

Robbo's tackle


WHAT I LIKE

1. NORTH MELBOURNE

The Kangas are silent assassins. Got no respect for beating St Kilda and Carlton, but proved on Sunday they are a tough team to play against. Kept Hawthorn to three goals in the first half on the back of a stunning pressure factor of 204 which is rare on the fast deck of Etihad. The Roos then beat up the Hawks on spread and ball movement. Rocked by concussion to Ed Vickers-Willis and Shaun Higgins — the latter could spell trouble for Hawk Ryan Burton who chose to bump and not tackle — they withstood a Hawks surge in the third quarter. Time to give Brad Scott’s boys some credit.