Review Dogs 126 def Tigers 71

[weltschmerz]

I wonder what Daniel benches. The man is one hell of a unit

He’s flattened both Max Gawn and Sean Darcy. Strong fella.

 

[BrisDog]

Its a shame he left a few relatively easy ones out on the field.

If there was any doubt he's arrived in a big way and will only get better from here.

He is leaning back on a few of his set shots 40-50 out, losing momentum at the strike point.

Oooohhhh to have a decent forwards coach. It’s so obvious.

 

[Dog 36]

He is leaning back on a few of his set shots 40-50 out, losing momentum at the strike point.

Oooohhhh to have a decent forwards coach. It’s so obvious.

I would not leave kicking at goal to the forwards coach

I would get a specialist kicking coach into the club for both set shots and general field kicking

Too important of a skill not to give it maximum attention

 

[Igloo]

West needs to remain in the team, no more floating in and out or as the sub. While not overly quick he’s a tackling maniac and has excellent hands that translates to him being a damaging score involvement player.

Time to fully back him in.

Related - it’s also time to phase Scott out. He’s extremely courageous but small yet not quick or skilled. West, AJ and Clarke are that future in that area for us, I’d love to see all three in the side vs west coast in a couple of weeks. AJ may have to have a couple more goes at sub, but I think that’s a good option for him until he gets another preseason in.

I honestly thought Scott was having a really good game up until he got concussed. Pressure was good, he was more aggressive than normal and stuck a few really strong tackles, the touches he had were clean. He's been in a bit of a rut of form lately, but looked like he was aware of that and really trying to turn it around.
He's obviously not the long term answer, but I feel like he can be trusted in game more so than Jones or especially Clarke could at the moment. Potentially even into next year.

Agree 100% about West though.

 

[grassman75]

Nek Minnet Petracca comes from the clouds to take it out

I have a great fear that Libba and English are going to take too many votes off Bont and that's how Daicos and Petracca will beat him

 

[olimauldon]

Naughtons set shot kicking is improving I reckon

 

[MaxiBont]

I can’t get over how good Jamarra has gotten this season. Feel like his improved in every area.

Jamarra, Naugton and Darcy as our talls for the future…

 

[grassman75]

The way Richmond played early had more to do with coming off a really tough game against Melbourne, combined with a 5 day break and missing 3 key players in Cotchin, Martin and Grimes. They just couldn't keep up with our running game.

Coming off such a disappointing loss in Ballarat, I thought the boys would come out fired up, and ready to shop early - the Tiges just couldn't / wouldn't do the hard yards to match us. As a consequence, the result was a fait d'accompli by 1/4 time.

Richmond's changes were self inflicted though. They chose to manage Cotchin and Dusty. Same as when we played them earlier in the year with Cotchin as sub. They either don't respect us or they are helping us

 

[Munnez]

Naughtons set shot kicking is improving I reckon

It is but I feel that the shots are starting to come from better spots I.e. not wide in the pockets all the time. Getting more direct Shots and often closer to goal

 

[Next Waiting]

I have a great fear that Libba and English are going to take too many votes off Bont and that's how Daicos and Petracca will beat him

Forget the Brownlow, Bont started the round 21 coaches votes behind Daicos and 10 behind Petracca. He's now 11 behind Daicos and level with Petracca in 2nd with both of those yet to play this round.

30 points left on the table for Bont with 3 to play including Hawks and Weagles.

Libba probably gets a handful for last night too. Lets say 7 or 8 possibly moving him into the top 15.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Good to see the Tiggers taking their usual cheap shots. Knees in packs, head high and late contact when beaten for the ball.

Bunch of pricks.

Nank and Vlaustin are two scumbags of the highest order.

I have a great fear that Libba and English are going to take too many votes off Bont and that's how Daicos and Petracca will beat him

Bont will be fine, historically Macca, Libba, Dunks haven’t stolen too many votes off him. English tends to fly under the radar, even last night he was solid but Bont, Libba, Marra will take the votes.

 

[doggy_dog]

Naughtons set shot kicking is improving I reckon

They brought up a stat on screen last night, he’s something like 36.15 from set shots this year. I was genuinely stunned he’d been that accurate

 

[The Inbetweener]

Naughtons set shot kicking is improving I reckon

Except for that last one. There were a few disappointing misses in the past including one from Cody that he’d usually kick. No doubt fatigued though.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

The weekend Jam in my donut index currently stands at 100%.

Its nice.

 

[Feerits Elf]

Maybe he's trolling us and the tatts are literally just the two little tips we can see.

Tips out for the lads

 

[doggies ftw]

I think he's still tracking ahead of where Buddy was at the same age. If someone has a comparison it would be good to see

Buddy kicked 73 goals in his 3rd year (and 116 in his 4th) so not quite

But Buddy aside, still on track with other modern greats I’d think - it’d be really nice for him if he can get 9 goals across the next 3 games and finish in the 40s which would be a super result.

 

[doggies ftw]

Honestly it could be 2024. He’s 3rd in the league in marks inside 50 and 11th in total score involvements across the league. He just generates a significant amount of scores and scoring positions.

Marra isn’t just a mark and goal player either, he has a very well rounded forward game already. If he’s kicking 50-60 goals with the rest of his game, it puts him in the conversation.

Yeah I’ve said it since VFL days, that he just seems to be the type that he’ll come in and avg 2 goals a game straight away - his first two years were slow at times and didn’t play out like that but that’s starting to shine through now. He just generates bulk scores.

I remember after his 5-6 goal day outs in the VFL people were saying it was a negative because he didn’t actually play that well but he hit the scoreboard, and all I could think was that’s exactly what we need. He’s such a smart inside 50 player that he finds the easy marks and goals, that’s a skill not luck. Now he’s starting to take contested marks and do some freaky things that he’s adding to that baseline of just finding space inside 50 and finding easy goals.

Can definitely see him putting together a monster 80 goal season one day, if he sorts his kicking out.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Richmond's changes were self inflicted though. They chose to manage Cotchin and Dusty. Same as when we played them earlier in the year with Cotchin as sub. They either don't respect us or they are helping us

Dusty “managed”.

 

[dogwatch]

What the hell happened last night? Did Bevo show some humility and concede that we we've wasted the season on a s**t gameplan, and decide to throw caution to the wind? There was clearly an attitude last night of just moving the ball aggressively and accepting the risk. At times we looked uncomfortable and awkward doing it because we aren't practiced in that style. But the outcome was a great win and an enjoyable spectacle.

At the end of the first quarter I still felt like the game was 50/50 given our recent history of great starts leading to disappointing losses. But we didn't go into our shells like we normally do once the momentum swings, and we just kept attacking and the lead stayed healthy all night.

You've got to wonder why this wasn't tried months ago when nothing else was working or even attractive to the eye. Our own fans were switching off. Meanwhile the best teams in the comp were playing this way. Not only winning, but drawing oohs and aahs from the neutral onlookers.

I don't buy the argument that we didn't have the personnel. That's been way overstated. We have had all of last night's personnel for much of the year even if not quite all at the same time. Liam Jones only missed 5 games. The biggest string of missed games was JJ (8 games) but he alone doesn't make the difference.

It was pretty apparent that the players really enjoyed last night too. Seemed like the shackles were off.

 

[doggies ftw]

You've got to wonder why this wasn't tried months ago when nothing else was working or even attractive to the eye. Our own fans were switching off. Meanwhile the best teams in the comp were playing this way. Not only winning, but drawing oohs and aahs from the neutral onlookers.

I don't buy the argument that we didn't have the personnel. That's been way overstated. We have had all of last night's personnel for much of the year even if not quite all at the same time. Liam Jones only missed 5 games. The biggest string of missed games was JJ (8 games) but he alone doesn't make the difference.

It was pretty apparent that the players really enjoyed last night too. Seemed like the shackles were off.

Yeah I’m sure some will argue that we just executed better last night, and maybe true to an extent - but that was clearly a different mindset in almost all facets of both our offensive & defensive games last night IMO.

It’s just frustrating because this style of play actually really suits our players. Yeah we’ve missed a few of our half backs at times this year but most weeks our half back line is still easily the strongest part of our backline - we should be trying to generate all our scores from deep in defence and utilising that but we usually play forward half football which hangs our defence out to dry? Our forwards are all fast, strong marks in space but not the strongest pack markers, so again fast movement off half back plays into their strengths, but repeat long entries into a congested forward line (which is what you get when you play a fwd 50 territory game) absolutely does not.

Everything we do most weeks opens up our weaknesses and hides our strengths which is why it’s been so bloody frustrating to watch, last night was the opposite - that sort of footy is giving us the best chance to win with this list, so where’s it been?

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Why is it that people think this victory somehow proves, with fancy words, that "Beveridge was not trying to to win before but he tried really hard to win this game, and that's why the Dogs won"?

 

[lachy]

Richmond's changes were self inflicted though. They chose to manage Cotchin and Dusty. Same as when we played them earlier in the year with Cotchin as sub. They either don't respect us or they are helping us

They are both at or very close to the end

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[dogwatch]

Why is it that people think this victory somehow proves, with fancy words, that "Beveridge was not trying to to win before but he tried really hard to win this game, and that's why the Dogs won"?

Who said he wasn't trying to win?

 

[MaxiBont]

We can beat anyone this season.

Finals footy suits us a lot better than the regular season - our team is a lot better this season than last imo.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

What the hell happened last night? Did Bevo show some humility and concede that we we've wasted the season on a s**t gameplan, and decide to throw caution to the wind? There was clearly an attitude last night of just moving the ball aggressively and accepting the risk. At times we looked uncomfortable and awkward doing it because we aren't practiced in that style. But the outcome was a great win and an enjoyable spectacle.

At the end of the first quarter I still felt like the game was 50/50 given our recent history of great starts leading to disappointing losses. But we didn't go into our shells like we normally do once the momentum swings, and we just kept attacking and the lead stayed healthy all night.

I think that it was just a consequence of the mc being forced to abandon the stupidity of playing Bruce, Keath and Gardner in the same defensive half.

It was noticeable how fluid we were coming out of defence with the extra small and two competent talls who could use the ball.

I feel for Bruce and the injury that he sustained, but the harsh reality of the game is that you cannot display the levels of loyalty that Beveridge showed him by playing players out of position. And hope that it works against all reason. It was a bone headed idea when announced and it wasn't any better when placed under eyeball scrutiny when used during games. I really hope that we dont regress to the previous baseline and play an extra tall when Keath and Gardner are both available this week.

Ive clearly not been as anti-Beveridge as many on this board. But this section decision alone should have him stand in front of the Whitten Oval and given himself an uppercut for our pleasure.

Pick one of JO'D or Keath to pair with Jones and settle on the lineup with a view to being competitive come finals time. Anybody else should only be considered in case of an injury emergency.