Make that any government, to the chagrin of the 'my mob/your mob' preachers pumping out only their mobs versions of why.
How does Labor win the next federal election/elections to come?
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Make that any government, to the chagrin of the 'my mob/your mob' preachers pumping out only their mobs versions of why.
Libs will win the next election, expect an absolute torrent of how the Federal Government was behind keeping the covid numbers low despite it being the states who did all the hard work (but at the same time, expect Victoria to be smashed with political propaganda about how Dan Andrews killed everyone/caused the bushfires/bombed hiroshima/killed Jesus).
Labor would have to do something they haven't for a long time. Replace Albo with someone actually charismatic, who gets out and pushes the message hard. That when the fires raged, Scomo had ****ed off to Hawaii. When the pandemic started, Scomo was at the rugby/Hillsong shaking hands and being irresponsible. When the pandemic hit hardest, he left it up to the states and waived being a leader.
Labor could have the greatest policies known to mankind, but no one will buy it because all Liberal will do is come up with reasons why they don't work without pushing their own policies. Its how they won the last election.
Labor have to go hard at Scomo effectively deserting the country at every opportunity. Every presser, every soundbite, you need to make it known to the masses that Scott Morrison ditched you and left you to suffer. Play ads with that failed handshake when he was doing the rounds after people had lost their homes and property due to the fires.
Labor would have to do something they haven't for a long time. Replace Albo with someone actually charismatic, who gets out and pushes the message hard. That when the fires raged, Scomo had ****ed off to Hawaii. When the pandemic started, Scomo was at the rugby/Hillsong shaking hands and being irresponsible. When the pandemic hit hardest, he left it up to the states and waived being a leader.
Labor could have the greatest policies known to mankind, but no one will buy it because all Liberal will do is come up with reasons why they don't work without pushing their own policies. Its how they won the last election.
Labor have to go hard at Scomo effectively deserting the country at every opportunity. Every presser, every soundbite, you need to make it known to the masses that Scott Morrison ditched you and left you to suffer. Play ads with that failed handshake when he was doing the rounds after people had lost their homes and property due to the fires.
Absolutely - we NEED to hold our own to the same standards we hold the opposition to or it disappears up its own a-hole with whataboutism.
starting with a federal icac with royal commission powers, punishments for corruption as a government servant or corrupting a government servant to start at 10 years.
To get it through you would have to introduce it as “from this day forwards”
nab the first guy - have him facing 10 years and give him the option of a reduced sentence if he brings in a few more bad apples
watcha few of these flogs doing ten years and watch the corruption slow dramatically.
Oh and if you vote consistently in favour of a certain industry - you are not allowed to work in that industry for ten years.
double politicians pay - to remove the incentive to be corrupt and remove all political donations over ten dollars.
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Absolutely - also attack ads showing that quarantine is a federal matter
Don't underestimate Albanese. He will hold Morrison to account and the only way the ALP will win the next election, is to make Morrison and his corrupt, inept Government the center of attention. Albanese is more than capable of doing that and the "attack ads" showing that quarantine is a Federal responsibility may not have been turned into visual representations yet, but the ALP and Albanese are sowing the seeds for that campaign already.
Penny Wong and others within the Federal Parliamentary ALP have been voicing those sentiments as has Annastacia Palaszczuk. The ALP now is not the same ALP as the last election.
One thing though the ALP must do to have a realistic chance, is to show unity and that means Shorten has to shut his gob!
Morrison is hoping to go to an election after the vaccines have been rolled out but in Australia's case, the only thing that the vacinnes will do is make people much more complacent and you watch the Covid numbers go up because there is no evidence that any of these vaccines stop people contracting Covid or spreading it. Politically, that will cook Morrison's goose so to speak but from a humanitarian point of view, that is absolutely terrible.
The earliest date for a standard half-Senate election is the 7th of August this year and the last date is the 21st of May, 2022. This is significant because by the earliest date, 7th August, the economy will have been completely destroyed, Biden and the climate change agenda will have left Morrison completely isolated and the Covid numbers will have escalated because even if the vaccination coverage is high by the end of March, that leaves a full 5 months before the earliest he can go to the polls and that is a very, very long time in a political sense.
If the ALP go down the path of the last election and make themselves the center of attraction, that'll usher in another term for Morrison.
I can't see the ALP going down that track again as long as Albanese is the leader because he will be much more of an attack dog than the neutered drover's dog the led the ALP to the last election.
The success of rolling out the vacinne will be great for Morrison but that will be forgotten when complacency kicks in and numbers of Covid-19 cases start to climb.
We will hear, "ohh, we have to let 'herd immunity' kick in" but herd immunity is not possible with SARS-CoV-2.
Six months is a hell of a long time in politics, from the end of March 'till the earliest date for an election and 4 months waiting for "herd immunity" to kick in whilst Covid cases keep going up. It probably will make people realise that "herd immunity" is as much bull s**t as was Morrison's handling of Covid.
I really do hope that for people's sake, this scenario does not eventuate, that is, Covid getting out of control but the evidence thus far is overwhelming that these vacinnes do not protect people from contracting the virus nor does it prevent people from passing it on.
One of the really alarming things that maybe happening, and I stress maybe, is that there is a school of thought emerging that the new strains of the virus are evolving because people who are very weakened and who contract the virus, when these people are being treated to try and help them with different types of drugs to try and alleviate their symptoms, this is causing the virus to mutate which, is neither a profound or unique occurrence because that's what viruses and bacteria do.
We only have to look at how bacteria mutates to make treatment with antibiotics less effective and even though antibiotics are not effective against viruses, the concept is the same, that is, viruses mutate when they are being "threatened", for want of a better term.
One thing further I'd like to add, for those who were wondering why Morison was trying ever so hard to keep back the rolling out of the vaccines, one only has to understand that the closer the roll out was to the earliest election date, the far better the positive impact for him. That also says something about the ALP's constant carping about the roll out of vaccines being to slow. It sounds cynical but it had more to do with politics than with concern over people's health because they understand the political implications of a delayed roll out of the vaccines as well.
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My only question is how the snowflakes will handle another Labor loss.
The mood in here last time around was painful to watch. Almost on par with Trump supporters after Don lost.
The mood in here last time around was painful to watch. Almost on par with Trump supporters after Don lost.
Same old team that failed last time, just moved the deck chairs? It was Labor policy that was rejected.
Probably the same way they handle every loss. Half the base says its the worst thing to happen, the other half asks for a clean out of their party.
I don't see how they win with Albo.
They could have the greatest policies ever in this country and he couldn't articulate them to the masses.
It was the fact that they actually took the time to try and tell the electorate what they planned to do rsther than just three word slogans.
abbott got in on the back of no policy - well except no cuts to the abc and a bunch of three word slogans
scummo stayed in by just attacking labor policies and doing almost nothing in the way of releasing policies for the country
id imagine labor wont paint a target on themselves next time
You don't win government any more by having great policies. You win by the existing government being either tired, corrupt, bastards, or outwardly incompetent. The problem for Labor is that the media is in the pocket of the LNP, so although the federal LNP has been corrupt (Angus Taylor, McKenzie), bastards (Robodebt, misallocation of bushfire relief funds, Scummo jetting off to Hawaii during a bushfire) and not particularly competent (the states have saved their bacon from the aged care screwup), it isn't hurting them all that much in the public consciousness.
Imagine if we had the daily headlines from the rudd era holding the liberals to account
We need more media like the ones who claimed Sports Rorts was a huge issue and Victoria’s second wave was nothing.
They went a bit early with that cartoon...
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I dont think they will run many policies.
That is what they learned from the last election.
It will be a long time before an opposition goes to an election with big policies again.
They cant win the next election. They dont want to.
It is still the same bunch from 10-15 yrs who are recognisable failures and tired boring career pollies.
It is still the same bunch from 10-15 yrs who are recognisable failures and tired boring career pollies.
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Abbott represented the dregs of the Howard years, Pyne, himself, Andrews, Bishop, the duds, boasted about it and was rewarded with government. Like instability in the party room, it's something you guys only get told to worry about when it's the ALP.
We are still recovering from the vile joke that was Rudd/Gillard. Labor have a mountain of work to do if they want to win back our trust.
The best part is we have News Corp to articulate the utter stupidity of Labor policies, and fortify our elections.
I don't know what the answer is, I really don't.
Maybe give death tax another run.
The best part is we have News Corp to articulate the utter stupidity of Labor policies, and fortify our elections.
I don't know what the answer is, I really don't.
Maybe give death tax another run.
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Andrew Leigh, as boring as he may come across, is a breath of fresh air in the current climate of politics. Extremely knowledgeable and labour are privileged to have someone of his caliber and nous in their party. See below starting at 41 mins for his debate with the RBA:
Very impressive.
Very impressive.
It's criminal that he isn't in the shadow ministry.
So taking what News Corp publishes as gospel is the passage to true enlightenment. Got it!We are still recovering from the vile joke that was Rudd/Gillard. Labor have a mountain of work to do if they want to win back our trust.
The best part is we have News Corp to articulate the utter stupidity of Labor policies, and fortify our elections.
I don't know what the answer is, I really don't.
Maybe give death tax another run.
NSWCROW
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Don't mind ET he's harmless.So taking what News Corp publishes as gospel is the passage to true enlightenment. Got it!
Like that uncle who still lives with your grandma and only comes out of his room for xmas lunch
I've previously said that Labor won't win the election if Albo is leader. I'd like to add a caveat to that: if Scummo and friends engage in an act of corruption, bastardry or incompetence that is so heinous or impactful on the common person that the media and the public can't afford to ignore it, then Albo can win. Otherwise, he's not going to have the impact in Queensland necessary to win.
Thankyou. You do have some weird relatives.So taking what News Corp publishes as gospel is the passage to true enlightenment. Got it!
