Toast Jamarra Ugle-Hagan - Welcome to the club

[bobs head soup]

I think it's his consistency rather than an outright lack of kicking ability, so was prone to bad skill errors. Something he can improve on over time, but definitely something I'd consider a weakness until he's able to demonstrate otherwise

I do think draft watching can become a bit of an echo chamber where hard and fast calls are made on scant evidence.

Most saw Jamarra's under age year at Oakleigh and a couple of rep games At Oakleigh he had 77 kicks in total and most of them were at goal

 

[House_of_Dahl]

How smooth was the mark for his first goal. A perfect sidestep to throw his defender the wrong side then a smooth glide and vacuum into the mits. Exciting times to come

Edit-oops I mean first

 

[Virgin Dog]

I do think draft watching can become a bit of an echo chamber where hard and fast calls are made on scant evidence.

Most saw Jamarra's under age year at Oakleigh and a couple of rep games At Oakleigh he had 77 kicks in total and most of them were at goal

I admittedly base it on very limited viewing - showed so much X-factor, but had a habit of sometimes over kicking or dribbling when delivering inside 50. Otherwise I believe Draft Central said his kicking had room for improvement, but again it's fairly subjective

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

View attachment 1180113How many cms is Marra’s lack of neck costing him?

They were added onto his arms and legs, that actually DO something. The neck is pretty much useless

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

So pleased for Marra, the pressure on him is off the scale. I don’t even think TBoyd had this much pressure and scrutiny.

Except Tom’s pay packet gave them further ammunition

 

[BorisDawg]

Now is a good time to remind everyone that under a month ago knightmare thought the Dogs should trade Jamarra, West and Lipinksi for De Goey.

What the *? That's horrendous.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Now is a good time to remind everyone that under a month ago knightmare thought the Dogs should trade Jamarra, West and Lipinksi for De Goey.

yuck

 

[Libba39]

In 2016 a spectacularly raw tall forward debuted for us late in the season. In fact he had never played forward before. Though he didn’t have a third of JUH’s talent he had a better first game, kicking a goal against Geelong at GMHBA. He also kicked the first goal of the granny. I would argue he didn’t end up being a defensive liability in the finals.

It was Zaine's second year in the system and his last year in the TAC wasn't derailed by a pandemic. No comparison here for me.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

I think it's his consistency rather than an outright lack of kicking ability, so was prone to bad skill errors. Something he can improve on over time, but definitely something I'd consider a weakness until he's able to demonstrate otherwise

Also, Buddy is one of the best field kicks in the league. He’s amazing delivering into the forward line

 

[Shacf501]

Just rewatched the game, what I liked most is granted he had a little wind assistance but that second goal was a huge bomb. Went roughly 60m! Would be awesome if this became the norm for him as it would allow him to be far more dangerous higher in the forward line.

 

[ScottyDogg]

It was Zaine's second year in the system and his last year in the TAC wasn't derailed by a pandemic. No comparison here for me.

So a player who took two years to debut after an uninterrupted under 18s campaign was more likely to succeed playing forward in finals than a guy who debuted in his first year even though he had an interrupted under 18s campaign?

You do understand that your only making your case worse.

Definitely worth discussing whether we would be too tall with Marra, Naughts Bruce, English and potentially Martin in the same team. But your whole “a first year forward will be a defensive liability in finals” is just random. I could pick a whole heap of successful finals forwards who have provided less pressure than Marra would but they play because they have a certain role in a certain team’s make up. We may decide in a few weeks that Marra doesn’t suit our best forward set up for finals but it won’t be because he is a first year player or is a defensive liability.

People keep repeating this stuff without evidence. Send me to some specific examples in the last two games. Happy to check it out on Kayo.

 

[H Dolphin]

So a player who took two years to debut after an uninterrupted under 18s campaign was more likely to succeed playing forward in finals than a guy who debuted in his first year even though he had an interrupted under 18s campaign?

You do understand that your only making your case worse.

Definitely worth discussing whether we would be too tall with Marra, Naughts Bruce, English and potentially Martin in the same team. But your whole “a first year forward will be a defensive liability in finals” is just random. I could pick a whole heap of successful finals forwards who have provided less pressure than Marra would but they play because they have a certain role in a certain team’s make up. We may decide in a few weeks that Marra doesn’t suit our best forward set up for finals but it won’t be because he is a first year player or is a defensive liability.

People keep repeating this stuff without evidence. Send me to some specific examples in the last two games. Happy to check it out on Kayo.

Pardon me for butting in. Cordy has a Premiership Medal available to display, earned in the quirkiest Grand Final imaginable. He's untouchable. Beg his forgiveness.

 

[jdz101]

Could our high performance team work with him on some drills during the preseason to elongate his neck?

Not expecting diplodocus or anything but some gains in that department would be great.

 

[H Dolphin]

Could our high performance team work with him on some drills during the preseason to elongate his neck?

Not expecting diplodocus or anything but some gains in that department would be great.

Neck, dinosaurs, lockdowns. This kid is could be Chris Grant plus

 

[Dry Rot]

JUH has had his taste, now time to bring back in our best medium forward Hannan.

 

[H Dolphin]

JUH has had his taste, now time to bring back in our best medium forward Hannan.

The lad, the astronaut and the broooooose. This is, potentially, half our best forward line ever.

 

[weltschmerz]

The lad, the astronaut and the broooooose. This is, potentially, half our best forward line ever.

Add the Flea, the Shepp Dog, and a resting mid from an elite midfield.

 

[H Dolphin]

Add the Flea, the Shepp Dog, and a resting mid from an elite midfield.

forgot about the other half. I won't be able to sleep until 2 October.

 

[Smiley Boy]

Yeah Hannan can be the #1 at Footscray now thx Bevo

 

[H Dolphin]

Yeah Hannan can be the #1 at Footscray now thx Bevo

Hannon may, or may not, make itinto the 2021

Yeah Hannan can be the #1 at Footscray now thx Bevo

Whoever else Bev and the MC choose on and for GF Day, this will be THE best forward 6 in the Club's history.

 

[goodcop badcop]

The comparisons always bothered me, because the only thing they have in common aside from being key forwards is the fact they're indigenous. It's just a lazy and casually racist comparison.

Buddy is a beautiful field kick, very strong in the contest, but poor overhead.

Marra is a poor field kick (although he was surprisingly good against the Suns), better when leaping to the contest rather than standing and wrestling, and strong overhead.

I've always thought a Charlie Curnow was a better comparison. Has the long arms and similar aerial and ground ball ability. They both had to work on their kicking as well. But with the major difference being Curnow is an endurance beast, while Jamarra is more of a speed demon.

 

[bullish23]

For finals does it come down to JUH v Stef?

More I think about it, I think it does.

 

[H Dolphin]

For finals does it come down to JUH v Stef?

More I think about it, I think it does.

The lad's his own talent. For mine, he's a wildcard, like Liam Picken.

 

[doggies ftw]

Who was it who made a dickhead of themselves on here after someone said Jamarra can kick them from anywhere? say what you want about his under 18s kicking, I can’t say I saw enough of it to make an opinion, but anyone who has watched any of his vfl games this year shouldn’t be surprised he’ll consistently kick set shots from 50+, the pockets etc. Blokes the most natural goal kicker on our list already, our forward line has come a long way this year but I still feel we lack a natural goal kicker or two, the type who makes goals look easy rather than our usual method of working hard and peppering the goals til one sticks.

There’s a place for him in this finals team imo

 

[bresker]

I’m very happy that this thread is now about FOOTBALL