List Management 2018: Make room for the super draft.

[hawkermitch]

Anyone think that Jordan Clark will be available at our pick with the announcement if his Glandular fever. Hawks have been known to take some risks in the draft such as Burton(injury) & Garlett (off ground issues)

Great idea but from what I've been reading Jordan Clark irrespective of illness is still likely to be drafted in the top 20.

Bailey Williams would be nice to have and likely to be selected prior to the hawks pick.

As for the 1st pick if a taller bull of a mid is available that would be great if not than go for the hawks weakness KPP.

Gippy boys Noah Gown and Kyle Reid maybe a possibility, although Gown is more like a Gunston type, still good to have.
These type of boys would go well with a teammate in Mozzie who may have a bid in the main draft or rookie him.

 

[sven_inc]

What will we be after at the draft?

We do probably need a shiny new KPF/KPD but with picks after 50 are they worthwhile?

Hopeful Mozzie can be snared as a rookie but theres a fair bit of media about him atm.

 

[Turtles all the way down]

We do probably need a shiny new KPF/KPD but with picks after 50 are they worthwhile?

Brian Lake and Jeremy McGovern were both massively late picks (JM a rookie)

Just find a tall kid with bad skin-folds who looks bored in his interviews and hope for the best.

 

[flinchfree]

Brian Lake and Jeremy McGovern were both massively late picks (JM a rookie)

Just find a tall kid with bad skin-folds who looks bored in his interviews and hope for the best.

 

[Davo-27]

Been doing a phantom draft and the outcome of our 1st Pick was this.

Hawthorn select James Rowbottom with Pick 53.

Of those i thought would be realistic available at our pick I was hoping that either Hamill or Jacob Kossie(CBF trying to spell his name) would be available.
Had to do a bit of quick research when neither of those were available and arrived at the clearance machine that is Rowbottom.

He reminds me a bit of Worpel with that acceleration and willingness to scrap under a pack. Hawks have recently delisted O’Rourke, Lovell & Langford so a midfielder was on the priority list.

Interested to know if you guys would be happy if this is the result of our 1st Pick.

im not a big fan of James Rowbottom and the reason i say this, is that he isnt even in the top 7 midfielders in his TAC Cup team, not just that, im not a fan of how he plays.

Oakleigh Chargers:
1.Matt Rowell (2019) probably top 3 next year
2.Riley Collier-Dawkins
3.Noah Anderson (2019) probably top 10 next year
4.Jack Ross
5.Xavier O'Neill
6.Will Golds
7.Trent Bianco (2019) 20-50 next year
8.James Rowbottom
9.Noah Answerth

 

[Mitchell54]

im not a big fan of James Rowbottom and the reason i say this, is that he isnt even in the top 7 midfielders in his TAC Cup team, not just that, im not a fan of how he plays.

Oakleigh Chargers:
1.Matt Rowell (2019) probably top 3 next year
2.Riley Collier-Dawkins
3.Noah Anderson (2019) probably top 10 next year
4.Jack Ross
5.Xavier O'Neill
6.Will Golds
7.Trent Bianco (2019) 20-50 next year
8.James Rowbottom
9.Noah Answerth

I rate him 4th on that list

 

[Davo-27]

I rate him 4th on that list

well we all have different ratings, i'm not a fan

DPS an essendon fan who also watches under 18 footy agrees with you, he has been a huge fan of his all year, but i cant see it with him tbh... and trust me i've tried.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hahaha very good.

This Sydney Stack looks worse then Beau Dowler did when he rocked up to the draft in a wheelchair and we still took him.

Pass on Stack.

You realize that’s Buddy’s wife’s car after he ran into a bunch of parked cars?

 

[dermott]

I believe Conor Nash is now an A list rookie and will be elevated to the main list in 2020. ( Reference AFL.com article).
This means CJ is the B list rookie at this time. It will be interesting to see if we add others.

 

[streetspirit]

Well done to Conor. Opens the door to get another Irishman over.

 

[beta_condition]

What will we be after at the draft?

We do probably need a shiny new KPF/KPD but with picks after 50 are they worthwhile?

Hopeful Mozzie can be snared as a rookie but theres a fair bit of media about him atm.

Ben Brown was over looked in quite a few drafts and went at 47, Tom McDonald went at pick 53, Harris Andrew went at pick 63, Jeremy McGovern went in the rookie draft, that's all from just this decade.

 

[Dewnior]

Hopeful Mozzie can be snared as a rookie but theres a fair bit of media about him atm.

 

[The Kipster]

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Ahhh The Smooth Talkers themselves, one is an indecisive, ignorant corrupt slime ball and the other is a dirty, filthy thug who know wants us to all believe that butter wouldn't melt in his mouth...both make me want to dry retch..

 

[LegendLewis]

a hawthorn link...sounds interesting

THE NATIONWIDE shortage of draft-quality talls could play into the hands of Claremont bolter Oliver Eastland.

The athletic 198cm big man has registered on AFL club radars in 2018 after rising from relative obscurity to hold down a No.1 ruck role in his first full season at WAFL level.

Adelaide appears Eastland's brightest hope in next week's national and rookie drafts, with the Crows potentially looking to replenish their tall stocks.

Primarily a key forward, Eastland added another string to his bow this year after the Tigers grappled with their own ruck shortfall.

Thrown "to the wolves" in round four against the WAFL's premier big man, Subiaco's Zac Clarke, Eastland's natural competitiveness came to the fore.

The 20-year-old tailed the ex-Docker around Leederville Oval and tallied more disposals (20 to 15) and marks (7-4) than Clarke.

Although the soon-to-be resurrected AFL player had a narrow edge in hit-outs (21-18) and booted two goals, the marquee Thursday night clash was the making of Eastland as a ruckman.

"We just thought Zac Clarke, the way he moves around the ground, we just need someone a bit mobile to go with him, and threw him (Eastland) to the wolves, so to speak, and he was just exceptional that day," Claremont football manager Kepler Bradley told AFL.com.au.

"He certainly matched it with him in his first game in the ruck and we thought, 'Wow'.

"He might be a bit undersized but the way he competes and the way he goes about it really held him in good stead and he was outstanding for us.

"I think he got a couple of Sandover (Medal) votes and never looked back from then."

Hawthorn has monitored Eastland, but it is understood Adelaide has kept close tabs on the Scotch College product since early in the season.

The Crows are tested for ruck depth behind Sam Jacobs (31 next April), while pinch-hitter Josh Jenkins turns 30 in February.

Raw 202cm tall Reilly O'Brien is Adelaide's succession plan for Jacobs, while Elliott Himmelberg, who is the same size as Eastland but eight kilograms heavier at 94kg, debuted in round 23.

The Crows are keeping their options open after delisting back-up tall Harry Dear and untried ruckman Paul Hunter, who they might redraft, and losing versatile forward Mitch McGovern to Carlton.

Bradley, the ex-Bomber and Docker, coached Eastland at reserves level and has seen enough to think he would blossom as a forward-ruck if a club gives him a chance.

"(The ruck shortage) certainly gives him hope," Bradley said.

"I don't see a lot of big guys around who read it the way he does. On top of that he's got the agility and ability to cover the ground, and he just gets to contests.

"The way he competes … he rarely gets beaten. His second, third effort for a big bloke is outstanding. His skills are just a bonus – his kicking is pretty good for a big fella.

"In the longer term, he'd be a centre half-forward and go really, really well.

"In terms of his personality, he gets a big tick there. He actually doesn't realise how good he is and how well he plays his role in the team.

"He's just a kid who rocks up, plays footy and tries his hardest."

Eastland likens his playing style to West Coast premiership tall Nathan Vardy, and averaged 15.5 disposals, four marks and 28 hit-outs in 15 League games this year.

He was invited to the WA draft combine – where he produced respectable Yo-Yo (20.4), 20m sprint (3.05 seconds) and agility (8.44 seconds) test efforts – and credited a spike in interest from recruiters to his greater maturity and understanding of his body.

"I've grown late, so since I've gotten bigger I've really adapted," Eastland told AFL.com.au.

"I probably wasn't the best player going around. I just got into the Colts 22 (at Claremont) and played every game that year (2016), but was never exceptional.

"I thought a big pre-season this year really helped me, just a lot more gym, really focused on that and got my speed up a bit more.

"I'm a lot stronger and now I can match it with the bigger bodies.

"It would mean a lot (to be drafted). Every kid dreams of it.

"I've put in the work and if it comes through I'll be pretty happy, but if not I'll go back to Claremont and work my butt off."

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

a hawthorn link...sounds interesting

THE NATIONWIDE shortage of draft-quality talls could play into the hands of Claremont bolter Oliver Eastland.

The athletic 198cm big man has registered on AFL club radars in 2018 after rising from relative obscurity to hold down a No.1 ruck role in his first full season at WAFL level.

Adelaide appears Eastland's brightest hope in next week's national and rookie drafts, with the Crows potentially looking to replenish their tall stocks.

Primarily a key forward, Eastland added another string to his bow this year after the Tigers grappled with their own ruck shortfall.

Thrown "to the wolves" in round four against the WAFL's premier big man, Subiaco's Zac Clarke, Eastland's natural competitiveness came to the fore.

The 20-year-old tailed the ex-Docker around Leederville Oval and tallied more disposals (20 to 15) and marks (7-4) than Clarke.

Although the soon-to-be resurrected AFL player had a narrow edge in hit-outs (21-18) and booted two goals, the marquee Thursday night clash was the making of Eastland as a ruckman.

"We just thought Zac Clarke, the way he moves around the ground, we just need someone a bit mobile to go with him, and threw him (Eastland) to the wolves, so to speak, and he was just exceptional that day," Claremont football manager Kepler Bradley told AFL.com.au.

"He certainly matched it with him in his first game in the ruck and we thought, 'Wow'.

"He might be a bit undersized but the way he competes and the way he goes about it really held him in good stead and he was outstanding for us.

"I think he got a couple of Sandover (Medal) votes and never looked back from then."

Hawthorn has monitored Eastland, but it is understood Adelaide has kept close tabs on the Scotch College product since early in the season.

The Crows are tested for ruck depth behind Sam Jacobs (31 next April), while pinch-hitter Josh Jenkins turns 30 in February.

Raw 202cm tall Reilly O'Brien is Adelaide's succession plan for Jacobs, while Elliott Himmelberg, who is the same size as Eastland but eight kilograms heavier at 94kg, debuted in round 23.

The Crows are keeping their options open after delisting back-up tall Harry Dear and untried ruckman Paul Hunter, who they might redraft, and losing versatile forward Mitch McGovern to Carlton.

Bradley, the ex-Bomber and Docker, coached Eastland at reserves level and has seen enough to think he would blossom as a forward-ruck if a club gives him a chance.

"(The ruck shortage) certainly gives him hope," Bradley said.

"I don't see a lot of big guys around who read it the way he does. On top of that he's got the agility and ability to cover the ground, and he just gets to contests.

"The way he competes … he rarely gets beaten. His second, third effort for a big bloke is outstanding. His skills are just a bonus – his kicking is pretty good for a big fella.

"In the longer term, he'd be a centre half-forward and go really, really well.

"In terms of his personality, he gets a big tick there. He actually doesn't realise how good he is and how well he plays his role in the team.

"He's just a kid who rocks up, plays footy and tries his hardest."

Eastland likens his playing style to West Coast premiership tall Nathan Vardy, and averaged 15.5 disposals, four marks and 28 hit-outs in 15 League games this year.

He was invited to the WA draft combine – where he produced respectable Yo-Yo (20.4), 20m sprint (3.05 seconds) and agility (8.44 seconds) test efforts – and credited a spike in interest from recruiters to his greater maturity and understanding of his body.

"I've grown late, so since I've gotten bigger I've really adapted," Eastland told AFL.com.au.

"I probably wasn't the best player going around. I just got into the Colts 22 (at Claremont) and played every game that year (2016), but was never exceptional.

"I thought a big pre-season this year really helped me, just a lot more gym, really focused on that and got my speed up a bit more.

"I'm a lot stronger and now I can match it with the bigger bodies.

"It would mean a lot (to be drafted). Every kid dreams of it.

"I've put in the work and if it comes through I'll be pretty happy, but if not I'll go back to Claremont and work my butt off."

Does anyone know if he can play as a key forward too?

 

[Mitchell54]

Does anyone know if he can play as a key forward too?

"In the longer term, he'd be a centre half-forward and go really, really well.

 

[Brant]

Does anyone know if he can play as a key forward too?

Kepler Bradley suggests within, that he'll end up a CHF

 

[Bremner20]

Great idea but from what I've been reading Jordan Clark irrespective of illness is still likely to be drafted in the top 20.

Bailey Williams would be nice to have and likely to be selected prior to the hawks pick.

As for the 1st pick if a taller bull of a mid is available that would be great if not than go for the hawks weakness KPP.

Gippy boys Noah Gown and Kyle Reid maybe a possibility, although Gown is more like a Gunston type, still good to have.
These type of boys would go well with a teammate in Mozzie who may have a bid in the main draft or rookie him.

Kyle Reid tall red head from Leongatha sounds good .

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

We need a Surman replacement

 

[Dewnior]

Kyle Reid tall red head from Leongatha sounds good .

Well, the last redhead we got from Leongatha turned out ok. The only worry is we are already over our quota of gingers.

 

[Dewnior]

We need a Surman replacement

Sure man, who do you suggest we go for?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Sure man, who do you suggest we go for?

Mr Eastland seems a likely candidate.

 

[Rocket72]

Lots of people calling for a tall, preferably ready to play. I've got the answer. I've said this a few times before and I note that others have too.

Jonathon Marsh. I recall really liking him out of his draft and early in his time at Collingwood, check here for some pre-draft footage:



and here for highlights from a single good game he played at the Pies:



His last ten matches were pretty tidy at East Fremantle, see: http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/4892

As an added bonus, he can kick the ball a long way, check this recent footage of him playing in WA (2017):



Why did a retire from Collingwood? Mental health issues, which he has now sorted.

Verdict:
Good judgement in the air, long kick, can play multiple positions (including forward) and has sorted the problems he had while at Collingwood. Worth at least a rookie. Probably an upgrade on some tall key position players we have right now.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Lots of people calling for a tall, preferably ready to play. I've got the answer. I've said this a few times before and I note that others have too.

Jonathon Marsh. I recall really liking him out of his draft and early in his time at Collingwood, check here for some pre-draft footage:



and here for highlights from a single good game he played at the Pies:



His last ten matches were pretty tidy at East Fremantle, see: http://www.wafl.com.au/players/view/4892

As an added bonus, he can kick the ball a long way, check this recent footage of him playing in WA (2017):



Why did a retire from Collingwood? Mental health issues, which he has now sorted.

Verdict:
Good judgement in the air, long kick, can play multiple positions (including forward) and has sorted the problems he had while at Collingwood. Worth at least a rookie. Probably an upgrade on some tall key position players we have right now.

Not too shabby at all. I do wonder if he feels he is ready to play interstate again if he would feel obliged to return to Collingwood if they had done the right things by him when he departed.

 

[Rocket72]

Not too shabby at all. I do wonder if he feels he is ready to play interstate again if he would feel obliged to return to Collingwood if they had done the right things by him when he departed.

There's been surprisingly little interest in him (there might be a reason for that).

He claims to be ready for another tilt. He could have insisted on a WA club only, but he's saying he'll go anywhere. Given my background in mental health, I have to say that there is absolutely no reason to expect that he would come across the same problems as he did in the past.