List Mgmt. List Management 2023-24

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If you look through recent drafts, there is a major lack of tall talent coming through. It just seems alot easier to draft smalls and trade for talls. Its not just a port issue.
 
English, 26, is a big name in the free agency pool, with AFL.com.au compiling the full club-by-club list of 116 free agents ahead of the season.

Brisbane pair Hugh McCluggage and Jarrod Berry, Gold Coast's Ben Ainsworth, Hawthorn's Blake Hardwick, Port Adelaide forward Todd Marshall, Sydney duo Ollie Florent and Will Hayward, Bomber Andrew McGrath and North Melbourne goalkicker Cam Zurhaar are among the first-time free agents in the group this year.
Geelong has the most free agents ahead of the season, with 13 Cats qualifying, including captain Patrick Dangerfield, defenders Jack Henry and Jake Kolodjashnij and veterans Mitch Duncan and Tom Hawkins.
Gold Coast also has a big group of free agents, with No.4 pick Ainsworth the top of the group as well as Darcy Macpherson and former captain Jarrod Witts and Richmond dual premiership player Brandon Ellis, who qualifies under the 'free agent for life' rule given he crossed to the Suns as a free agent in 2019.

Melbourne's Adam Tomlinson and Essendon's Jake Kelly are in the same bracket, while the likes of Geelong's Tyson Stengle, Hawthorn's Chad Wingard and Carlton's Jack Martin are all among the free agents who are eligible due to having been delisted at a stage of their careers.
Dustin Martin is one of nine free agents at Richmond, alongside premiership teammates Jack Graham, Dion Prestia, Dylan Grimes, Kamdyn McIntosh and Toby Nankervis, while St Kilda tall Josh Battle is one of eight free agents at the Saints.

Current or former skippers Dangerfield, Witts, Nankervis, Liam Duggan, Rory Sloane, Taylor Walker, Dayne Zorko, Scott Pendlebury, Dyson Heppell, Callan Ward and Travis Boak all qualify as free agents.
With the 2016 draft crop hitting free agency status, the likes of English, McCluggage, Ainsworth and McGrath will all be among the group of restricted free agents who qualify as players entering their eighth or ninth seasons who are in the top 25 per cent of their club's earners.


Travis Boak
Charlie Dixon
Francis Evans*
Trent McKenzie*
Todd Marshall
Quinton Narkle*
 
Didn't we extend Todd Marshall's contract in December?
 

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Hugh McCluggage, please and thankyou.
 
Wonder if we’ll have a look at Stengle?

Harry Perryman is a very good and versatile footballer. Would love him at Port.
 
State of play: The Port Adelaide list management team were certainly made to earn their salaries in recent months, ultimately getting all of their desired deals across the line then re-signing the likes of Zak Butters and Connor Rozee. Now the question is more about whether the acquisitions can genuinely help them bridge the gap between a top four finish and a Grand Final appearance. The list management team have done their job, now it’s over to Ken Hinkley and company to make it work. Butters and Rozee’s signatures have given them a fair bit of breathing room.

Biggest free agency priorities:Todd Marshall was looming as the free agent to watch, but multiple reports last month indicated he’s highly likely to re-sign with the club. Whether that’s done well ahead of time to put any scuttlebutt to bed, or he waits until later in the year in a bid to prove his worth with a big season, remains to be seen. Either way, until he puts pen to paper, rival clubs are sure to come hard for the key forward.

Biggest contract priorities: As mentioned above, signing Butters and Rozee to long-term deals has gotten a couple of big dominoes to fall. Aliir Aliir will come out of contract, but he loves being a Port Adelaide player. There’s a strong chance he recaptures his best form this year too, considering recruits Esava Ratugolea and Brandon Zerk-Thatcher should free him up to play as a third tall defender. Miles Bergman isn’t off-contract until the end of next year, but had a breakout season in 2023 and his stocks could well rise again this year.
 
Todd Marshall is interesting.

Not because there’s any chance of him leaving but more so how highly he’s rated by other clubs when they throw offers at him.
 

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Does anybody know how much input Mr Hinkley has over list management? I had a conversation earlier with a fan from another club that insisted it's not Hinkley's fault as we don't have the cattle. He doesn't draft the players or contribute to list management decisions.
 
Does anybody know how much input Mr Hinkley has over list management? I had a conversation earlier with a fan from another club that insisted it's not Hinkley's fault as we don't have the cattle. He doesn't draft the players or contribute to list management decisions.
Walk away from those conversations it's easier to breathe.
 
Does anybody know how much input Mr Hinkley has over list management? I had a conversation earlier with a fan from another club that insisted it's not Hinkley's fault as we don't have the cattle. He doesn't draft the players or contribute to list management decisions.
Almost half a starting 18 of AAs and it'd probably be more if he wasn't obsessed with playing some of the least valuable players in history in positions we're flushed for depth in.
 
Does anybody know how much input Mr Hinkley has over list management? I had a conversation earlier with a fan from another club that insisted it's not Hinkley's fault as we don't have the cattle. He doesn't draft the players or contribute to list management decisions.
Follow JimmyBC's advice ... It will also save you on lost brain cells!
 
The cattle seems fine during the minor rounds.


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I think this is a myth we’ve been telling ourselves. Our cattle has never matched it against the best teams which I think has mainly been due to not investing in quality defenders for a decade or our rucks for large periods.

The question is whether this is the coaches doing or the list management team though. Who ever it is though has done a piss poor job.

Only have to look at the stats which say even when we play finals, during those years we have never matched the top teams and haven’t had the cattle across all parts of the ground.
 
I think this is a myth we’ve been telling ourselves. Our cattle has never matched it against the best teams which I think has mainly been due to not investing in quality defenders for a decade or our rucks for large periods.

The question is whether this is the coaches doing or the list management team though. Who ever it is though has done a piss poor job.

Only have to look at the stats which say even when we play finals, during those years we have never matched the top teams and haven’t had the cattle across all parts of the ground.

Bullshit. Every team who has beaten us in finals since and including 2014 had been beaten by us the previous time we had played them. All except the Eagles were beaten by us the next time we played them. It's a nonsense narrative.
 
Bullshit. Every team who has beaten us in finals since and including 2014 had been beaten by us the previous time we had played them. All except the Eagles were beaten by us the next time we played them. It's a nonsense narrative.

And every team we played in finals that we won, we lost to the previous time we played them in the home and away season.

Strap yourself in for this theory right here, mate:

If Melbourne didn't choke 8th spot in monumental fashion, we win the 2017 flag under this method.

  • We would have played Melbourne in the Elimination Final, who we lost to the last time we played them
  • Then we would have met GWS in the Semi Final, who we lost to the last time we played them
  • Then we would have met Richmond in the Preliminary Final, who we lost to the last time we played them
  • Then we would have met Adelaide in the Grand Final, who we lost to the last time we played them

But instead, we copped West Coast in the Elimination Final...who we beat the last time we played them.

 
Billy Frampton lol
 

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