List Mgmt. List Management Discussion for 2022

[Ned Ryerson]

If anyone offers us a top 30 pick for Mitchell, Jaeger, Chad or Gunston that should immediately be taken.

 

[Pinoy Hawk]

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But wouldn’t Brisbane have to trade for him given the mcstay compo?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

But wouldn’t Brisbane have to trade for him given the mcstay compo?

They wouldn’t give us a top 30 pick when they need points for two f/s bids.

 

[Brishawk]

They wouldn’t give us a top 30 pick when they need points for two f/s bids.

Fine, I’ll accept clugga but they will owe us

 

[WWSD]

watching the ball constantly waltz out of our forward line is incredibly frustrating - we really need someone who can apply some forward pressure

There’s a reason why Schultz, Wicks, Adduci and the other guy were players of interest last off-season. I expect to see small forwards to be on the agenda again this year during the trade period.

 

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be good pick up at Boxhillhawks

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[TheFourPillars]

Why? Chad’s the 1st one I would move. Has done bugger all since we recruited him - shown flashes but been injured most of the time. He’s not the kind of player you need in a rebuild- more the cherry on top for a contending side…

I actually think we missed a trick not moving him last year when GWS were showing interest…

You CANT force a contracted player to be traded. We had no tricks to be played

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Ben Cavarra be good pick up at Boxhillhawks

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No

 

[RoughysMullet]

You CANT force a contracted player to be traded. We had no tricks to be played

You can and the club has done it before - was a major factor in our last 4 premierships

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

You can and the club has done it before - was a major factor in our last 4 premierships

That was over 20 years ago. Things have changed.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

You can and the club has done it before - was a major factor in our last 4 premierships

Not a good look for attracting future free agents.

 

[TheFourPillars]

You can and the club has done it before - was a major factor in our last 4 premierships

Not a good look for attracting future free agents.

Exactly but not just free agents but also keeping the current players on the list.

 

[Billyc]

You can and the club has done it before - was a major factor in our last 4 premierships

You can sack someone and pay out their contract but you can't force a player to go to a specific club in exchange for a specific deal. You can make life unpleasant for them if they don't agree (as Collingwood did with Treloar) but you can't force them. Wingard made it clear he wasn't going to agree to go to GWS, so that was that.

 

[Hawthorn2023]

Ok, so here we are..Round 23.

My initial end of season list management..

Trades - T.Mitchell, Brockman*

Delistings - Hartigan, Howe, Shiels, Downie

Retirements - Big Boy

We had 11 changes at the end of 2021.

Do we keep the core and continue developing them at Box Hill?


*reluctantly

 

[Brant]

You can sack someone and pay out their contract but you can't force a player to go to a specific club in exchange for a specific deal. You can make life unpleasant for them if they don't agree (as Collingwood did with Treloar) but you can't force them. Wingard made it clear he wasn't going to agree to go to GWS, so that was that.

And to emphasize your point, doing that to them, in front of their mates & with a whole league (& Continent) watching, is pretty bad drills.

 

[RoughysMullet]

What were we meant to do? Kidnap and fold him up into a post pack?

Nup - just tell him we want to trade him would’ve done just fine

 

[RoughysMullet]

That was over 20 years ago. Things have changed.

Ryan Burton says hello

 

[KermitJagger]

Ryan Burton says hello

It was confirmed that Port initially asked the question about Burton, and when it was brought up to him he cracked the sads.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Ryan Burton says hello

No, he says “mummy can you tuck me in, please”.

 

[Rocket72]

Ok, so here we are..Round 23.

My initial end of season list management..

Trades - T.Mitchell, Brockman*

Delistings - Hartigan, Howe, Shiels, Downie

Retirements - Big Boy

We had 11 changes at the end of 2021.

Do we keep the core and continue developing them at Box Hill?


*reluctantly

Downie has had an injury interupted season, seems a bit premature to me. Think the rest is spot on.

 

[Rowie6]

Ok, so here we are..Round 23.

My initial end of season list management..

Trades - T.Mitchell, Brockman*

Delistings - Hartigan, Howe, Shiels, Downie

Retirements - Big Boy

We had 11 changes at the end of 2021.

Do we keep the core and continue developing them at Box Hill?


*reluctantly

I think Phillips is on shaky ground aswell and the question is whether Wingard could be trade able.
Hopefully there is no truth in Brisbane’s interest in Gunners.
His and Bruesty’s football smarts are invaluable to our younger group going forward!


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[Rocket72]

Yep. I keep seeing ‘get 2 mids and we’ll be right’. Take Gunston and Breust out of our forward line (and chad as well) - which is a reality in next 2-3 years (or less) - and it looks pretty grim. It’s not just the goals kicked and score involvements it’s also the level of opposition attention they get. We need to fix the midfield but forward line also needs serious work.

and the backline, don't forget that.

 

[Rocket72]

I think Phillips is on shaky ground aswell and the question is whether Wingard could be trade able.
Hopefully there is no truth in Brisbane’s interest in Gunners.
His and Bruesty’s football smarts are invaluable to our younger group going forward!


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You gotta give his new haircut time, looks like a different player now.

 

[fairdinks]

Ok, so here we are..Round 23.

My initial end of season list management..

Trades - T.Mitchell, Brockman*

Delistings - Hartigan, Howe, Shiels, Downie

Retirements - Big Boy

We had 11 changes at the end of 2021.

Do we keep the core and continue developing them at Box Hill?


*reluctantly

Similar thoughts H23:

Callow and Mitchell may stay depending on who or what we can get to replace them.

I am not sure we get anything more than mid 2nd for Mitch TBH. Anything worse than pick 24, we may keep. Of course he may not wish to go as he is still contracted.

Callow may depend on what other options we see as a tall backup. I wouldn't mind keeping for a further year to se how he develops.

Really hoping Brockman wants to stay and Phillips is capable depth in an age bracket we are short. One more year for Seamus Mitchell to see if he can reach his potential injury free. Last chance though

	OUT		IN	PICK		Result
1	mcevoy	Retired	rnd 1	7		Tsatsas
2	sheils	Retired/DFA	rnd 2	26		forward
3	hartigan	Retired	rnd 3	50	coll	small
4	howe	Delisted FA	lawrence	72	FS	tall
5	downie	Delisted	amon	FA		mid
6	callow	Delisted	? Ruck	DFA		Back up Ruck
7	mitchell	Traded	Future 2nd	NA		or a pick upgrade 22