Preview Rnd 11: Collingwood vs Geelong Sat May 29 1:45pm @ MCG

[Jhye Clark 13]

I'd rather Fort in the side than Sav. He's a reliable kick for goal.

 

[Nankervis brothers]

That’s just semantics. It’s still dropped.

what is with the wokeness here today, we can’t even say players are dropped now cos it might hurt their feelings.

if you have a week off or two and don’t play and then come back into the team you could maybe say they are Managed. If you are relegated to sub For multiple games or go down to the magoos for a couple then you are dropped. If you don’t play firsts for 7 weeks then you are dropped.

Wokeness? Lol. Get your hand off it, petal.

 

[cats_09]

All Eyes On… 50 for Lukey Dahl
The energetic former Leopold Lion will play game number 50 in the hoops this weekend since crossing from the Western Bulldogs ahead of the 2019 season.

He’s the ultimate team man, Dahl, and his teammates love him for it as this video shows, and that’s playing out on the stats sheet this season where he has been elite in team first-metrics like forward pressure, where he ranks #2 at the Cats this season.

In his time at Whitten Oval, the 28-year-old played predominantly as an in and under midfielder who swung forward, whereas at the Cattery he’s settled into a high half-forward role. His energy and attack on the footy is contagious and these numbers highlight his value.

- #2 for FWD Half pressure
- #6 for pressure
- #3 for F50 tackles
- #6 for creating a turnover that results in score
- #2 for IN50 kick retention

It’s not a traditional milestone, but well worth a tip of the hat. Go well, Lukey.

 

[Gunf]

All Eyes On… 50 for Lukey Dahl
The energetic former Leopold Lion will play game number 50 in the hoops this weekend since crossing from the Western Bulldogs ahead of the 2019 season.

He’s the ultimate team man, Dahl, and his teammates love him for it as this video shows, and that’s playing out on the stats sheet this season where he has been elite in team first-metrics like forward pressure, where he ranks #2 at the Cats this season.

In his time at Whitten Oval, the 28-year-old played predominantly as an in and under midfielder who swung forward, whereas at the Cattery he’s settled into a high half-forward role. His energy and attack on the footy is contagious and these numbers highlight his value.

- #2 for FWD Half pressure
- #6 for pressure
- #3 for F50 tackles
- #6 for creating a turnover that results in score
- #2 for IN50 kick retention

It’s not a traditional milestone, but well worth a tip of the hat. Go well, Lukey.

What do you know he isn't completely s**t like some say

 

[you pick one]

Fort replaces Constable as emergency. What sorcery is this??

The old early late change 86.

 

[allrighty]

Stats can also be completely wrong.

Just because someone gets a lot of the ball doesn't mean they were excellent, good, bad or ugly.

E.g a player gets 34 posies but handballs all of them to the opposition.

I give you Tom Mitchell

 

[Grimoz]

What's her name?

Joffa

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

I can see this game being low scoring and boring. The score line will read something like 55-42

 

[Pollywaffle]

What do you know he isn't completely sh*t like some say

Ranked first for time spent horizontal and second for least number of jam tins kicked over

 

[allrighty]

I'd rather Fort in the side than Sav. He's a reliable kick for goal.

From what I have seen in the two's Fort has been killing it, looks fit and bigger too. Should have given him a run last week I reckon.

Sav just needs to let his balls drop properly

 

[Gunf]

From what I have seen in the two's Fort has been killing it, looks fit and bigger too. Should have given him a run last week I reckon.

Sav just needs to let his balls drop properly

I read that in a much different way then intended i am sure

 

[Ratcat]

I know Fort's been going well & was BOG last week, but didn't think he got close to 34 disposals

From the VFL write up

Best: Fort, Constable, McLachlan, Kreuger, Brownless, Thurlow

Fort looks a different proposition this year and definitely has earnt his spot.

 

[Seeds]

All Eyes On… 50 for Lukey Dahl
The energetic former Leopold Lion will play game number 50 in the hoops this weekend since crossing from the Western Bulldogs ahead of the 2019 season.

He’s the ultimate team man, Dahl, and his teammates love him for it as this video shows, and that’s playing out on the stats sheet this season where he has been elite in team first-metrics like forward pressure, where he ranks #2 at the Cats this season.

In his time at Whitten Oval, the 28-year-old played predominantly as an in and under midfielder who swung forward, whereas at the Cattery he’s settled into a high half-forward role. His energy and attack on the footy is contagious and these numbers highlight his value.

- #2 for FWD Half pressure
- #6 for pressure
- #3 for F50 tackles
- #6 for creating a turnover that results in score
- #2 for IN50 kick retention

It’s not a traditional milestone, but well worth a tip of the hat. Go well, Lukey.

Are t those supposed to be his specialities? Yet he is not first out of any of them out of 6. That would be like hawkins being our 3rd best foward at marks and goals.

plus dalhaus has played more games then his competitors. miers, close, Higgins all have missed far more games. How is dalhaus not number 1 in all these foward stats?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

From what I have seen in the two's Fort has been killing it, looks fit and bigger too. Should have given him a run last week I reckon.

Sav just needs to let his balls drop properly

That'll come when he hits puberty.

 

[cats_09]

Are t those supposed to be his specialities? Yet he is not first out of any of them out of 6. That would be like hawkins being our 3rd best foward at marks and goals.

plus dalhaus has played more games then his competitors. miers, close, Higgins all have missed far more games. How is dalhaus not number 1 in all these foward stats?

Can I ask where you get 6 from and what does 6 refer to?

It appears to be team rankings, and where he compares to the rest of his teammates

And what would be so bad about Hawkins being our 3rd best forward? If we had 2 other forwards out performing him, while he's still going at 2.2 goals & 1.2 goal assists per game, then that's a pretty impressive forward line

 

[Seeds]

Can I ask where you get 6 from and what does 6 refer to?

It appears to be team rankings, and where he compares to the rest of his teammates

And what would be so bad about Hawkins being our 3rd best forward? If we had 2 other forwards out performing him, while he's still going at 2.2 goals & 1.2 goal assists per game, then that's a pretty impressive forward line

They are mostly foward stats. The only players who are going to be in the top of those are thé fowards.

who are our fowards. Hawkins, Cameron, Rohan, Higgins, miers, close and dalhaus.

games
Dalhaus 9
miers 7
close 7
higgins 5
rohan 8
hawkins 10
cameron 6

how thé hell is dalhaus not winning atleast 3 of those fowards stats? The only one who has played comparable games is hawkins and he ain’t in there for defensive pressure.

 

[Gunf]

They are mostly foward stats. The only players who are going to be in the top of those are thé fowards.

who are our fowards. Hawkins, Cameron, Rohan, Higgins, miers, close and dalhaus.

games
Dalhaus 9
miers 7
close 7
higgins 5
rohan 8
hawkins 10
cameron 6

how thé hell is dalhaus not winning atleast 3 of those fowards stats? The only one who has played comparable games is hawkins and he ain’t in there for defensive pressure.

How do you know he isn't in front of most of the names you have listed and some mids are in front of him ala Parfitt?

 

[Spazz Cat]

I'll put it to you that Cam Guthrie doesn't hurt sides either and is never tagged by the opposition for that reason but is loved by the club and majority of supporters.

I sort of agree. He is really good and his running power is amazing, but you can halve his possession count most weeks.
He runs past for the handball from the player who took the mark and just kicks it to the free player the original player was going to kick to anyway! Pointless.
Not to mention the stat padding in the back half.

 

[catempire]

I sort of agree. He is really good and his running power is amazing, but you can halve his possession count most weeks.
He runs past for the handball from the player who took the mark and just kicks it to the free player the original player was going to kick to anyway! Pointless.
Not to mention the stat padding in the back half.

You must enjoy highlights of 1970s footy.

 

[cats_09]

They are mostly foward stats. The only players who are going to be in the top of those are thé fowards.

who are our fowards. Hawkins, Cameron, Rohan, Higgins, miers, close and dalhaus.

games
Dalhaus 9
miers 7
close 7
higgins 5
rohan 8
hawkins 10
cameron 6

how thé hell is dalhaus not winning atleast 3 of those fowards stats? The only one who has played comparable games is hawkins and he ain’t in there for defensive pressure.

That's pretty simple:
- the ranking is based on season average, not season totals so therefore accounts for different number of games played
- it's full team stats, not isolated to the forwards (and Higgins is part of the midfield group, not the forwards)
- only 1 of the stats is specific to one's actions inside the forward 50


#2 for FWD Half pressure - this covers half the ground, and midfielders tend to also play in the forward half of the ground

#6 for pressure - pretty sure that players across all roles, and playing all positions are expected to apply pressure

#3 for F50 tackles - this is a good one for the forwards - Close is #1 & Hawkins #2, and the guy in #4 is Cam Guthrie. So a good one for the forwards, but doesn't exclude the midfielders who work forward

#6 for creating a turnover that results in score - doesn't specify a turnover inside 50. Besides, turnovers can be created anywhere across the ground and good teams punish the opposition on turnovers

#2 for IN50 kick retention - this one I would normally relate with midfielders as it's referencing the player kicking inside 50 and not the player already inside 50 when disposing of the ball

 

[Spazz Cat]

You must enjoy highlights of 1970s footy.

Probably would if there's any in colour.

 

[Spazz Cat]

All Eyes On… 50 for Lukey Dahl
The energetic former Leopold Lion will play game number 50 in the hoops this weekend since crossing from the Western Bulldogs ahead of the 2019 season.

He’s the ultimate team man, Dahl, and his teammates love him for it as this video shows, and that’s playing out on the stats sheet this season where he has been elite in team first-metrics like forward pressure, where he ranks #2 at the Cats this season.

In his time at Whitten Oval, the 28-year-old played predominantly as an in and under midfielder who swung forward, whereas at the Cattery he’s settled into a high half-forward role. His energy and attack on the footy is contagious and these numbers highlight his value.

- #2 for FWD Half pressure
- #6 for pressure
- #3 for F50 tackles
- #6 for creating a turnover that results in score
- #2 for IN50 kick retention

It’s not a traditional milestone, but well worth a tip of the hat. Go well, Lukey.

That's pretty shithouse if it's only out of Geelong players.
Cause he doesn't do many actual things.
They were the best possible stats they could find to pump him up?

 

[Down at K Park]

What do you know he isn't completely sh*t like some say

If only he could kick goals. Like other small forwards do. Then we would have a complete player. It’s the one area that really lets him down. He hardly ever scores.

 

[cats_09]

That's pretty shithouse if it's only out of Geelong players.
Cause he doesn't do many actual things.
They were the best possible stats they could find to pump him up?

So having only 1 teammate apply more pressure in the forward half and only 5 teammates apply more pressure over all is shithouse?

If he's role is playing across the high half forward as a pressure player, then that's exactly what he's doing

If he's ranking was down at #10 across those stats then I agree we should be asking questions about his role, but from the look of the numbers he's high up in the rankings in regards to team first metrics and that's why he's retaining his role

Will he continue to hold his spot as others return from injury - not sure, but right now he's doing the team things well and that's why he's playing game #50 in the hoops tomorrow

 

[cats_09]

If only he could kick goals. Like other small forwards do. Then we would have a complete player. It’s the one area that really lets him down. He hardly ever scores.

This I agree with, and could be why he loses his spot as others return and if we don't have further injury concerns