The great blackout of 2016

[brucetiki]

Elite Crow

Here's your chance to fix the SA Power disaster, perhaps you can get your mate brucetiki to reserve you a seat?

I'll be too busy cheering on the Crow ladies to attend

 

[Bicks]

I'll be too busy cheering on the Crow ladies to attend

What!?
And forego the chance to partake in some of Sarah Sea Patrol's wisdom?

I'm ever so disappointed in you...

 

[Elite Crow]

Elite Crow

Here's your chance to fix the SA Power disaster, perhaps you can get your mate brucetiki to reserve you a seat?

I wonder if she is going to take a boat there

 

[Bicks]

I wonder if she is going to take a boat there

I'll piss myself laughing if there's a blackout in Adelaide Sunday night to coincide with the event...actually I'm praying there is LOL

 

[Elite Crow]

I'll piss myself laughing if there's a blackout in Adelaide Sunday night to coincide with the event...actually I'm praying there is LOL

It will be her own earth hour.

So will she walk to the event or take public transport or will she drive?

 

[Bicks]

It will be her own earth hour.

So will she walk to the event or take public transport or will she drive?

Probably get a Government chauffeur and a Government vehicle and claim it as a legitimate Political expense..

 

[Elite Crow]

Probably get a Government chauffeur and a Government vehicle and claim it as a legitimate Political expense..

Her and Adam will get one each.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Elite Crow

Here's your chance to fix the SA Power disaster, perhaps you can get your mate brucetiki to reserve you a seat?

Please tell me that's a joke?

 

[Bicks]

Please tell me that's a joke?

Wish it was, check the Greens website..

 

[Bicks]

Typical ALP and Shorten...NFI either how they would implement their "pie in the sky" renewables policy and even more frightening....how much it would cost and how it would effect consumers electricity bills...

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...out&utm_term=213308&subid=9668649&CMP=ema_632

Shorten fails to specify cost of Labor's renewables policy when asked four times
Labor’s goal is to have 50% of electricity from renewables by 2030, but asked about the cost, he replies ‘there is a cost in not acting’

Bill Shorten has declined to be specific about the cost of Labor’s goal to have 50% of Australia’s electricity generated from renewable sources by 2030.

In an early morning radio interview on Wednesday, Shorten was asked four times about the cost to consumers of executing such a transition, but the Labor leader deflected, pointing to the costs of not acting.

Pressed again on the costs, Shorten declined any specifics, and said “there is a cost in not acting”.

“Our answer is very, very straightforward. We think the cost of not acting is far greater.”

 

[Vader]

I think you're both right... You're correct in that Shorten really should have some idea of how much his policy would cost. Shorten is also right, in that the cost of doing nothing is likely to be far, far, higher.

 

[Bicks]

There you go the myth of Wind Power being a reliable energy source especially in times of heavy power usage once again blown to the sheizzen Houssen...Wind and solar crashed.

AEMO detailed report on the 08/02/2017 SA black outs.

https://www.aemo.com.au/-/media/Fil...nt-Report-South-Australia-8-February-2017.pdf

 

[DD#23]

lets put two and two together:

There you go the myth of Wind Power being a reliable energy source especially in times of heavy power usage once again blown to the sheizzen Houssen...Wind and solar crashed.

AEMO detailed report on the 08/02/2017 SA black outs.

https://www.aemo.com.au/-/media/Fil...nt-Report-South-Australia-8-February-2017.pdf

so wind turbines providing around 4% of NSW power, Coal 70% and SA appear to be on one quarter to one third wind.

so in the aemo link it says SA had to shed 100MW for 27 minutes on the 8th, which is why some areas lost power. NSW were planning to shed 290MW for an hour....

"On Thursday, the AEMO warned of possible "load shedding events" like the ones in South Australia the day before, which saw power to 90,000 homes cut in Adelaide to protect a struggling power network.

On Friday the AEMO confirmed that forced blackouts had not been required because residents had followed advice to reduce their electricity usage during the peak demand periods between 4.30pm and 6.30pm."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-10/nsw-power:-blackouts-across-the-state-averted/8260830

it would seem that under peak demands even coal is vulnerable...

in saying that though it shouldn't take a rocket science to realise that demand for power is highest when its hot - and its hottest when there are no clouds and no wind.

 

[Vader]

in saying that though it shouldn't take a rocket science to realise that demand for power is highest when its hot - and its hottest when there are no clouds and no wind.

No clouds, and a howling northerly (in SA & Vic).

 

[Elite Crow]

I think you're both right... You're correct in that Shorten really should have some idea of how much his policy would cost. Shorten is also right, in that the cost of doing nothing is likely to be far, far, higher.

So if Australia does nothing what is the cost exactly?

 

[Elite Crow]

Typical ALP and Shorten...NFI either how they would implement their "pie in the sky" renewables policy and even more frightening....how much it would cost and how it would effect consumers electricity bills...

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...out&utm_term=213308&subid=9668649&CMP=ema_632

This will cost them the election, have they learnt nothing? By the time the election comes around the price of electricity and the reliability of the power supply is only going to get worse not better.

 

[Bicks]

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

There are many incompetent organisations which have contributed to our loss of power... & they are all very well paid.

SA power network can't add up/count & don't have good checks in place when load shedding.

AEMO are not very good at predicting peak demand or warning power suppliers that there may be a need for maximum capacity when our conditions are above 40 degrees.

Power supplier wasn't ready to up production when the weather was above 40 degrees & demand likely to be at it's peak when everyone heads home.

State Labor policy for making our supply vulnerable with sporadic supply mix & reliant on interstate supply to top up.

State Liberals for privatising electricity so we pay way more than the rest of Australia.

Respective federal governments not taking a proper national approach by having a reliable national grid where power can be easily shared across jurisdictions to safeguard where one has difficulty... as easier to play the blame game with states.

Whole thing is a disgrace & the people we pay very well are more intent on laying blame elsewhere rather than fixing the our power to be reliable. Typical management of the new millennium.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

This will cost them the election, have they learnt nothing? By the time the election comes around the price of electricity and the reliability of the power supply is only going to get worse not better.

Reckon it is the nail in the coffin... but with the liberals are experts in resuscitating labor at state elections.

 

[Elite Crow]

There are many incompetent organisations which have contributed to our loss of power... & they are all very well paid.

SA power network can't add up/count & don't have good checks in place when load shedding.

AEMO are not very good at predicting peak demand or warning power suppliers that there may be a need for maximum capacity when our conditions are above 40 degrees.

Power supplier wasn't ready to up production when the weather was above 40 degrees & demand likely to be at it's peak when everyone heads home.

State Labor policy for making our supply vulnerable with sporadic supply mix & reliant on interstate supply to top up.

State Liberals for privatising electricity so we pay way more than the rest of Australia.

Respective federal governments not taking a proper national approach by having a reliable national grid where power can be easily shared across jurisdictions to safeguard where one has difficulty... as easier to play the blame game with states.

Whole thing is a disgrace & the people we pay very well are more intent on laying blame elsewhere rather than fixing the our power to be reliable. Typical management of the new millennium.

Haven't there been reports that privatising doesn't necessarily lead to higher electricity prices? It's been fact checked by the ABC

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Haven't there been reports that privatising doesn't necessarily lead to higher electricity prices? It's been fact checked by the ABC

Have you not looked at our power prices...

We have made a Hong Kong business man very, very wealthy.

 

[Elite Crow]

Have you not looked at our power prices...

We have made a Hong Kong business man very, very wealthy.

Then why hasn't the same happened interstate?

Do you also think the government would have handled this efficiently? We would still have the same source of power, coal power stations would be gone and we'd still be relying on wind farms.

 

[Bicks]

 

[Bicks]

 

[Bicks]

This renewables thing is starting to get out of hand, now Britain predicting the not so well off are going to struggle keeping the "lights" on...

This madness has to stop, surely the answer is somewhere in the middle of renewables versus reliability.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...gy-crisis-could-could-see-families-pay-extra/

Britain's increasing reliance on "intermittent" renewable energy means that the country is facing an unprecedented supply crisis, a senior Ofgem executive has warned.

Andrew Wright, a senior partner at Ofgem and former interim chief executive, warned that households could be forced to pay extra to keep their lights on while their neighbours “sit in the dark” because “not everyone will be able to use as much as electricity as they want”.

He warned that in future richer customers will be able to “pay for a higher level of reliability” while other households are left without electricity.

Philip Hammond, the Chancellor, has previously said that Britain will need to invest "eye-wateringly large sums of money" just to keep the lights on.

The Chancellor put the cost at around £100 billion in the next 20 years to ensure the country meets its energy needs.