MRP / Trib. Umpiring, MRO, Tribunal, Rule Changes - 50m penalties for raising arms?

[Runk]

Apologies you're right - whoever made the decision to dismiss the fines are where my questions lie (which I think still stand).

Wayne Henwood & ex-Richmond player Steven Jurica

 

[Lore]

Didn't it happen once recently that the AFL General Counsel appealed a tribunal decision because it wasn't harsh enough and optics and stuff?

Not saying it's what they should do here but it's interesting that the umpires have reported players, the MRO has handed out sanctions in accordance with the AFL's constant interpretations and announcements about protecting the head and potential to cause injury and blah blah blah, the AFL's representative at the Tribunal itself made recommendations, and the Tribunal has gone ahead and thrown half of them out this week regardless.

I don't know if this shows how independent the Tribunal is, or how ****ed up the AFL is, or both..?

 

[mike14]

The logical conclusion to all this is that if both actions are A-OK and they ensured a free kick and 50m penalty, then any player who doesn't act in the same manner when in a similar position is actually hurting his team.

 

[pepsi]

You watch one of our players come out this week and stage like Vlaustin and Grimes. Just see our player get reprimanded for it.

 

[scottmclaren]

You watch one of our players come out this week and stage like Vlaustin and Grimes. Just see our player get reprimanded for it.

Would not be surprised given how stupid our players can be at times.

 

[Runk]

You watch one of our players come out this week and stage like Vlaustin and Grimes. Just see our player get reprimanded for it.

Cue Shaun McKernan.

 

[Atavistic]

You watch one of our players come out this week and stage like Vlaustin and Grimes. Just see our player get reprimanded for it.

Only Joe is capable of that Grimes level of diving.

 

[citizen-erased]

no point our guys doing it.
I want Shuey to go full Shuey this week.

 

[Lore]

 

[boncer34]

Has anyone else had a behind the mark 50 paid this season?

 

[boncer34]

BARRETT: It's time for a real crackdown on umpire disrespect

Bans for breaching rules around umpire respect would send a stronger message than any fine, writes Damian Barrett

www.afl.com.au

Can't believe I agree with Damo.

 

[yodellinhank]

Umpires are arrogantly ruining our great game with their flamboyant grandstanding as it is. Last thing we need is the players off the park so the umpires can continue their gross attention seeking.

 

[kleanr]

Has anyone else had a behind the mark 50 paid this season?

what's the rules state about that? surely it was a massive mistake that lead to 1 of the 5 or 6 goals.

 

[boncer34]

what's the rules state about that? surely it was a massive mistake that lead to 1 of the 5 or 6 goals.

The rules say it was a 50. But it's never paid.

 

[Maddogm]

BARRETT: It's time for a real crackdown on umpire disrespect

Bans for breaching rules around umpire respect would send a stronger message than any fine, writes Damian Barrett

www.afl.com.au

Can't believe I agree with Damo.

Same, though I think he's being soft on McCartney. I'd say 6 months for that.

For the Neale type incidents I'd accept a fine for non-aggressive contact but
a) wouldn't put any faith in the AFL to be able to define it any meaningful way
b) fines levels need to upped across the board

 

[Lore]

Same, though I think he's being soft on McCartney. I'd say 6 months for that.

For the Neale type incidents I'd accept a fine for non-aggressive contact but
a) wouldn't put any faith in the AFL to be able to define it any meaningful way
b) fines levels need to upped across the board

Aren't fines like 50% due to covid? Or was that only last year?

Any deliberate contact should be a suspension.

On the other hand, it's not hard to see why they might get a bit upset.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

The rules say it was a 50. But it's never paid.

I can’t remember it ever before. Maybe if they cut in too early but Snelling did a near right angle from outside the protected zone.

 

[Maddogm]

I can’t remember it ever before. Maybe if they cut in too early but Snelling did a near right angle from outside the protected zone.

Think it's related to the new man on the mark rules

 

[boncer34]

Think it's related to the new man on the mark rules

Yes. 5 metres behind the mark is now considered protected.

 

[jmoo wan]

BARRETT: It's time for a real crackdown on umpire disrespect

Bans for breaching rules around umpire respect would send a stronger message than any fine, writes Damian Barrett

www.afl.com.au

Can't believe I agree with Damo.

Neale was just saying excuse me umpire, I am bleeding and I must depart the field due to the blood rule. It's a health and safety issue that the umpire missed and needlessly put players in danger of contracting a blood borne disease from Neale, who apparently is riddled with them

 

[boncer34]

Aren't fines like 50% due to covid? Or was that only last year?

Any deliberate contact should be a suspension.

On the other hand, it's not hard to see why they might get a bit upset.

People at umpires?

If Neale grabbed a teammate like that because they'd made an error we'd all be roundly bagging him for being a flog.

 

[citizen-erased]

Has anyone else had a behind the mark 50 paid this season?

im still baffled by that one.

 

[boncer34]

im still baffled by that one.

Why

 

[citizen-erased]

Why

The way it was rolled out made it sound like you couldn't stand behind the man on the mark within 5m to become a lane blocker.
It didn't sound like it was a pure protected zone. but now we know i guess.

 

[boncer34]

The way it was rolled out made it sound like you couldn't stand behind the man on the mark within 5m to become a lane blocker.
It didn't sound like it was a pure protected zone. but now we know i guess.

Where it's been communicated to the umpire group it's a protected zone so I guess it's similar to what BrunoV and I were discussing the other day. There seems to be a disconnect in the message from the AFL.

In other news we had a coaching session tonight where the Blakey after the siren shot against us was shown. There was significant outrage here and on social media about him running off his line.

Tonight they showed us the footage of the shot from behind the goal. When he kicked the ball he was very clearly on his line.

Yet I remember fox footy at the time showing the "incident" from every other angle than the one that cleared it up. Coincidence? Doubt it.