Agreed, Melbourne is far more interesting and better than Adelaide.
Better is just a matter of taste. In what way is it more interesting, please provide some examples.
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Agreed, Melbourne is far more interesting and better than Adelaide.
Adelaide is where people go when they give up.
Give up on living in overcrowded, overpriced cities. Yes, that’s a good idea.
Nah just give up on life in general. Adelaide is such a nothing city.
If Adelaide ceased to exist tomorrow, what sector of life would suffer? Exactly.
SA & WA are non traditional areas. You win the all time nuffy award.The AFL needs to simplify the comp to keep it strong. I'd merge each of the interstate teams to consolidate interest in non-traditional areas such as QLD, NSW, SA, WA.
E.g. Port Adelaide Crows, Brisbane Suns, Fremantle Eagles
Yeah, that's what I saidSA & WA are non traditional areas.
Yeah, that's what I said
Well you're an idiot then.Yeah, that's what I said
The former is possible, you just cut the number of Victorian teams. It's been shown over and again that this is a rational answer to Vicbias. That doesn't mean it will happen, but it should
They wouldn't lose all of them, they wouldn't even lose most of them, if they managed the cull correctly. They would lose some. What a shame, those ones can join the dwindling number of bitter Roy boys that still lurk on the outer
There's your problem, you still see every nonVic club as interstate interlopers. There's not meant to be your state and interstate, it's meant to be a properly constituted representative national competition, not the VFL plus interstate. Once you get rid of your outdated mindset you'll see the light."It's been shown" really? must have missed that one.
Here's the thing- right now, because of their massive fanbases and connections/influence, the Vic big 4 basically run the show. So you could eliminate 2/3/4/5 clubs (whatever arbitrary number you guess pluck out of your arrse, it changes week to week) and guess what- the Vic big 4 will still run the show. Only now they will have access to even more sponsorship opportunities, government funding and the best and brightest Victorian talent.
Perhaps I'm a simple man, but if the end goal it to make a more balanced league and provide an environment for interstate clubs to win premierships, and its not simply a case of being selfish jackwads who want 150 year old football clubs to die purely so they can see ever so slightly better (but ultimately meaningless) state representation optics in the league, the whole exercise of culling Vic teams would seem to be a good recipe for making the Vicbias 'problem' considerably worse.
I agree in general with you however Woolly Mammoth is 100% on the money. The Vic clubs outside the big 4 get rear ended as much if not more than the non-Vic clubs. But they will still vote with the Vic block on everything to maintain Vic dominance of the comp.There's your problem, you still see every nonVic club as interstate interlopers. There's not meant to be your state and interstate, it's meant to be a properly constituted representative national competition, not the VFL plus interstate. Once you get rid of your outdated mindset you'll see the light.
Yep. If you want to advantage the big Vic teams, it's simple, cut the smaller Vic teams. The ridiculousness of thinking that this would somehow benefit the non-Vic teams is next level."It's been shown" really? must have missed that one.
Here's the thing- right now, because of their massive fanbases and connections/influence, the Vic big 4 basically run the show. So you could eliminate 2/3/4/5 clubs (whatever arbitrary number you guess pluck out of your arrse, it changes week to week) and guess what- the Vic big 4 will still run the show. Only now they will have access to even more sponsorship opportunities, government funding and the best and brightest Victorian talent.
Perhaps I'm a simple man, but if the end goal it to make a more balanced league and provide an environment for interstate clubs to win premierships, and its not simply a case of being selfish jackwads who want 150 year old football clubs to die purely so they can see ever so slightly better (but ultimately meaningless) state representation optics in the league, the whole exercise of culling Vic teams would seem to be a good recipe for making the Vicbias 'problem' considerably worse.
I'm fascinated as to why you think so. Imagine a 12 team comp comprised of 5 Vic teams, two with the MCG as home, two with docklands, and Geelong at kardinya. And seven non Vic teams. 22 rounds H&AYep. If you want to advantage the big Vic teams, it's simple, cut the smaller Vic teams. The ridiculousness of thinking that this would somehow benefit the non-Vic teams is next level.
Well you're an idiot then.
SANFL established 1877
WAFL established 1885
VFL established 1896
Good luck tying your shoe laces tomorrow morning
When Brad Hill, Paddy Ryder, or Brad Crouch come back to Victoria they pick Collingwood because st kilda don't exist.I'm fascinated as to why you think so. Imagine a 12 team comp comprised of 5 Vic teams, two with the MCG as home, two with docklands, and Geelong at kardinya. And seven non Vic teams. 22 rounds H&A
So Collingwood as an MCG team gets to play 12 games at the G, seven outside Vic and one at the alphabet under that arrangement.
Please detail how that is more advantageous to them as opposed to playing 15 at the MCG and four outside Vic and none at kardinya under the current fixture?
We currently play 14 at G and 6 interstate. So not much different.I'm fascinated as to why you think so. Imagine a 12 team comp comprised of 5 Vic teams, two with the MCG as home, two with docklands, and Geelong at kardinya. And seven non Vic teams. 22 rounds H&A
So Collingwood as an MCG team gets to play 12 games at the G, seven outside Vic and one at the alphabet under that arrangement.
Please detail how that is more advantageous to them as opposed to playing 15 at the MCG and four outside Vic and none at kardinya under the current fixture?
This year you're playing five out of Vic plus gather round against another Vic team so that's not the same as playing another team at their house. It's a big difference when ladder positions are decided by a game or percentage across a seasonWe currently play 14 at G and 6 interstate. So not much different.
More go home Vic's at cheaper due to less competition. Even more power in the biggest market in the country.
Who cares? For every Nathan Buckley there's a Jonathan Brown. Not every Vic kid is a mummy's boyWhen Brad Hill, Paddy Ryder, or Brad Crouch come back to Victoria they pick Collingwood because st kilda don't exist.
Less teams in Melbourne won't reduce the amount of Victorian talent in the league wanting to get home.
More importantly, they're not gone from their clubs, they're gone from the league. Fitzroy fans still follow their club today.Don't know how it works in Western Australia, but cull the club- 95% of supporters are goneski.
History has taught us that there are more Buckley's than Browns. That isn't going to change.Who cares? For every Nathan Buckley there's a Jonathan Brown. Not every Vic kid is a mummy's boy
You don't get it both ways. Home ground advantage and travel are two different things.This year you're playing five out of Vic plus gather round against another Vic team so that's not the same as playing another team at their house. It's a big difference.
More importantly, they're not gone from their clubs, they're gone from the league. Fitzroy fans still follow their club today.
For someone to think that HQ would somehow want this is naive.
As far as WA goes, well it's pretty simple, all the public interest went into brand new start up clubs in a league centred on the other side of the country.
The interest in the wafl comp went out the window as soon as WC entered. dropped their wafl clubs like a toxic ex, and then complain about it.
The question is why? if they all complain about this league so much.
More importantly, they're not gone from their clubs, they're gone from the league. Fitzroy fans still follow their club today.
For someone to think that HQ would somehow want this is naive.
As far as WA goes, well it's pretty simple, all the public interest went into brand new start up clubs in a league centred on the other side of the country.
The interest in the wafl comp went out the window as soon as WC entered. dropped their wafl clubs like a toxic ex, and then complain about it.
The question is why? if they all complain about this league so much.