Player Watch Will Hoskin-Elliott

[sr36]

I don’t think Poulter has the positional awareness, forwards smarts or aerial ability to play WHE’s role and I don’t think Macrae wants to re structure wings to fit him in.

At the moment, Poulter is a receiver who uses it badly.

 

[domus]

I think WHE has been okay in recent weeks. He will never crunch packs or go where angels fear to tread but I think references to his timidity are wildly exaggerated. I was angry with his form a few weeks back because of his lethargy when a hard chase was required. He just looked disinterested. Recently he seems more engaged and did lay one or two effective tackles.

There is nobody in the VFL who would be better if they replaced him as he still has that ability to stand on top of a pack or do something classy and freakish.

 

[BuildEmUp]

I think WHE has been okay in recent weeks. He will never crunch packs or go where angels fear to tread but I think references to his timidity are wildly exaggerated. I was angry with his form a few weeks back because of his lethargy when a hard chase was required. He just looked disinterested. Recently he seems more engaged and did lay one or two effective tackles.

There is nobody in the VFL who would be better if they replaced him as he still has that ability to stand on top of a pack or do something classy and freakish.

hopefully Ash Johnson will do that job soon ..!

 

[domus]

hopefully Ash Johnson will do that job soon ..!

Can't wait to see him in action.

 

[sideswipe]

hopefully Ash Johnson will do that job soon ..!

Hope Ash is a star but I am guessing he won't be taking WHE's spot. From the sounds of it, Ash aint super fit and that's what you need to be to perform that role.

 

[loki04]

I've had enough of Will Hoskin-Elliott. Today was the last straw. He soccers the ball instead of trying to possess it because he's afraid of contact. He kicked the ball out on the full twice because he flinched at pressure. In the last quarter, with the game on the line, he half arses a marking contest attempting a chest mark, lets his opponent mark the ball and walk it out of defence. It's time he spends some time in the VFL.

He is the type I'm talking about not getting games over a kid in a development year.

 

[Bianconeri]

At the moment, Poulter is a receiver who uses it badly.

I’d say the same applies to Sidebottom. I think the big difference is Sidebottom gets into much more dangerous positions to receive.

 

[Bianconeri]

Hope Ash is a star but I am guessing he won't be taking WHE's spot. From the sounds of it, Ash aint super fit and that's what you need to be to perform that role.

Ash can take Henry’s spot and Henry can move up to take WHE’s

 

[sideswipe]

Ash can take Henry’s spot and Henry can move up to take WHE’s

Hmmm, not sure I would be moving Henry away from the big sticks, but that might be in his future? Guessing Ash will need a few weeks in the VFL given he only started full training last week. Fitting them all in could be a good problem to have in a few weeks' time.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Wing might be a good spot for Carmichael to get a run, if indeed he is Gaff-like.

 

[cakewalk06]

Wing might be a good spot for Carmichael to get a run, if indeed he is Gaff-like.

Be great if he comes in and really looks the part from the get go. Like Marlion Pickett did a few years ago. Came in a immediately was one of the best players in the VFL. Carmichael looks a powerful unit. Does not look a winger's build to me but a big tank has got to be a huge plus

 

[60 Yards Out]

Ash can take Henry’s spot and Henry can move up to take WHE’s

Wouldn’t we continue to cultivate Henry as a target up forward? Looks like becoming our best bet since Cloke.

 

[thebigsaveloy]

I haven't minded WHE's season so far and thought he was pretty good last year.

Was really hard to watch yesterday though and didn't think his attack on the contest was up to scratch. I thought he'd been a lot better in that regard but yesterday was hard to watch. I spose the wet didn't help him.

I'm happy to give him a couple more weeks to get back to form, I like what he adds to the team when playing well.

 

[HFF]

Ever since he suffered that innocuous leg/hip injury he has never been the same again.
He used to be lightning quick but he doesnt break open into space much since that injury---he has still kept his ability to leap and mark overhead although more sparingly these days. He should be out of contract this season--and i daresay would have to be a contender for delisting--if we needed to clear some decks.
Otherwise--1yr deal purely for depth.

 

[Mostfamousclub_Pies]

I don’t think Thomas is the best example here, he was still bulkier than WHE during his peak with us and definitely looked like he put on weight at Carlton.

Thomas was a broad shouldered stickman. He had virtually no muscle definition.
As for when he moved to Carlton - that’s when I stopped observing him or caring.

 

[Seedsfan]

Should have traded him years ago. You would take Aish every day of the week

 

[Mollythedolly]

hopefully Ash Johnson will do that job soon ..!

From the little I’ve seen of Johnson through his VFL appearances, I doubt he has the work rate up and down the ground to replace WHE. I’d love to see how WHE’s gps data stacks up against others in the team in terms of territory he’s covering and at what pace.

 

[Kappa]

Should have traded him years ago. You would take Aish every day of the week

Or Tom Phillips.

 

[ZEV]

Or Tom Phillips.

How did he go on Sunday Did he keep up with WHE?

 

[Finnishpie]

At the moment, Poulter is a receiver who uses it badly.

Like most of the commentators on bigfooty….. metaphorically speaking.

 

[Finnishpie]

Should have traded him years ago. You would take Aish every day of the week

Agree that since 2018 he’s flatlined. I would have traded him a year or two ago. If we could get something back from him.

 

[Seedsfan]

Agree that since 2018 he’s flatlined. I would have traded him a year or two ago. If we could get something back from him.

2019 when he got bone bruising in his knee was the turning point

 

[noideaatall]

He is the type I'm talking about not getting games over a kid in a development year.

Agreed. He is one player who will struggle to get a game once we put a strong finals list in place. Would make awesome VFL depth.

 

[Anzacday]

On the mark​

Most accurate kicks for goal (2017-2022)

Player	Club	Mt	Goals	Behinds	SAG	SAG %
Harry Himmelberg	GWS Giants	112	145	66	223	65.0%
Will Hoskin-Elliott	Collingwood	116	111	42	173	64.2%
Nick Larkey	North Melbourne	62	102	37	161	63.4%
Luke Breust	Hawthorn	110	190	84	309	61.5%
Tom McDonald	Melbourne	98	149	75	244	61.1%
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti	Essendon	105	145	65	239	60.7%
Jack Darling	West Coast Eagles	119	237	109	395	60.0%
Peter Wright	Gold Coast Suns/Essendon	78	111	57	187	59.4%
Daniel McStay	Brisbane Lions	108	97	57	164	59.1%
Ben Brown	North Melbourne/Melbourne	97	236	117	401	58.9%
Jesse Hogan	Melbourne/Fremantle/GWS Giants	66	118	63	201	58.7%
Matt Taberner	Fremantle	64	114	56	198	57.6%
Josh J. Kennedy	West Coast Eagles	99	252	139	444	56.8%
Jeremy Finlayson	GWS Giants/Port Adelaide	76	104	56	184	56.5%

Sample size is top 100 for shots at goal.
Source: Champion Data

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[Rorzza]

Yep, he's a jet!