VFL VFL Round 7 v Williamstown - Sunday May 7th. 12pm @ Williamstown FC

[LuckyLee]

Macrae was at the bottom of lots of packs and made an very impressive number of tackles but his disposals have very little impact.


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[adammania9]

Good to see Willy are up and about again. Great club.

 

[No SPIN]

Either of Reef or Carmy would be a downgrade on Elliott at this stage of their young careers.

When you kick the ball as hard as Carmy does, your mis-kicks are magnified. But his kicking is a real weapon - it has length and penetration than most others lack.

Reef lacks forward instincts and doesn’t win enough of the ball in the midfield. To survive, I think he needs to retrain as a defender.


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Reef did well as the Sub early on - so I can’t see how he lacks fwd instinct.
So if Elliot goes out - who takes his place in the fwd line if not Reef, because it won’t be Carmichael.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Macrae was solid, did some good things and bad things. Arlo Draper and Ryan showed some promise. Carmichael was consistently our best player.

Rest of the AFL list players not much to talk about.

You'll no doubt talk about them anyway won't you.

 

[35Daicos]

Where’s Sam Fowler playing? Missing him this year

Dromana (which appears to be his old club), following a stint in the NTFL: Public Profile | PlayHQ

He's no longer on our list, and is playing full-time with Dromana. I thought he had a bit going for him as well, but lack of size probably meant AFL recruiters were never that keen, so it seems reasonable he's headed home after having a crack at making it.

 

[Dundalis]

I think Carmy’s a like-for-like replacement for Elliott, if we decide to rest him.


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Not watched the game but I didn’t realise Carmichael was a player with aerial threat and forward craft who would be reliable to kick goals every game. That’s great if he’s added all that to his game

 

[Mollythedolly]

Wouldn’t walk into any best 22 at a premiership contender so unless he wants a trade to a basketcase , he would be wise to stay.

There were people saying the same of Ollie Henry last year. Wouldn’t break into the Cats strong F50 group, would play VFL all year. Hasn’t missed a game yet has he?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

There were people saying the same of Ollie Henry last year. Wouldn’t break into the Cats strong F50 group, would play VFL all year. Hasn’t missed a game yet has he?

I wasn’t saying that.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I wasn’t saying that.

I didn’t say you did. Just highlighting the folly of these predictions.

 

[Kappa]

Not watched the game but I didn’t realise Carmichael was a player with aerial threat and forward craft who would be reliable to kick goals every game. That’s great if he’s added all that to his game

If you factor in he's been sub a lot in his short career, Carmichael averages around 1 goal per game at AFL level. In 2023, Elliot is averaging less than that.

 

[Hardas]

Ryan's racked it up too, 23 disposals, 2nd most for us

Like the look of Ryan - looks an AFL player for sure.

 

[No SPIN]

There were people saying the same of Ollie Henry last year. Wouldn’t break into the Cats strong F50 group, would play VFL all year. Hasn’t missed a game yet has he?

He’s being kissed on the ring by the injuries at Geel.
Do yourself a favour and look at that list and tell me how Henry is best 22.
Guthrie, Bowes, Menagola, Tuohy, Stengle and Stanley all injured, get a game ahead of Henry

 

[Gaben]

Agree

Should be playing
Think requests a trade at years end

Should be playing ahead of who? I hate when people say this s**t as if spots are just unlimited at senior level. He’s been in the top 5 consistently for a middle of the table VFL team for an AFL team that has a brilliant midfield.
He hasn’t had any performances that have demanded selection and he doesn’t really have any tools that demand selection. He had his opportunity to stamp his mark last year and yet we ended up going up recruiting Mitchell because we knew he wasn’t at the grade yet.

Long term I actually think he’ll make it, but I seriously doubt he is disillusioned and thinking he should be playing seniors, because again, who should he be ahead of in our senior midfield lineup?

He’s Cal Brown v2 at the moment, he definitely has a brighter future than CB, but people acting like he should be on the verge of walking out are seriously misguided. He has less potential and is showing less than Sier was when people were complaining endlessly about his treatment, too.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I wasn’t saying that.

I stand by by comment.

With whe, Sidebottom Adams and Pendlebury nearer the ends of their careers than the start and a few others not exactly spring chickens ( mitchell crisp etc) , macrae woulld be mad to leave to go to a bottom eight side if his motivation was purely “ opportunity”. At the good clubs his short term prospects would likely be equally limited.

His solution is time.

 

[Go Woods]

Without trawling through pages, how did Draper go today?

 

[stormskye]

Without trawling through pages, how did Draper go today?

He was decent on his return. Was pretty poor team game overall today. Macrae worked his ass off, Ryan was solid, as was Jetta.

 

[TradeDraft]

What a horrible windswept ground.Why on earth do they play football there?

Can be a Shithole down there when weather is bad

 

[Soups]

Without trawling through pages, how did Draper go today?

One of our better players imo. He’s quite good in close, kicked a nice goal out of a stoppage. Hopefully stays injury free now and plays a role in the middle for the rest of the year.

 

[TradeDraft]

Williamstown can be such a crap place to play

Williamstown is nearly Unbeatable at there Home Ground

 

[No SPIN]

Missed a lot of the game - how did Begg go?

 

[Jen2310]

Without trawling through pages, how did Draper go today?

20 disposals. 4 clearances. 4 tackles and a goal

First game for the year and first game playing full mid.

 

[Jen2310]

Macrae - 26 disposals, 11 tackles, 8 clearances
Ryan - 23 disposals. 4 marks
Bianco - 21 disposals. 5 tackles. 6 marks
Draper (first game for the year playing mid) - 20 disposals. 4 clearances. 4 tackles. 1 goal
Carmichael - 20 disposals. 3 clearances. 1 goal
Ruscoe - 16 disposals. 3 tackles
Murley - 13 disposals. 5 tackles 4 clearances
Allan - 12 disposals. 2 tackles
Reef (playing mid/forward) 11 disposals. 3 clearances 6 tackles. 2 goals
Begg - 11 disposals. 7 clearances. 22 hitouts. 5 tackles.
Harrison - 10 disposals. 11 tackles. 2 clearances
Wilson - 9 disposals. 4 marks
Kelly (play 1 half) 6 touches. 2 tackles. 2 marks

State league affiliate: Collingwood (VFL)
This weekend: Williamstown v Collingwood at DSV Stadium, Sunday May 7, 12pm AEST

Finlay Macrae continued to push for a senior spot with a busy performance in Collingwood's 24-point loss to Williamstown on Sunday.

Macrae gathered 26 disposals and had 11 tackles and eight clearances.

Trent Bianco (21 disposals) and Josh Carmichael (20, a goal and three clearances) also played well.
Aiden Begg was a strong contributor with 11 touches, a goal, 22 hitouts and seven clearances.

Jakob Ryan (23 disposals) and Arlo Draper (20 and a goal) were also busy.

Reef McInnes kicked two majors for the Magpies, Trey Ruscoe had 16 disposals and Ed Allan had 12.

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[danielnajdek]

Thought Ruscoe was worse on ground. Was shocking.

 

[LuckyLee]

Not watched the game but I didn’t realise Carmichael was a player with aerial threat and forward craft who would be reliable to kick goals every game. That’s great if he’s added all that to his game

I’m detecting an ever-so-slight hint of sarcasm….


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[ElliottsMaggies]

Macrae - 26 disposals, 11 tackles, 8 clearances
Ryan - 23 disposals. 4 marks
Bianco - 21 disposals. 5 tackles. 6 marks
Draper (first game for the year playing mid) - 20 disposals. 4 clearances. 4 tackles. 1 goal
Carmichael - 20 disposals. 3 clearances. 1 goal
Ruscoe - 16 disposals. 3 tackles
Murley - 13 disposals. 5 tackles 4 clearances
Allan - 12 disposals. 2 tackles
Reef (playing mid/forward) 11 disposals. 3 clearances 6 tackles. 2 goals
Begg - 11 disposals. 7 clearances. 22 hitouts. 5 tackles.
Harrison - 10 disposals. 11 tackles. 2 clearances
Wilson - 9 disposals. 4 marks
Kelly (play 1 half) 6 touches. 2 tackles. 2 marks

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Did Steene play today?