Traded Jake Carlisle [traded w/ #23 and #44 for #5, #24 and Craig Bird]

[TheHoneyBadger]

I wouldn't read too much into Carlisle's celebrating or lack thereof, he's a pretty reserved guy.

 

[carnthedons]

I wouldn't read too much into Carlisle's celebrating or lack thereof, he's a pretty reserved guy.

Yeah, he seems to be the least enthusiastic footballer out there. Probably was an emo kid.

 

[Marley10]

How would you know? Unless you have contact with Carlisle.

I can see a three-way trade as a possibility involving other clubs. Don't see much potential in the Victorian market.

Plus I don't see why he would leave Essendon for another Vic club.

He is a required player at Essendon and I don't expect Essendon to back out so easily.

 

[Hrovat24]

How would you know? Unless you have contact with Carlisle.

I can see a three-way trade as a possibility involving other clubs. Don't see much potential in the Victorian market.

Plus I don't see why he would leave Essendon for another Vic club.

He is a required player at Essendon and I don't expect Essendon to back out so easily.

Good luck with that , you obviously have no idea

 

[Ambrosia]

I wouldn't read too much into Carlisle's celebrating or lack thereof, he's a pretty reserved guy.

This.

Last I heard Carlisle was fairly deep in negotiations with Essendon. The only place he'd consider moving to is the dogs imo

 

[Two Planks]

This.

Last I heard Carlisle was fairly deep in negotiations with Essendon.

Let me guess, Essendon said this.

 

[Ambrosia]

Let me guess, Essendon said this.

Well it was a friend of a friend who works at Essendon but I'm not trying to pass it off as fact.

 

[Mitchell54]

Hawthorn have nothing to offer the Bombers, rather develop a KPP than trade half the team for one.

 

[Marley10]

Let me guess, Essendon said this.

So how do you know that he wants to leave? Or that he wouldn't go interstate?

 

[Two Planks]

So how do you know that he wants to leave? Or that he wouldn't go interstate?

Unfortunately you are going to have to trust me and wait until October for the proof.

 

[Marley10]

Unfortunately you are going to have to trust me and wait until October for the proof.

Look I think that there is a possibility, but that's just a gut feeling. It would be pretty crap to be honest if he left with Ryder leaving as well.

What club would you think he would go to? And what do you think is the reason for him leaving?

 

[Marley10]

If he was hell bent on leaving then there are a couple of options I'd consider

Carlisle + 2nd rounder for Peter Wright + Jack Leslie

Carlisle + 1st rounder for Dylan Shiel and Cam McCarthy

Wow. Yeah that's a bit much. GWS would have to be extremely desperate and a touch crazy to do that deal. Either of those players and a pick for Carlisle would do the job. But I would prefer Carlisle to stay at Essendon.

 

[doggies ftw]

How would you know? Unless you have contact with Carlisle.

I can see a three-way trade as a possibility involving other clubs. Don't see much potential in the Victorian market.

Plus I don't see why he would leave Essendon for another Vic club.

He is a required player at Essendon and I don't expect Essendon to back out so easily.

To be fair Two planks usually has very good info in regards to the bulldogs. And another extremely reliable poster on the dogs board also said he wont leave vic and is still likely to sign with the bombers but that we definitely have an offer on the table.

I'm one of the few who is not sold on going hard at Carlisle to be honest, gun defender but I really do rate our young defenders very highly and feel if were going to throw another big contract out we have a much bigger hole at CHF that we need to fill first. But in saying that if you get the opportunity to bring in a very young elite defender, well you don't pass that up and our first pick is a good place to start. Or if you need mature players we could bring a 3rd team in.

 

[Marley10]

To be fair Two planks usually has very good info in regards to the bulldogs. And another extremely reliable poster on the dogs board also said he wont leave vic and is still likely to sign with the bombers but that we definitely have an offer on the table.

I'm one of the few who is not sold on going hard at Carlisle to be honest, gun defender but I really do rate our young defenders very highly and feel if were going to throw another big contract out we have a much bigger hole at CHF that we need to fill first. But in saying that if you get the opportunity to bring in a very young elite defender, well you don't pass that up and our first pick is a good place to start. Or if you need mature players we could bring a 3rd team in.

That is what I was originally talking about. If Essendon are serious about getting a premiership within the next few years, a pick that will take a few years to develop is not the answer considering GWS, Gold Coast and even Melbourne and Bulldogs will only get better. We have a huge problem up forward and since Carlisle is very important to our structure, I'd be very disappointed if we only get a pick for him. Need to address our needs as well. Can't see the Dogs offering up something that will help us kick more goals so I would expect a 3rd club to come into play.

We were very lucky that the Crameri deal ended up being a win win for both clubs with Merrett. Don't often have a player from the 20s range that makes an immediate impact

 

[fronkalicious]

I'm a dogs fan, and a hrovat fan, but Z Merrett is a better talent than hrovat.

 

[Hrovat24]

I'm a dogs fan, and a hrovat fan, but Z Merrett is a better talent than hrovat.

Hrovat has had a bad run with injury , Merrett is better right now but hrovat could go past him in a few years

 

[Despair]

Hrovat has had a bad run with injury , Merrett is better right now but hrovat could go past him in a few years

It's not a big deal mate, just get one of the admins to change your username.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

I'd trade him, massive potential but doesn't seem that driven atm and his ability to play through injury is questionable. Worth more to a side as an AA quality defender than a B grade forward who occasionally dominates.

 

[fronkalicious]

I'd trade him, massive potential but doesn't seem that driven atm and his ability to play through injury is questionable. Worth more to a side as an AA quality defender that a B grade forward who occasionally dominates.

Actually agree with that. Would net plenty at the trade table.

 

[Heppellicious]

Carlisle will be re-signing with Essendon. Bookmark it.

He will not be going to the Dogs or anywhere else for that matter.

Got an update on this on Friday.

 

[Leezorr]

Carlisle will be re-signing with Essendon. Bookmark it.

He will not be going to the Dogs or anywhere else for that matter.

Got an update on this on Friday.

I hope so, I'd love him at the Dogs but think he would cost to much to acquire.

 

[Two Planks]

Carlisle will be re-signing with Essendon. Bookmark it.

He will not be going to the Dogs or anywhere else for that matter.

Got an update on this on Friday.

Just out of interest, was your update from the player or the club ???

 

[Heppellicious]

Just out of interest, was your update from the player or the club ???

Neither. Came from the company of his player manager.

 

[Two Planks]

Neither. Came from the company of his player manager.

Ok happy to stake my future on bigfooty to say that he leaves and will play for another melbourne club next year.

 

[Heppellicious]

Ok happy to stake my future on bigfooty to say that he leaves and will play for another melbourne club next year.

Kudos that is gutsy. I am just passing on what I was told as late as Friday. The sentiment was very much he was happy at Essendon and would remain there.

Intersting though let's assumke for the sake of the argument it was the Bulldogs, I have no idea how they woulod get this done. Essendon would want a lot more than their first round pick which wouldnt be enough for Essendon and if not would ask for a Macrae or a Bontempelli.

The Dogs wont have an early PSD pick so I would actually give them very little chance.

I was told as of Friday that negotiations are ongoing with Essendon and there are no problems anticipated.

Unlike teh Ryder situation Essendon will not bend over here.