Recruiting EFC Trade/Draft Talk III - 1 McClug, 1 Billings (AND ROSS) for 4th rounder get it done dodoro

[MightyDons4]

Not IMO was very good no doubt but i did not see any more in him that i did not see in quite a few at the top level of under 18 footy. He was good but Jack Watts for one had many of the best performances i have seen in under 18 / school footy.
What makes you think we can get his knee right when the GC could not ?

Jaeger still pipped Watts for mine, he was just the complete midfielder. Like James Kelly with elite pace and better skills.

GC's medical team have been pathetic. Swallow's also been out for two years due to injury. GC doctors didn't hold much hope on fixing the knee, however when he consulted North's medicos they said they could fix it within two months.

 

[Runk]

Can anybody name a player that has had 2 years off due to crippling injury and has returned to play top football?

O'Meara originally dislocated his knee......

It was O'Meara's first match back after undergoing patella surgery on both knees in London during the off-season.

.....he ruptured the tendon, he'll have to get that sewn back together.

In 2014 O'Meara battled patella tendinitis in both knees (extremely painful) but still managed to average almost 22 disposals a game for the Suns.

WHAT IS INJURY?

Early 2016 article

In 2015 O’Meara had a rupture (complete tear) of the patella tendon, a critical structure that connects the kneecap to the lower leg. It is essential to provide strength and power to the knee via the quadriceps muscles and when ruptured, a player cannot bear weight or even move the knee. This is an extremely rare injury in the AFL and in recent history only Essendon’s Michael Long (1996) and Adelaide’s Chris Knights (2013) have had similar tears.

HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?

Ruptures occur when a process such as age or injury weakens a tendon. O’Meara had arthroscopic “ shaving” of his patella tendon in London in September 2014 in an attempt to deal with chronic overuse tendon soreness. During a comeback practice game in April 2015 his tendon snapped, suggesting it had not fully recovered.

WHAT IS TREATMENT?

Surgery to repair the torn tendon is always required. Normally the torn ends are directly sewn together. However, in O’Meara’s case the surgeon discovered the tendon was so badly torn that a piece of hamstring tendon was grafted to the front of the knee to augment the repair. This usually means recovery takes longer as the body has to integrate and remodel the hamstring tissue into the repaired patella tendon.

WHEN IS RETURN LIKELY?

Unfortunately O’Meara has required a third operation (arthroscopy) in February 2016 to address ongoing cartilage damage behind his right kneecap. This is typically a sign the patella is not tracking correctly in front of the knee. This causes pressure and breakdown of the sensitive cushioning cartilage protecting the patella bone surface.

His rehabilitation involves focusing on strengthening the knee, improving balance and coordination and gradually building up running, then jumping and kicking skills before attempting match simulation at training. Gym work and physiotherapy sessions make up a big part of his week.

sports where patella tendon ruptures occur more often (NFL, basketball) players can return successfully after surgery at approximately 10-12 months if there are no complications.

WHAT DOES FUTURE HOLD AFTER THIS INJURY?

Jaegar has now had three operations on his right knee in a 17-month period.

O’Meara’s repaired tendon will continue to regain strength and remodel for a period of 2-3 years in total. His most recent surgery setback should see him back to his pre arthroscope training by late April but there remains some doubt over the future health of his kneecap cartilage. His medical and fitness team will continue to monitor his knee soreness and training workload throughout the season.

Gold Coast are optimistic he will play senior games in 2016 but no firm date has been set for his return.

Awesome post MarkG. Now DO NOT WANT

 

[Vindicater]

Happy to take him in the PSD.

Do not want to risk pick 1 or 19 in any way for him.

 

[doug85]

I know its not quite apples and apples, but how good has Menzel been this season despite barely playing for 4 years.

I wouldn't write off the Jaeger bomb just yet.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Can anybody name a player that has had 2 years off due to crippling injury and has returned to play top football?

O'Meara originally dislocated his knee......

It was O'Meara's first match back after undergoing patella surgery on both knees in London during the off-season.

.....he ruptured the tendon, he'll have to get that sewn back together.

In 2014 O'Meara battled patella tendinitis in both knees (extremely painful) but still managed to average almost 22 disposals a game for the Suns.

WHAT IS INJURY?

Early 2016 article

In 2015 O’Meara had a rupture (complete tear) of the patella tendon, a critical structure that connects the kneecap to the lower leg. It is essential to provide strength and power to the knee via the quadriceps muscles and when ruptured, a player cannot bear weight or even move the knee. This is an extremely rare injury in the AFL and in recent history only Essendon’s Michael Long (1996) and Adelaide’s Chris Knights (2013) have had similar tears.

HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?

Ruptures occur when a process such as age or injury weakens a tendon. O’Meara had arthroscopic “ shaving” of his patella tendon in London in September 2014 in an attempt to deal with chronic overuse tendon soreness. During a comeback practice game in April 2015 his tendon snapped, suggesting it had not fully recovered.

WHAT IS TREATMENT?

Surgery to repair the torn tendon is always required. Normally the torn ends are directly sewn together. However, in O’Meara’s case the surgeon discovered the tendon was so badly torn that a piece of hamstring tendon was grafted to the front of the knee to augment the repair. This usually means recovery takes longer as the body has to integrate and remodel the hamstring tissue into the repaired patella tendon.

WHEN IS RETURN LIKELY?

Unfortunately O’Meara has required a third operation (arthroscopy) in February 2016 to address ongoing cartilage damage behind his right kneecap. This is typically a sign the patella is not tracking correctly in front of the knee. This causes pressure and breakdown of the sensitive cushioning cartilage protecting the patella bone surface.

His rehabilitation involves focusing on strengthening the knee, improving balance and coordination and gradually building up running, then jumping and kicking skills before attempting match simulation at training. Gym work and physiotherapy sessions make up a big part of his week.

sports where patella tendon ruptures occur more often (NFL, basketball) players can return successfully after surgery at approximately 10-12 months if there are no complications.

WHAT DOES FUTURE HOLD AFTER THIS INJURY?

Jaegar has now had three operations on his right knee in a 17-month period.

O’Meara’s repaired tendon will continue to regain strength and remodel for a period of 2-3 years in total. His most recent surgery setback should see him back to his pre arthroscope training by late April but there remains some doubt over the future health of his kneecap cartilage. His medical and fitness team will continue to monitor his knee soreness and training workload throughout the season.

Gold Coast are optimistic he will play senior games in 2016 but no firm date has been set for his return.

hopefully all the posters advocating trading anything more than a single second round pick for him take the time to read this

 

[Old Campaigner]

I know its not quite apples and apples, but how good has Menzel been this season despite barely playing for 4 years.

I wouldn't write off the Jaeger bomb just yet.

He wouldn't have been worth much 2 years into his knee recos either, it'd be just as likely he'd turn out like Morabito, hardly play again and look a shadow of his former self

 

[yaco55]

Howard Moon is correct with his post - PSD is only used when all else breaks down - There's been lots of discussion in this thread about the PSD - Lots of discussion.

 

[WEEVZ]

hopefully all the posters advocating trading anything more than a single second round pick for him take the time to read this

Exactly he's too much of a risk to trade for to be honest, and much as the wider footy community may view it as a dog act the PSD option is wide open and we absolutely should use it. I don't really understand why you'd give up something in these circumstances when you don't have to, and from all reports O'Meara and his management are extremely angry with the Suns and wouldn't be at all phased about taking that path. If GCS want to treat departing players the way they've treated him, they thoroughly deserve to get nothing for him.

 

[doug85]

He wouldn't have been worth much 2 years into his knee recos either, it'd be just as likely he'd turn out like Morabito, hardly play again and look a shadow of his former self

I wasn't really commenting on his worth, more that i think he's worth a punt.

But FTR, Jaeger had done more than Mora and Menzel when he went down.

 

[caboose]

Can anybody name a player that has had 2 years off due to crippling injury and has returned to play top football?

Depends on the exact definition of "2 years off".

But another one to add to Menzel from earlier ... James Hird would go pretty close to fitting that category. Played very little football for three years, because of crippling injury, at an older age than JOM is now. And returned to be an absolutely brilliant footballer.

 

[scanlon]

MOMENTUM

JAEGAR GET READY TO #DONTHESASH via psd pick 1

 

[YEMOC NAYR]

we'd have a boom in female memberships if we got omeara too, which would help our debt. win win

 

[Duckworth]

I taint this thread with Purple.
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne...-go-to-essendon-bombers-via-pre-season-draft/

 

[yaco55]

im not actually sold on Stringer being a key forward - i dont reckon he has very good marking hands, almost prefers to let the ball hit the ground so he can burst packs and use power and strength on the deck. Sounds a big bodied mid pinch hit fwd to me ?

Spot on - For me Stringer is a midfielder - Always been an issue building up his fitness since he suffered a badly broken leg.

 

[JDavey]

we'd have a boom in female memberships if we got omeara too, which would help our debt. win win

The Angus Monfries gap.

 

[eDPS]

In terms of picks we have had luck on our side of late and as much as I feel Omeara still has good value I'd like us to keep our higher picks and let Dodoro work his magic. If it means we miss out on Omeara then so be it but I'd like to keep our picks or atleast make our picks even better

 

[BrewSmackerVeiny]

PSD set for the 28th of November, 3 months away. Can O'meara hold a grudge that long?

 

[Yoda_]

Hm, going to be an extremely busy off season for a man in career best form.


Delist; Jason Ashby, Courtney Dempsey, Shaun Edwards, James Gwilt, Nick Kommer, Tayte Pears (Will Hams, AMT upgraded)

2 years; Marty Gleeson, Jayden Laverde, Matt Dea (FA)
1 year; Shaun McKernan, Jobe Watson
Trade; Michael Hibberd (Melbourne's pick 26)

Draft;
Pick 1 - Hugh McCluggage
Pick 19 - Will Drew
Pick 26 - Josh Battle/Pat Kerr
Pick 37 - Sam Powell Pepper
Pick 55 - pass
Pick 73 - AMT upgrade

PSD;
Pick 1 - Jagar O'Meara

Rookie Draft;
Pick 1; Darcy Cameron
Pick 19 - Mason DeWit

 

[Old Campaigner]

PSD set for the 28th of November, 3 months away. Can O'meara hold a grudge that long?

Let's hire a bunch of Estonians to hack Cochrane's twitter and make sure he does

 

[eDPS]

Hm, going to be an extremely busy off season for a man in career best form.


Delist; Jason Ashby, Courtney Dempsey, Shaun Edwards, James Gwilt, Nick Kommer, Tayte Pears (Will Hams, AMT upgraded)

2 years; Marty Gleeson, Jayden Laverde, Matt Dea (FA)
1 year; Shaun McKernan, Jobe Watson
Trade; Michael Hibberd (Melbourne's pick 26)

Draft;
Pick 1 - Hugh McCluggage
Pick 19 - Will Drew
Pick 26 - Josh Battle/Pat Kerr
Pick 37 - Sam Powell Pepper
Pick 55 - pass
Pick 73 - AMT upgrade

PSD;
Pick 1 - Jagar O'Meara

Rookie Draft;
Pick 1; Darcy Cameron
Pick 19 - Mason DeWit

If we can do all that then I'll need Dodoros address so I can send flowers and chocolates to his door

 

[Autobahn]

Another potential gun who's either skinny as a rake or too short: Shai Bolton. Do want but probably don't need.

 

[WEEVZ]

I taint this thread with Purple.
http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne...-go-to-essendon-bombers-via-pre-season-draft/

It's funny as, he's ragged on us so much for the last 3-4 years and now it's like he supports the club.

 

[WEEVZ]

Hm, going to be an extremely busy off season for a man in career best form.


Delist; Jason Ashby, Courtney Dempsey, Shaun Edwards, James Gwilt, Nick Kommer, Tayte Pears (Will Hams, AMT upgraded)

2 years; Marty Gleeson, Jayden Laverde, Matt Dea (FA)
1 year; Shaun McKernan, Jobe Watson
Trade; Michael Hibberd (Melbourne's pick 26)

Draft;
Pick 1 - Hugh McCluggage
Pick 19 - Will Drew
Pick 26 - Josh Battle/Pat Kerr
Pick 37 - Sam Powell Pepper
Pick 55 - pass
Pick 73 - AMT upgrade

PSD;
Pick 1 - Jagar O'Meara

Rookie Draft;
Pick 1; Darcy Cameron
Pick 19 - Mason DeWit

You'd still keep McKernan? I'd be doing everything possible to get rid of him. Doesn't belong at AFL level.

 

[JayJ20]

Man. Look at all of you. Let's be honest. We'd be stoked if he nominates us.

I mean, it's the off season!
I'll start.

LOL GC we're getting O'Meara for free!
Thanks St Kilda for Francis, O'Meara and McCluggage! Remember that when we beat you in September!

So....

Umm... yer

 

[JDavey]

I think if we got O'meara for our second that would be the dream. PSD just seems unlikely especially now that Barrett has called it.