2017 - Non Yeo Discussion (Formerly Non Freo Discussion)

[mike91]

Fagan's just getting nervous about Josh Schache heading home. Try creating a culture and environment that kids want to stay with instead of lamenting the fact that they don't want to say. Their facilities are a joke. And another thing, is anyone stopping them from offering their draftees immediate extensions like other clubs do...??

Disagree. Fagan is bang on, though I think it should it should be a three year contract. We could and probably will lose Balic this year, guaranteed we'll get unders. It's bs and the AFL refuses to do anything about it. Shache will probably leave and Brisbane just wasted 2 years for 0 return and it pushes there rebuild back.

 

[johnthegardener]

Disagree. Fagan is bang on, though I think it should it should be a three year contract. We could and probably will lose Balic this year, guaranteed we'll get unders. It's bs and the AFL refuses to do anything about it. Shache will probably leave and Brisbane just wasted 2 years for 0 return and it pushes there rebuild back.

I really wonder if we will lose Balic this year. Especially when you take in the fact that Fremantle spend a lot of time & money in getting his wrist right and were quite happy to keep him on contract for a full year without virtually any return.

 

[Keys]

Fagan has a valid point - you get no return on players in the first two years. Typically players in their first two years become average output players for some of their second year. They are mostly potential for what they could become so non-Vic clubs in particular lose out badly after two years if they leave because they have no leverage and had got no real benefit. Look at us if we lost Balic this year for example.

Said something similar before but maybe if they want to go home at the end of two years they do not get to choose the club at all as long the club offering the best deal is in their home state. After say their first contract extension to the initial club that drafted them then they get to nominate.

The AFLPA are pushing for greater player mobility through free agency. One of the unintended side effects has been an increasing tendency for players wanting to move before they qualify for FA and nominating their preferred club in the process

The players can do this because they have the safety net of not having to go anywhere they don't agree to

One of the solutions to players looking to leave, particularly early in their career like Schache, is to enable clubs to trade players to the club that offers the better trade provided the contract value is equivalent to the players preferred destination

 

[danstar]

Fagan what a campaigner only finds a voice for footy issues now had plenty of opportunities to share his opinion at the Hawks and didnt.... Deadset flog

 

[Admiral Byng]

Amamzing goal from Dangerfield - hard on the boundary line and kicked it with his left. Just amazing.

 

[Righteo]

Cockatoo out for the game should prove to be significant

 

[Harry Reems]

Did Rick Hardon just refer to Josh Hill as a "Superstar"?

 

[Gussman]

Geelong currently on 50 tackles in a quarter and a half. 10 more then what they had the entire Essendon game.

Definitely a different team out there.

 

[youmewe]

Cockatoo out for the game should prove to be significant

You're right. They're much better off without him.

 

[wayToGo_]

Well that changed suddenly.

 

[westy1]

Should have been holding the ball

 

[The Anchorite]

Two Selwood frees on cue.

 

[Proud SJW]

I was wondering when they were going to start pinging that ruck-throw. Seen it a few times in recent weeks, but often a bit better disguised than that one.

 

[youmewe]

Well that changed suddenly.

As the actress said to the bishop at the orgy..."We're a Cockatoo short but should be ok."

 

[DMan 11]

Loving these close Friday night fixtures

 

[Righteo]

Boyd has been immense as their sole ruck tonight. Should have 3 goals instead of 2 as well.

 

[Purple Jesus]

That's game.

 

[meima]

Cloke momentum killer. At least collingwood not playing Mayne.

 

[Proud SJW]

Cloke momentum killer. At least collingwood not playing Mayne.

Yeah, I reckon the whole Mayne-bashing thing is getting a bit old, Meima.
I know you're not the only one but it's really beginning to s**t me.

 

[youmewe]

Don't know about the new Simonds Stadium.

Seems to have a real scoring end: 22.16 to 6.1 tonight. Might have a bit of a slope.

 

[meima]

Yeah, I reckon the whole Mayne-bashing thing is getting a bit old, Meima.
I know you're not the only one but it's really beginning to s**t me.

Fair enough .

 

[youmewe]

This is the 'streaks' round.

A number of games this round feature teams with long winning / losing streaks v their round rivals.

Geelong are now 11-0 v Western Bulldogs (15-1 over the past decade).
North are 15-0 v Melbourne over the past decade (longest active streak in AFL).
Hawthorn are 9-0 v Collingwood (all since Buckley took over).
Sydney are 6-0 v St Kilda.
Adelaide are 5-0 v Brisbane.

All the 'winning' teams are underdogs this week bar Adelaide.

 

[ChimpaWompa]

carlton have a 1-0 streak against us

 

[Freofalcon]

This is the 'streaks' round.

A number of games this round feature teams with long winning / losing streaks v their round rivals.

Geelong are now 11-0 v Western Bulldogs (15-1 over the past decade).
North are 15-0 v Melbourne over the past decade (longest active streak in AFL).
Hawthorn are 9-0 v Collingwood (all since Buckley took over).
Sydney are 6-0 v St Kilda.
Adelaide are 5-0 v Brisbane.

All the 'winning' teams are underdogs this week bar Adelaide.

Those sort of stats still don't help my tipping.

 

[wayToGo_]

carlton have a 1-0 streak against us

Damn you! Beat me to it.