I know exactly how that was handled behind the scenes, you don’t have an ex copper as an ‘integrity officer’ for nothing.
Regardless - no matter the club, nobody has been sacked for a DV incident.
Taylor won’t be either.
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I know exactly how that was handled behind the scenes, you don’t have an ex copper as an ‘integrity officer’ for nothing.
That would be fair enough I think - but given that it’s hit the headlines, the police will have to look at it tomorrow.
That would be fair enough I think - but given that it’s hit the headlines, the police will have to look at it tomorrow.
People really shouldnt be picking sides until more information comes out. DV is messed up. Almost equally messed up is false allegations.
Two teenagers broke up and one has lashed out on social media. Wait before judging either of them.
Both have issues? Need counselling?Whatever the truth is in this story, at the end of the day these two both have some very serious issues and need some very serious counselling. Hopefully this is the start of a new chapter for the both of them
Taylor is entitled to defend himself. The allegations have traduced his reputation. He will need to convincingly refute all of the allegations. If so, then investigators will need to ascertain all of the facts.
Onus isn't on him to prove his innocence, its on the accuser to prove his guilt. Very, very important distinction.
The onus is on him to refute all of the allegations. Of course it is. If he’s innocent he will readily do that.
That’s not inconsistent with the legal principle that the accuser has to prove his guilt. They are two different things.
The onus is on him to refute all of the allegations. Of course it is. If he’s innocent he will readily do that.
He doesn't need to refute anything, he can legally and literally sit there silent, refute nothing and if the case doesn't get proven guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, he is fine.
Archetypal example of reversing the onus and burden of proof in a criminal proceeding. Literally the opposite of how our criminal justice system is run.
Do you see how you're taking him to task to prove his innocence and how that's wrong?
Absolute rubbish. I am doing nothing of the sort.
The right to remain silent is a legal protection that we all have to prevent us from incriminating ourselves with our own evidence. He has that right. It is a legal right. It puts the onus on the accuser (prosecution) to prove guilt without the defendant providing evidence. It is perfectly legitimate to do this.
However to openly deny untrue and unfounded allegations is the act of protesting ones innocence. This is the difference. It confronts the allegations without hiding behind a legal right.
If someone is accused of criminal activity from fabricated evidence then it is natural that they deny what is alleged rather than clamming up. It does not lessen the burden of proof at a trial. To suggest otherwise is incorrect. Clear denial confronts the allegations head on with the same ‘not guilty’ plea. The accused says that ‘I did not do this. This is untrue’.
If the allegations against Taylor are untrue then it is natural that he does the latter. As an innocent man why wouldn’t he? In fact, you would expect him to. But it’s his choice.
The same burden of proof is required either way.
Agreed, big racist.Paige is the world’s biggest hypocrite. Hardly worth the copy and paste...
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Both have issues? Need counselling?
Her "issue" is that she has been beaten up and threatened by her partner. And he doesn't need counselling, he needs to be arrested.
I thought as a society we had moved past trying to shame and discredit women for speaking out against their abusers.
I believe her 100%. Whether or not she goes to the police is another matter many domestic violence victims are scared to take it further for one reason or another.
Disgraceful for a man to lay a hand on a woman let alone punch, choke, kick, etc. This is a straight up bashing.
I hope people don't start making excuses for him such as a bad childhood, etc.
In this case, with her photo, yes. I also have a tendency to believe and feel sorry for dv victims. If more were believed then maybe more would come forward.Why are you siding with her? Do you automatically assume all accusations are true?
In this case, with her photo, yes. I also have a tendency to believe and feel sorry for dv victims. If more were believed then maybe more would come forward.
I thought as a society we had moved past trying to shame and discredit women for speaking out against their abusers.
Nobody’s shaming or discrediting anyone. If Taylor’s as violent as claimed, end the relationship and report the violence to police. Maybe she just wants to “teach him a lesson” while continuing the relationship? Posting about it to her “followers” suggests it’s more a spat than a crime.