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So the Saints wanted to 'trade' Dunstan to the Crows, the crows were happy to have him but the AFL knocked it back?No. The crows were proposing that deal.
The AFL rejected it.
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So the Saints wanted to 'trade' Dunstan to the Crows, the crows were happy to have him but the AFL knocked it back?No. The crows were proposing that deal.
The AFL rejected it.
We negotiated a contract with Joe. We negotiated an extension to his contract.
Happens quite a bit.
Someone insert the Jurassic park nobody cares meme.
If it’s such a big deal change the compo system.
What do you mean by price out competitors?Not sure how this is allowed. What stops clubs and players coming to agreements behind closed doors that they sign extensions to lower the average salary after the initial free agency offer to price out competitors ?
I don’t really see how it’s a loop hole. I mean how is it any different to teams structuring the contracts of players going into the preseason draft so that no one else will match?
Arguably they are both against the spirit of the draft and free agency rules but the AFL is too paralysed to do anything about it.
If they make it too hard for clubs and players to get their way within the rules, clubs will just go old school and bust out the brown paper bags again… if they aren’t already…
Well a team could offer a player 700k a year for 3 years ,team b doesn’t think he’s worth it and doesn’t match/counter offer. 12 months later team A and player come to agreement to sign an “extension” for 300k a year. So instead of the player being on 700k a year, he’s now on 540k a year after it all averages outWhat do you mean by price out competitors?
Or the more sinister scenario is team A recruits One of team B’s very good players. Both teams are top 4. Not wanting to give team B a high end pick via compo, team A offer the player 3 years at 400k. Not enough for band 1 compo it forces team a and b into a trade where they could exchange picks or players that team a are willing to give up.What do you mean by price out competitors?
But you choose to go wherever you want as a free agent. You dont have to go to a club just because they have the most money. If the player wants to go to team B he names his price. If he wants to go to team A it makes no difference what team B is willing to offer.Well a team could offer a player 700k a year for 3 years ,team b doesn’t think he’s worth it and doesn’t match/counter offer. 12 months later team A and player come to agreement to sign an “extension” for 300k a year. So instead of the player being on 700k a year, he’s now on 540k a year after it all averages out
Some impressive mental gymnastics there. But ill try. In this scenario Team B matches obviously as you've stated. They can come to an agreement via trade which pleases both teams. Or if they arent able to come to an agreement the player is forced to the draft where they are fair game (at 3x 400k a year) and are snapped up by anyone. It makes no sense for either of the 2 clubs or the player to do this.Or the more sinister scenario is team A recruits One of team B’s very good players. Both teams are top 4. Not wanting to give team B a high end pick via compo, team A offer the player 3 years at 400k. Not enough for band 1 compo it forces team a and b into a trade where they could exchange picks or players that team a are willing to give up.
Following year the player agrees to an extension for an extra 2 years at 800k a year . Which originally would have given team B a very good pick
How often do players go to the draft in these situations ? Even more rare is players getting drafted against their will. We hear it every year , walk player to the draft but it just doesn’t happenSome impressive mental gymnastics there. But ill try. In this scenario Team B matches obviously as you've stated. They can come to an agreement via trade which pleases both teams. Or if they arent able to come to an agreement the player is forced to the draft where they are fair game (at 3x 400k a year) and are snapped up by anyone. It makes no sense for either of the 2 clubs or the player to do this.
I don’t think there are many free agent offers that come through that Havnt had pretty solid involvement from the player, if they are getting a free agent offer I’d guess there is a 90% chance that’s the club he wants to play forBut you choose to go wherever you want as a free agent. You dont have to go to a club just because they have the most money. If the player wants to go to team B he names his price. If he wants to go to team A it makes no difference what team B is willing to offer.
You're right because in that situation there are no winners. Which is why win win scenarios like the Daniher deal are goodHow often do players go to the draft in these situations ? Even more rare is players getting drafted against their will. We hear it every year , walk player to the draft but it just doesn’t happen
Correct, which is why your original worry about pricing out competitors confused me. A free agent will get to wherever he wants.I don’t think there are many free agent offers that come through that Havnt had pretty solid involvement from the player, if they are getting a free agent offer I’d guess there is a 90% chance that’s the club he wants to play for
What if a player is fielding numerous offers ?Correct, which is why your original worry about pricing out competitors confused me. A free agent will get to wherever he wants.
They still choose the club they want to go to.What if a player is fielding numerous offers ?