Prediction 2023 - Best 22 + Emergencies - Rolling

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Amazing that none of us would have thought this is our best 22, but it certainly is the best team we've fielded this season :eek:

Who are we missing?
We are missing a ruck, but apart from that who would you drop?

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Rucks aside, it's a strong 22.
 
Amazing that none of us would have thought this is our best 22, but it certainly is the best team we've fielded this season :eek:

Who are we missing?
We are missing a ruck, but apart from that who would you drop?

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After the way they played, this best 22 is pretty hard to :)

Amazing, who would have thought hey
e.g. Fogarty adds so much to the team
 
Bump.

So our recent run of form and injuries has certainly made trying to pick a best 22 interesting.

Hypothetically we make the 8.

Cerra, Walsh, Kennedy, Durdin, Harry and SOS are all fit.

Boyd is back from suspension.

Thats 7 guys that you could argue all are best 22.

Who are you picking to take into a final against Essendon to banish them to another 365 days without winning a final?
 

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Bump.

So our recent run of form and injuries has certainly made trying to pick a best 22 interesting.

Hypothetically we make the 8.

Cerra, Walsh, Kennedy, Durdin, Harry and SOS are all fit.

Boyd is back from suspension.

Thats 7 guys that you could argue all are best 22.

Who are you picking to take into a final against Essendon to banish them to another 365 days without winning a final?
Kemp Weitering Newman
Saad Mcgovern Cincotta
Acres Cripps Docherty
Cunners Mckay Fogarty
Martin Curnow Durdin
TDK Cerra Walsh

JSOS Kennedy Boyd Hollands
 
Kemp Weitering Newman
Saad Mcgovern Cincotta
Acres Cripps Docherty
Cunners Mckay Fogarty
Martin Curnow Durdin
TDK Cerra Walsh

JSOS Kennedy Boyd Hollands

Solid line up, yet others are well in contention

Pitto, Owies, Mots would be very still to miss out due to structure and or current output
 
Kemp Weitering Newman
Saad Mcgovern Cincotta
Acres Cripps Docherty
Cunners Mckay Fogarty
Martin Curnow Durdin
TDK Cerra Walsh

JSOS Kennedy Boyd Hollands

I like this line up, but I’m making two minor adjustment

Kemp Weitering Newman
Saad Mcgovern Cincotta
Acres Cripps Docherty
Cunners Mckay Fogarty
Martin Curnow Motlop
TDK Cerra Walsh

JSOS Kennedy Boyd Marchbank
Sub Hollands (or swap with Kennedy)

IMO Marchbank will prove his importance to the team - as per Cunners, Fogarty & Martin in recent weeks
 
I like this line up, but I’m making two minor adjustment

Kemp Weitering Newman
Saad Mcgovern Cincotta
Acres Cripps Docherty
Cunners Mckay Fogarty
Martin Curnow Motlop
TDK Cerra Walsh

JSOS Kennedy Boyd Marchbank
Sub Hollands (or swap with Kennedy)

IMO Marchbank will prove his importance to the team - as per Cunners, Fogarty & Martin in recent weeks
Marchbank invented intercepting.

It’s game over for opposition forward entries when he strings 2-3 games together.
 
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Right now, I'd probably go:

Kemp Weitering Newman
Williams McGovern Boyd

Acres Cripps Docherty
De Koning Cerra Walsh

Silvagni McKay Cuningham
Motlop Curnow Martin

Boyd Kennedy Cottrell Fogarty

Hewett

Cincotta Owies Pittonet

Then looking to the future, the likes of Durdin, Hollands, Cowan, Binns, Carroll to be pushing their case for the following year (some of those I'm more hopeful than confident). Could definitely see Durdin overtaking Owies & Fogarty and Hollands taking Cottrell's place.
 

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This is getting really hard, like a lot of really good sides we have a best 25-30, many interchangeable due to form and fitness.

If I had to pick a team that I would be curious about how it would go it would be this one.

B: Kemp Weithering Newman
HB: Saad McGovern Williams
C: Acres Cripps Hollands
HF: Motlop McKay Owies
HF: Martin Curnow Durdin
F: DeKoning Cerra Walsh
IC: Boyd Kennedy Docherty Silvagni
Sub: Dow
EM: Cuningham Cincotta Marchbank Hewett
Depth: Cottrell Pittonet Fogarty

Reckon it's a team that has a lot of good speed, pressure, skills etc. Gee a lot of good players left out though. It could lack some forward/mids. Which means Cuningham comes in.

A lot of questions remain. Which small forwards do I go with. Still think Durdin is best 22 and would thrive with our new ball movement. Silvagni or Pittonet as second ruck? What about the rotations? Forwards who go into the middle are valuable as Cuningham and Fogarty have proven. Kennedy or Hewett? Who is the sub? Is it a specialist position? If so Dow has made an extremely good sub with his speed, clearance and burst from stoppages doing a lot of damage or could Cuningham be better? Someone else? Motlop and Owies all of a sudden too good to drop? McGovern or Marchbank?

I think that group of 30 is a really good group and is pretty set. I don't think the combination on the field makes a massive difference. Not really something you can really get wrong when there is plenty of quality.

I've been saying if for a while now, it's a pretty good list, just the game plan and fitness has not been that great. One of those has changed, fitness of he group is still an issue. Tick that box and we can win flags with this group.

Best list we have had this centaury.
 
This is getting really hard, like a lot of really good sides we have a best 25-30, many interchangeable due to form and fitness.

If I had to pick a team that I would be curious about how it would go it would be this one.

B: Kemp Weithering Newman
HB: Saad McGovern Williams
C: Acres Cripps Hollands
HF: Motlop McKay Owies
HF: Martin Curnow Durdin
F: DeKoning Cerra Walsh
IC: Boyd Kennedy Docherty Silvagni
Sub: Dow
EM: Cuningham Cincotta Marchbank Hewett
Depth: Cottrell Pittonet Fogarty

Reckon it's a team that has a lot of good speed, pressure, skills etc. Gee a lot of good players left out though. It could lack some forward/mids. Which means Cuningham comes in.

A lot of questions remain. Which small forwards do I go with. Still think Durdin is best 22 and would thrive with our new ball movement. Silvagni or Pittonet as second ruck? What about the rotations? Forwards who go into the middle are valuable as Cuningham and Fogarty have proven. Kennedy or Hewett? Who is the sub? Is it a specialist position? If so Dow has made an extremely good sub with his speed, clearance and burst from stoppages doing a lot of damage or could Cuningham be better? Someone else? Motlop and Owies all of a sudden too good to drop? McGovern or Marchbank?

I think that group of 30 is a really good group and is pretty set. I don't think the combination on the field makes a massive difference.

I've been saying if for a while now, it's a pretty good list, just the game plan and fitness has not been that great. One of those has changed, fitness of he group is still an issue. Tick that box and we can win flags with this group.

Can't see Dow playing ahead of Hewett, Cuners, Cotts in a mid/forward role
 
Can't see Dow playing ahead of Hewett, Cuners, Cotts in a mid/forward role
Had him as a specialist sub. Dow coming on, particularly later in games, he seems to have a big impact, gets plenty of it and with plenty of hurt factor. More than those names would in the sub role. Cuningham could have an impact as sub but IMO sub role is a specialist role and Dow has been as good as any. Hewett was useless coming on as sub recently, Cottrell is a grinder, not a high impact player, his impact is over time not over a short duration. Neither are going to come on as tactical sub and have a big impact on a game in a quarter in a half. Dow has done that for us.

Unless you have someone named in the side who is likely to come out through fitness or they are under an injury cloud and you want a like for like, the sub needs to be a player who can have a big impact and since the rule has been around, Dow has probably been the best player to come on and impact a game in a short period of time as the sub.

Horses for courses. I think the sub is a specialist role, not just the next best player. Has to be someone who can have an impact in a short period and has that hurt factor.

Fair argument for Cuningham but he has periods where he just does not get near it too often. Don't want a tactical sub coming on and struggling to find it. Dow hasn't got that problem.

Another good sub is Silvagni but I would have him in the side.

You would play Cincotta ahead of Cunners, Hewett and Cottrell is you needed a backman even though he is not generally as good a player as those mentioned. You play Dow ahead of all of those as a sub because he's better in that role than they are.

I reckon this is something Voss may have clued onto. Used Dow as sub quite a lot and no I don't think that is due to availability. Dow probably not a 4 quarter grinder like a lot of our mids are but over a shorter period he has a big influence. A hand full of break away runs from stoppages, we score from that a lot, next thing we are a few extra goals up. Something a lot of those players who just grind away all day like the ones you mentioned don't do much.
 
Something like

B: Kemp, Weitering, Cincotta
HB: Saad, McGovern, Newman
C: Acres, Cerrra, Cottrell
HF: Martin, McKay, Cuningham
F: Silvagni, Charlie, Motlop
Foll: TDK, Cripps, Walsh

I/C: Hewett, Owies, Docherty

And then, depending on where we play Doc (likely wing/mid so Hollands misses out), Marchy/Fish/Boyd fighting for the 7th defender spot.

And then do we want the extra ruck? Pitto v Fogerty.

Sub: Dow/Kennedy

Edit: oops, I put in 1 too many. Fog misses. Owies v Pitto, I'd lean Owies.
 
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Zac Fisher has entered the conversation
I am one of his great sceptics but his last 2 weeks at half back l have been transformational, so much so that I have put him in my best 23 as part of the small backs rotation.

I’m rolling with this:
Saad, Weitering, Kemp
Newman, McGovern, Cincotta
Acres, Cripps, Docherty
Martin, McKay, Cuningham
Silvagni, Curnow, Owies
De Koning, Cerra, Walsh
Motlop, Fisher, Hewett, Cottrell
Kennedy

Some really tough calls - Dow, Hollands Boyd Marchbank and Fogarty all very unlucky - but IMO this is the right balance.
 
I don’t think it’s possible ever to have a full squad fit at the same time - so really the best 22 isn’t tooooo relevant.

Nonetheless. Hypothetically.

FB: Kemp - Weitering - Williams
HB: Saad - McGovern - Newman

C: Acres - Cripps - Docherty
OB: De Koning - Cerra - Walsh

HF: Martin - McKay - Cuningham
FF: Silvagni - Curnow - Owies

Interchange: Cincotta, Hewett, Fogarty and Cottrell.


I think we should stay with picking four primary midfielders. Thus, Kennedy and Dow are next man up.
 
Assuming everyone bar Zac Williams is fit for the first final v St Kilda, how do we line up?.. Is going to be some very unlucky players who have put in the hard yards during our resurgence that will miss.
 
Elimination final team

Boyd Weitering Kemp
Newman McGovern Saad

TDK Cripps Cerra
Walsh Hewitt Acres

Martin McKay Fogarty
Owies Curnow Silvagni

Docherty Cuningham Kennedy Marchbank
Sub: Hollands
Personally I'd have Cottrell in, but if that's the 23, I'd be much more comfortable with Hollands in the 22 and Kennedy sub.
 
Elimination final team

Boyd Weitering Kemp
Newman McGovern Saad

TDK Cripps Cerra
Walsh Hewitt Acres

Martin McKay Fogarty
Owies Curnow Silvagni

Docherty Cuningham Kennedy Marchbank
Sub: Hollands

Nice side.

The key decisions i think for Voss and the selectors to make

Boyd or Cincotta
Is there a role for Marchbank
Can Harry play 2nd ruck, and if so, it becomes a choice of 2 of Silvagni, Fogarty & Motlop..
I think Walsh plays in the guts, which then means Hollands or Cotters play on the wing.. but then what of Hewett & Kennedy, not sure you can play both.

Cincotta, Weiters, Kemp
Newman, Gov, Saad

Acres, Walsh, Cotterell
TDK, Cripps, Cerra

Motlop, McKay, Martin
Owies, Curnow, JSOS

Hewett, Cunningham, Fogarty, Dow
Sub - Kennedy
 

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