Autopsy AFL 2023 Grand Final - Pies vs Lions Sat Sept 30th 2:30pm EST (MCG)

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

Biggest ever comeback in a grand final at 3/4 is 24 points in 1984. They’d want to be a bit closer I’d reckon.

Maybe, but it's all mental. They'll both be knackered at that stage with the heat, in this scenario.
The crowd starts "Coooollingwoood, Coooollingwoood", get a quick goal or two, and tired Lions could try and save it, which won't end well if 20 points up with 15 minutes to go...

 

[No SPIN]

Three teams have 16 flags, no need to try and rewrite history. Facts are facts. Im PRAYING the bombers will be the first to 17!

EFA

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

The same Champion Data that had Melbourne beating Collingwood in the first final; GWS beating Collingwood in the Prelim and Brisbane beating Collingwood in the Grannie. The only thing 'champion' about Champion Data is their consistent irrelevancy.

The same Champion Data that had Grundy as the highest rated ruckman in the comp halfway through the year lol

 

[Piepiepie]

From my perspective in the stands, Crisp was massive. Surprised he only got 2 votes for the Norm Smith.

But of course Bobby Hill was sensational… big scenes on Smith Street Collingwood with fans singing “Nanananananana Bobby Hill, Bobby Hill, Bobby f***ing Hill”!

 

[pz5151]

Expected score according to Champion Data Collingwood 90, Brisbane 67. I felt watching it live that we didn’t miss too many easy shots and that Hrisbane were taking every chance so that backs it up.

 

[PieLebo87]

Expected score according to Champion Data Collingwood 90, Brisbane 67. I felt watching it live that we didn’t miss too many easy shots and that Hrisbane were taking every chance so that backs it up.

But but but advantage!!! #VICBIAS

 

[hirdylloydy1]

I see you’re back for some more today

How has your morning been in a Collingwood premiership?

*premiership

 

[PieLebo87]

*premiership

I know, it’s beautiful.

 

[Ischenko]

It is okay to admit Frampton is a complete dud. He played a terrible game and was lucky to be on the right side of the result.

Every year a few stinkers slip through.

It is unfortunate that McStay and Adams couldn’t be there but the grand final is about the 23 on the day. History says Frampton is a premiership player. Has done more than us blokes arguing about him. But he’s no good.

My God you are just one moronic take after another. What is wrong with your brain mate? Frampton completely negated Andrews’ intercept marking game. Huge win for the pies.

You’d expect people who spend most of their lives on a football forum to have some idea that teams need defensive role players and that these players are as important to a side as attacking players like Daicos. How can you watch football every week and not understand this?

 

[Ischenko]

*premiership

You are embarrassing yourself. Fancy and Essendon supporter throwing asterisks around.

 

[Chronz]

Three teams have 16 flags, no need to try and rewrite history. Facts are facts. Im feeling the bombers will be the first to 17!

I'd be more concerned about winning a final (close to 7000 days without winning one ) first.

 

[Xtreme]

Finished a fourth viewing, some of those goals kicked were amazing. Collingwood really should have belted Brisbane by much more if it wasn't for their inaccuracy.

 

[hirdylloydy1]

I'd be more concerned about winning a final (close to 7000 days without winning one ) first.

Next year!

 

[Fadge]

Any news on who won the Gary ayres Medal?

this is the latest update I can find

Gary Ayres Medal 2023 leaderboard: Sam Walsh wins AFL finals honour | Sporting News Australia

The Gary Ayers Award is handed to the best-performing player in the AFL Finals Series. As of 2022, votes received in the AFL Grand Final will receive a 1.5x loading.

www.sportingnews.com

Sam Walsh will win it.

 

[Walter H White]

Frampton with a -4.1 player rating from Champion Data. Even worse than Hipwood at -3.9. These ratings aren't the be all and end all, but are Pies fans still going to justify his game as anything less than a shambles?

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Sam Walsh will win it.

Congratulations on the win Fadge - well done mate - enjoy the win

You will feel like Royalty in the off season - and those troublesome Richmond and Carlton posters - they will feel like Peasants

 

[Robertio]

Well done Pies deserved the premiership, DeGoey, Sidebottom, Crisp and Hill all stood up in big moments, Lions were terrific in defeat, maybe next year.

 

[stormskye]

norm smith of this thread definitely goes to hirdylloydy1. Some truly exceptional posting

 

[stormskye]

Frampton with a -4.1 player rating from Champion Data. Even worse than Hipwood at -3.9. These ratings aren't the be all and end all, but are Pies fans still going to justify his game as anything less than a shambles?

Mcstay injured. Johnson broken arm. Reef shoulder injured. Frampton was all we had left tbh

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

Three teams have 16 flags, no need to try and rewrite history. Facts are facts. Im feeling the bombers will be the first to 17!

To be fair, Bombers and Carlton are behind Collingwood.

Carlton 16 flags, 5 spoons
Essendon 16 flags, 5 spoons

Pies 16 flags, 2 spoons

 

[Mitchell Madness]

To be fair, Bombers and Carlton are behind Collingwood.

Carlton 16 flags, 5 spoons
Essendon 16 flags, 5 spoons

Pies 16 flags, 2 spoons

Essendon won one when there was no fraud final
Carlton - well, let's ignore the paper bags
Collingwood won a few when losing a prelim

Noone has a legitimate 16 flags

 

[freddy mercury]

Two things i don't get, is it a requirement to wear your playing guernsey over your white shirt with dress shoes and slacks when you win the flag?

And also, what's sunk in? Still hasn't sunk in? How aren't you aware you've won the flag?

 

[PieLebo87]

Essendon won one when there was no fraud final
Carlton - well, let's ignore the paper bags
Collingwood won a few when losing a prelim

Noone has a legitimate 16 flags

Your last premiership was won after losing to then getting another crack at your GF opposition.

Make sure to scrap that out of the record books. Not to mention you’ve also won previous flags having lost a Qualifying final.

 

[PieLebo87]

Two things i don't get, is it a requirement to wear your playing guernsey over your white shirt with dress shoes and slacks when you win the flag?

You ever won a flag before as a footy player? That guernsey is cherished.

And also, what's sunk in? Still hasn't sunk in? How aren't you aware you've won the flag?

Imagine you work on that one project for 9 months of a year and it has a 95% chance of failing, but you pull it off. How would that make you feel?

 

[freddy mercury]

You ever won a flag before as a footy player? That guernsey is cherished.



Imagine you work on that one project for 9 months of a year and it has a 95% chance of failing, but you pull it off. How would that make you feel?

Its such a stupid thing to say, oh yeh nah mate, still hasn't sunk into my brain that I'm a premiership player. It'll take me a few days to process it

 

[Ischenko]

Andrews was rated Brisbane's third best player by Champion Data.

yeah we had a bloke from there do our recruiting and list management for a bit. What a great decision that proved to be. Andrews had no impact on the game. Champion data is for SuperCoach nerds, fantasy points are just that, fantasy.