Traded Bryce Gibbs [traded to Adelaide] - (cont. in Part 2)

[Wild Bill]

I have not seen a lot of the Blues this year but Gibbs game yesterday was huge.

The Crows can win this years flag and deserve to be equal favs with GWS - I agree with Chism however and that Gibbs would def improve the Crows chances even further.

Yesterday class stood out when the heat in the game went up - both Higgins and Gibbs were incredible - these players win you finals.

 

[FyfeToAdelaide]

I would say the main reason the trade didnt go through would be a front ended contract having had gibbs on cheaper years for the remainder when he asks for a trade wtf would the team give that up.. No fault of the crows and no fault of carlton.. If gibbs wanted out he shouldn't of signed such a contract.

But every good game he has carlton fans will come in here and say crows should have overpaid for him... if we fall short this year they'll be in here singing we would of made it with Gibbs.

 

[Ian Dunross]

Officially the bitchiest thread on BF

Terrible reading

 

[pinot]

I have not seen a lot of the Blues this year but Gibbs game yesterday was huge.

The Crows can win this years flag and deserve to be equal favs with GWS - I agree with Chism however and that Gibbs would def improve the Crows chances even further.

Yesterday class stood out when the heat in the game went up - both Higgins and Gibbs were incredible - these players win you finals.

Absolutely correct you would throw top 10 picks for Higgins and Gibbs if your premiership window is open for next 2-5 years. They are quality.

 

[1970crow]

As of right now Gibbs is an absolute LOCK to be your 2nd best Mid behind Sloane not to mention the pressure he will take of Rory in a game.

If this aspect alone is not worth trading for with regards to the current Crows premiership window you guys should never/negotiate trade again and if you want quality players that are missing links to flag tilts you have to pay to get them with more than s**t and steak knives.

2 things bring Carlton muppets back to this thread, an Adelaide loss and a Bryce A grade game. Luckily both are expected only a few times this year. And Gibbs is behind M Crouch and level pegging with Brad. But when we're going well, he'd be a very handy addition. When our 3 insiders are getting smoked like they did against the Roos and Demons, Gibbs would be about as useful as Mackay.

 

[Wild Bill]

2 things bring Carlton muppets back to this thread, an Adelaide lis and Bryce A grade game. Luckily both are expected only a few times this year. And Gibbs is behind M Crouch and level pegging with Brad. But when we're going well, he'd be a very handy addition. When our 3 insiders are getting smoked like they did against the Roos and Demons, Gibbs would be about as useful as Mackay.

He and Kruzer were the only ones showing anything when we smoked them in the 1st quarter and a half. He showed more than every one of your mids when we did the same thing to you. Your under rating him.

You have grunt - you need class.

 

[1970crow]

One thing for sure, Gibbs is not the B-grade player some describe in this thread.

And showing exactly why Carlton decided he was so important to retain at this point of the young lists development. SOS' "greed and arrogance" has some real long term potential payoff with these kids' development.

A couple of A grade games does not an A-grader make. It's been mentioned and accepted numerous times that he's a solid B grader that is capable of the odd A grade game. That you numpties soiled your pants every one of the 3 times he's been better than B grade or we lose a game is laughable. Just get over the fact that we refused to pay the exorbitant price set. That you feel to keep posting in here instead of enjoying your charge speaks volumes.

 

[1970crow]

He and Kruzer were the only ones showing anything when we smoked them in the 1st quarter and a half. He showed more than every one of your mids when we did the same thing to you. Your under rating him.

You have grunt - you need class.

It's one game dude. He's having a good year, but he's no A-grader worth 2 firsts. When he plays an ordinary game, should I come in here and say he's just a C-grade mid? You can't judge a player on a one week form line. Solid B-grader, always has been and that's where his year is as a whole. But I'd definitely have paid a first plus change for him.

 

[Tushay]

A couple of A grade games does not an A-grader make. It's been mentioned and accepted numerous times that he's a solid B grader that is capable of the odd A grade game. That you numpties soiled your pants every one of the 3 times he's been better than B grade or we lose a game is laughable. Just get over the fact that we refused to pay the exorbitant price set. That you feel to keep posting in here instead of enjoying your charge speaks volumes.

Why are you still here then?

 

[Jeremias]

Bryce Gibbs behind Brad Crouch?

Please.

 

[F_therest]

2 things bring Carlton muppets back to this thread, an Adelaide loss and a Bryce A grade game. Luckily both are expected only a few times this year. And Gibbs is behind M Crouch and level pegging with Brad. But when we're going well, he'd be a very handy addition. When our 3 insiders are getting smoked like they did against the Roos and Demons, Gibbs would be about as useful as Mackay.

Even though im a Carlton supporter looking at this thread objectively...yeah s**t being thrown from both sides but gee there's lots of Adelaide supporters whinging and painting Carlton as the 'bad guys' for demanding 2 x 1sts for Gibbs.

Yes that's overs, we all know it. But we didn't want to lose him and he still had 2 years to go on his contract...IF we were to lose him we wanted overs as compensation, which is our right for a contracted player. We need him to protect our young kids.

Your offer of pick 13 and a 3rd rounder was way unders as well.

 

[Monkey King]

A couple of A grade games does not an A-grader make.

"A couple of A grade games". Lol. A diminutive description of his game on the weekend. Not a B-grade player's game, but probably you didn't even watch it.

As Wild Bill points out, you're underrating him. Champion Data ranks Gibbs ahead of both Couch's - in fact, he'd be your best mid behind Sloane. Not that this is a definitive measure, but it is an objective one.

 

[Roughies Boys]

Would Carlton gett Ellis-Yolmen or Tom Doedee out of a trade with Adelaide?

 

[Jeremias]

Would Carlton gett Ellis-Yolmen or Tom Doedee out of a trade with Adelaide?

The better question is whether we'd want either of them.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Because outside of Sloane you guys are rubbish in the midfield.

Lol, champion data says otherwise!

We are going ok on top of the ladder with this rubbish midfield.

Perhaps one day you will actually watch Crows games to discover there is talent outside of Carlton & GWS...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Gibbs not going anywhere.. he is a natural and will play for another five years to guide our youngsters

Hope you are right.

 

[VictorianCrow85]

Bryce Gibbs behind Brad Crouch?

Please.

Gibbs is ahead of Brad Crouch at present for sure. Whether it stays that way as time goes by will be interesting. The key for Brad is to just stay fit and keep getting continuity into himself and his body at AFL level. Think on the weekend he started showing glimpses of the player he can be but needs to build on that and bring consistency. Gibbs is having a good year so far, a credit to him as a person for not spitting the dummy over not getting what he wanted and honoring his contract.

 

[F_therest]

Would Carlton gett Ellis-Yolmen or Tom Doedee out of a trade with Adelaide?

Based on what we apparently asked for last year, i doubt SOS would be interested in those 2.

Like last year, i think we'd attempt to either get high draft picks or a player like Charlie Cameron, McGovern or Lever...3 of the more apparently 'gettable' young guns.

Not saying we'll get them, just saying that's what we'll be aiming for and i don't think we'll accept the likes of EY and Doedee.

 

[F_therest]

Gibbs is ahead of Brad Crouch at present for sure. Whether it stays that way as time goes by will be interesting. The key for Brad is to just stay fit and keep getting continuity into himself and his body at AFL level. Think on the weekend he started showing glimpses of the player he can be but needs to build on that and bring consistency. Gibbs is having a good year so far, a credit to him as a person for not spitting the dummy over not getting what he wanted and honoring his contract.

Gibbs has been a star for the last few years now...it's a shame his best years are in a way wasted in a bottom team that's rebuilding. Same with Murphy & Simpson.

Their stellar performances should be rewarded with more wins. They would be if people like Malthouse and Hughes (ex head recruiter) didn't stuff us up so badly.

 

[bmaurizio]

Gibbs is ahead of Brad Crouch at present for sure. Whether it stays that way as time goes by will be interesting. The key for Brad is to just stay fit and keep getting continuity into himself and his body at AFL level. Think on the weekend he started showing glimpses of the player he can be but needs to build on that and bring consistency. Gibbs is having a good year so far, a credit to him as a person for not spitting the dummy over not getting what he wanted and honoring his contract.[/QUOTE

Agree, Gibbs has been very professional in all aspects showing very good form maintaining a great physic which keeps him on the park and positive mentoring and attitude.
Makes him a pretty special type of footballer.

 

[Monkey King]

... but gee there's lots of Adelaide supporters whinging and painting Carlton as the 'bad guys' for demanding 2 x 1sts for Gibbs.

Yes that's overs, we all know it. But we didn't want to lose him and he still had 2 years to go on his contract...IF we were to lose him we wanted overs as compensation, which is our right for a contracted player.

Your offer of pick 13 and a 3rd rounder was way unders as well.

This is pretty much it. The Crows were never going to snag a required contracted player who'd be their second best mid for pick 15 and chips. That was just not being realistic. And the Blues, well they didn't want to give up the player, but as they said from the outset, would consider it if presented with a compelling offer (read - clearly above market value) and pick 15 was undoubtedly far from compelling.

Both sides acted in the perceived best interests of their clubs. Whether they were right or not, only time will tell, but it hasn't hurt either club to this point.

 

[1970crow]

Would Carlton gett Ellis-Yolmen or Tom Doedee out of a trade with Adelaide?

Ellis-Yolmen wouldn't be wanted. Doedee is looking like he'll be a very good footballer, but you need to take into account his limited history in the game, his 2 interrupted preseasons and his very good SANFL performances. All these add up to him being near worthless at the trade table. Odds on that Gibbs will remain a Blue.

 

[bmaurizio]

Ellis-Yolmen wouldn't be wanted. Doedee is looking like he'll be a very good footballer, but you need to take into account his limited history in the game, his 2 interrupted preseasons and his very good SANFL performances. All these add up to him being near worthless at the trade table. Odds on that Gibbs will remain a Blue.

Should a fair exchange be reached I'm fine with tha , but honestly I can't see him in any other jumper than Navy Blue. Hopefully , Gibbs , Murphy and Kreuszer remain one Club players. Go Baggers

 

[pinot]

Goddard to play on until 32-33 years old

Gibbs has many years in front of him without any serious injuries.. he is very durable and reliable

 

[Navara79]

Crows could have done with Gibbs tonight. Crows midfield is getting smashed