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[Torpedro]

Compare the pair:

Both key forwards
Their 4 most recent games





One guy was 24
One was 22

One was playing 20 minute quarters
One was playing 16 minute quarters

One has no future in the AFL
One might

Himmelberg also took 8 contested marks and 6 marks inside 50 across those games
Frampton has taken 5 contested and 4 i50 in comparison

A fair few people seem to have turned on Himmelberg again. I get that his form this year hasn’t been great but he’s shown more at AFL level than Frampton ever has and he deserves another good chance to prove himself

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Compare the pair:

Both key forwards
Their 4 most recent games
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One guy was 24
One was 22

One was playing 20 minute quarters
One was playing 16 minute quarters

One has no future in the AFL
One might

Himmelberg also took 8 contested marks and 6 marks inside 50 across those games
Frampton has taken 5 contested and 4 i50 in comparison

A fair few people seem to have turned on Himmelberg again. I get that his form this year hasn’t been great but he’s shown more at AFL level than Frampton ever has and he deserves another good chance to prove himself

What we've done with the Frampton selection is pure stupidity

 

[rabidcrow]

Compare the pair:

Both key forwards
Their 4 most recent games
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One guy was 24
One was 22

One was playing 20 minute quarters
One was playing 16 minute quarters

One has no future in the AFL
One might

Himmelberg also took 8 contested marks and 6 marks inside 50 across those games
Frampton has taken 5 contested and 4 i50 in comparison

A fair few people seem to have turned on Himmelberg again. I get that his form this year hasn’t been great but he’s shown more at AFL level than Frampton ever has and he deserves another good chance to prove himself

Himmelberg has shown far more and I thought last year looked one of our beet u23 players. Baffled with what he must have done behind the scenes to not be getting picked. I assume if he doesn’t get picked in the next couple of rounds that he won’t be here next year. Amazing turn around in an off season


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[UcantCme]

Good options although I would keep McAdam and push Worrell forward for Tex. I would also drop McHenry for Newchurch

Ned has been good, I love his aggression and pressure

No way Worrell plays forward, it just doesn't happen these days that a player who has trained all pre-seasom in the back half is suddenly told you are now a forward

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[Maddogmetro]

Why though? We've already tried this and he's shown no ability to do so and hasn't even got close to it at SANFL level.

AFL level he's required to play HFF or FP where he's even less likely to do anything to prove his worth, he'll get 5-10 touches and a couple of shots to run through the midfield without doing much. Even with structure improvements this year, he was given ample opportunities in the middle last year. Unless he can start to show some actual improvement at SANFL level he shouldn't be gifted another game imo.

Because what do we have to lose?

High draft pick, we are in a rebuild - this is the time to take risks to see if a player has it or not (and in Chayce's case, I guess one final chance).

 

[Crow till I die]

Because what do we have to lose?

High draft pick, we are in a rebuild - this is the time to take risks to see if a player has it or not (and in Chayce's case, I guess one final chance).

At this stage I'd rather draft latchford to the rookie list and give him a crack ahead of Jones. At least he puts in consistently good efforts at SANFL level and is only a top up player to boot

 

[Vader]

What?????? Fogarty you say? Replaced Sloane you say?? First I've heard you mention this idea

Jeez our coaches must be stupid. Instead of changing the mix in mids with rotations and different combinations, they just put Fog's magnet where Sloane's would be ... and dust their hands off after a job well done?

They lost a midfielder/running player in Sloane, and replaced him with a slow, immobile tall in Fogarty. Any way you shuffle the magnets, they still left us short one midfielder/running type player.

Normally you rob Peter to pay Paul. By selecting Fogarty they robbed both Peter (midfield) and Paul (forward line) and paid nobody.

 

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Compare the pair:

Both key forwards
Their 4 most recent games
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One guy was 24
One was 22

One was playing 20 minute quarters
One was playing 16 minute quarters

One has no future in the AFL
One might

Himmelberg also took 8 contested marks and 6 marks inside 50 across those games
Frampton has taken 5 contested and 4 i50 in comparison

A fair few people seem to have turned on Himmelberg again. I get that his form this year hasn’t been great but he’s shown more at AFL level than Frampton ever has and he deserves another good chance to prove himself

It makes no sense at all why the club is playing Frampton over Himmelberg, it made zero sense in the pre-season and makes even less sense now.

We all used to give Jerka a hard time back in the day, but honestly Frampton is so bad that he actually makes Jerka look like Buddy in comparison.

 

[CrowBloke]

Frampton for Thilthorpe has needed to occur for a few weeks.

I've been hoping for this for two weeks after the GC game, but I've given up.
Nicks sees things in Frampton's consistent ineptitude that have escaped my attention, yours and others'.
Nicks is the Coach, not us; it's his job on the line, but he'll lose a lot of supporter confidence if he continues to back Frampton in. These issues:
--- re-selecting underperforming players
--- insistence upon "continuity" over selecting to improve the side and blood rookies, and
--- playing injured senior players
will result in Nicks taking the Crows no further than mid-table mediocrity while he is Coach.

 

[Scorpus]

If only it was Frampton that got busted with drugs

 

[Bearded Clam]

Himmelberg has shown far more and I thought last year looked one of our beet u23 players. Baffled with what he must have done behind the scenes to not be getting picked. I assume if he doesn’t get picked in the next couple of rounds that he won’t be here next year. Amazing turn around in an off season


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There’s no conspiracy.. frampton hasnt got mookays photos.. Nicks isnt favouring Frampton because of some obscure relationship that was build between the two at Port... theres no case of pure stupidity involved.. no confusing headscratching needed as
theres nothing baffling about it..

Its purely about frampton having a better start to the season and himmelberg being hot garbage during all the trial matches and the first two sanfl games. Framptons early season form saw him given the green light ahead of Elliot and Elliot hasnt done enough to take the spot back off him.

its pretty simple and very easy to see if you have really watched all the games this year..

last years form/stats mean nothing if you turn up at the start of the next season and dish up dogshit in the trial matches and then look sooky and disinterested when, in turn, you dont get an immediate call up into the AFL side based on what you showed last year.

Himm had an alright game last week, his first for the year really.. took some good marks and looked like his attitude had changed...

lets just wait and see if it was enough to convince the selectors he deserves a call up.. and give up on the conspiracy theories and feeling bad for the lad..

 

[Vhaluus]

Frampton should never have been traded for let alone played.

 

[CrowBloke]

How bad was he exactly?

*sighs*
To be fair, his first quarter was not bad, contested ok, kicked one decent footpass from memory.
If you watch first 20 seconds of highlights, he is in No-Man's-Land for Tex's mark, does not compete, falls over; sums him up.
Invisible after that; missed a set shot for goal from 35m out, slight angle, went ootf out to the right.
Drafted @ #84 in 2014 draft, has played 11 AFL games in that time, kicked 11 goals.

He's been given several chances now in the face of poor form to lift his game and prove himself. Dud/spud, delist I'd say.

 

[StonesThrow]

Compare the pair:

Both key forwards
Their 4 most recent games
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One guy was 24
One was 22

One was playing 20 minute quarters
One was playing 16 minute quarters

One has no future in the AFL
One might

Himmelberg also took 8 contested marks and 6 marks inside 50 across those games
Frampton has taken 5 contested and 4 i50 in comparison

A fair few people seem to have turned on Himmelberg again. I get that his form this year hasn’t been great but he’s shown more at AFL level than Frampton ever has and he deserves another good chance to prove himself

I've been trying to point this out since round 1. Apparently Himmelberg turned to shit over the pre season and last year means nothing. He's also been 'hot garbage' in every single pre season and Sanfl game this year.

Who knows if he'll make it, but he's sure as hell shown more ability at afl level than Frampton.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Frampton/Himmelberg Tomato/Tomahto

Here’s an idea out of left field. How about playing neither of them?

 

[Bernie L]

Dont think there are enough people sinking the boots into Frampton here. Can we get a few more BF posters from the other teams boards to join in???

Yes he has been poor for a couple of games. Thought his Geelong game was a positive, as did the selectors obviously. But give him a far king break. He has played 11 games for farkc sake.

 

[WeedsMullet84]

They lost a midfielder/running player in Sloane, and replaced him with a slow, immobile tall in Fogarty. Any way you shuffle the magnets, they still left us short one midfielder/running type player.

Normally you rob Peter to pay Paul. By selecting Fogarty they robbed both Peter (midfield) and Paul (forward line) and paid nobody.

Bang on, Vader.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Bang on, Vader.

That’s the first time anyone’s ever said that.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Presumably Himmelberg came back in poor nick from the end of season break and as we know that's a permanent black mark at the AFC and a more important selection factor than AFL performances

 

[Kezza86]

Presumably Himmelberg came back in poor nick from the end of season break and as we know that's a permanent black mark at the AFC and a more important selection factor than AFL performances

His second and third efforts are average atm. That and his lack of intensity during games have contributed why he is still in the 2s.

 

[jackster83]

Presumably Himmelberg came back in poor nick from the end of season break and as we know that's a permanent black mark at the AFC and a more important selection factor than AFL performances

We're probably still also punishing Worrell for his drink driving incident last year.

 

[hey shorty]

We're probably still also punishing Worrell for his drink driving incident last year.

Nah.....

 

[Zzzuuuppp]

Any word on how far away Sloane is from playing?

 

[HarryCrow]

On Jones, we let Knight go (admittedly son's fave player) who at least would have equaled him in the afl last few games they played stats wise, would have smashed him km wise (providing defensive cover if not having ball). Now Knight is smashing it in SANFL, while sure it's 'only' SANFL but his 34 possies and 2 goals is a fair bit better than Jones' 5?? Reckon it's time to stop thinking of Chayce as a Pick 9 and start thinking of him as someone who's barely competitive at SANFL level.

 

[1970crow]

It makes no sense at all why the club is playing Frampton over Himmelberg, it made zero sense in the pre-season and makes even less sense now.

We all used to give Jerka a hard time back in the day, but honestly Frampton is so bad that he actually makes Jerka look like Buddy in comparison.

getting the 4th game was ok, I can understand that. The 5th for the sake of continuity and rewarding a total passenger for other’s effort is inexcusable. Massive footy philosophy failure from the group. But I just don’t think it’s the type of view that can change.