Preview Changes: R6 2021 v Hawthorn in Tasmania

[Jars458]

Wow 20 years to the day on BigFooty, and not a flag in sight. Bring in Thilthorpe.

 

[Vader]

So what is your solution then... because the current approach is not working!

Sending him to a sports psychologist is about the only thing they can do, at this stage. I don't think there is anything they can do on-field which would help solve his problems.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Sending him to a sports psychologist is about the only thing they can do, at this stage. I don't think there is anything they can do on-field which would help solve his problems.

They would have already done this...

 

[Geoffa32]

I bet Berry plays SANFL.

Lower intensity though.

Nice bit of circle work for him.

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[Geoffa32]

I don't think his problem is not knowing where to go, or how to position himself. I think it's 100% mental. He just lacks confidence.

Lack of confidence doesn't make him run to the opposite side the play is heading to.

He did that numerous times in the SANFL game. I was there.


He is Footy illiterate. Great skills, can lay a nice tackle and speed.

But reading the play, awfull.





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[GameofSloanes]

Shame this guy wasn't sitting on our list as an option to bring into our midfield.......

New recruit Jordan Gallucci caused plenty of headaches for the Bullants, kicking three goals from 22 touches. Young defenders Charlie Dean and Jack Toner were also solid on debut.

Nah, he was doing that in the SANFL too. Another non AFL standard player

 

[1970crow]

Are match payments still a thing?

not for the Lynches, Walkers et al. You offer them a base plus match payments and they’ll just go to another club.

 

[1970crow]

Lower intensity though.

Nice bit of circle work for him.

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I doubt that. Our mids get beaten up at SANFL level at the moment. You can’t change the way he goes about it, it won’t be circle work and if it is, he’ll not be getting recalled in a hurry. Especially with Sloane to return plus Hately knocking on the door and Pedlar gaining match fitness.

 

[1970crow]

Lack of confidence doesn't make him run to the opposite side the play is heading to.

He did that numerous times in the SANFL game. I was there.


He is Footy illiterate. Great skills, can lay a nice tackle and speed.

But reading the play, awfull.





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decision making is relevant only to when ball is in hand. What your talking about is accumulation and that was a strength, not a knock.

 

[Geoffa32]

decision making is relevant only to when ball is in hand. What your talking about is accumulation and that was a strength, not a knock.

Depends how you interpret it.


They are not going to write low Footy IQ about a kid.

That is his issue. Either he just "doesn't get it" or not willing to put in the study (Sloane suggesting team mates do some homework in the Amazon docco) to learn.

He does not have natural Footy smarts.

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[Scorpus]

Shame this guy wasn't sitting on our list as an option to bring into our midfield.......

New recruit Jordan Gallucci caused plenty of headaches for the Bullants, kicking three goals from 22 touches. Young defenders Charlie Dean and Jack Toner were also solid on debut.

Nah mate. We needed that list spot for David Mackay

Mackay is 205 games worth better at the all important metric

 

[Geoffa32]

Ball in hand he is pretty good.



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[Geoffa32]

I doubt that. Our mids get beaten up at SANFL level at the moment. You can’t change the way he goes about it, it won’t be circle work and if it is, he’ll not be getting recalled in a hurry. Especially with Sloane to return plus Hately knocking on the door and Pedlar gaining match fitness.

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[Vader]

Nah mate. We needed that list spot for David Mackay

Mackay is 205 games worth better at the all important metric

Mackay, is, was & always will be a better player than Gallucci.

That's not a case for keeping Mackay, it's just reinforcement that delisting Gallucci was the correct decision 10 times out of 10.

 

[crows dude]

Mackay, is, was & always will be a better player than Gallucci.

That's not a case for keeping Mackay, it's just reinforcement that delisting Gallucci was the correct decision 10 times out of 10.

So what. You dont play a 32 year old who scrapes into the 22/23 by the skin of their teeth in front of a first round 22 year old. Unless they are 10 times the player. Mackay is not and never will be.

 

[Vader]

So what. You dont play a 32 year old who scrapes into the 22/23 by the skin of their teeth in front of a first round 22 year old. Unless they are 10 times the player. Mackay is not and never will be.

You don't play Gallucci because he isn't & wasn't AFL standard.

That's not to say we should have re-signed Mackay at the end of last year, but getting rid of Gallucci was always going to be the right decision.

 

[Torpedro]

Nup... billy probably shouldve been dumped last week.. maybe even the week before that, before the North game IMO.

the dilemma being the two lads who could idealy come in to replace him in the tall forward/chop out ruck role have been in poor form/fitness and have shown nothing even at SANFL level... so Frampton has stayed in the side. If one of those two had shown more than they have so far this season I think billy wouldve been omited by now.

In recent weeks I have been on the wagon that says Riley Thilthorpe should stay in the sanfl until he builds his form and fitness to 100%.. I’ve since moved onto the “fu** it, he oozes talent, lets just play the kid” wagon.

So....
frampton out, RT in... himmelberg stays in the sanfl until he puts 3-4 decent games in a row together... and I am more inclined to now believe neither frampton or himmelberg are anything worth investing time and effort in as they simply arent worth it. They might be AFL standard players (just) but they are nowhere near AFL finals standard players and I dont think they’d make it onto/or hold their spots in the comps better teams.

Himm Has shown way more at AFL level than Frampton ever has

 

[WheresGroomgone]

If the Berg isn't really in great form and Thilltorpe isn't quite ready could Mcasey play the Frampton role for a few weeks? Surely it's an upgrade and we can get a bit of a read on where he is at.
I know he has been reasonably poor in the SANFL but his glimpses last year were streets ahead of Frampton - who surely was a back up break glass option prior to 2021 when all our young talls went backwards.

Lynch again not playing to his high standards - injured.
Mcadam struggling.
Ned plays like my 7 month old puppy so I sort of like it.


Hately baffles me were we lucky only going preseason?
Pedlar could have a taste soon please.

I put this in the GBU oops.

 

[Interloperer]

I think the point wasn't that we should have persisted with Knight. I think it's that we (rightly) let Knight go, because he's not AFL standard, yet he is/was performing significantly better than Jones. Ergo, we should be letting Jones go too, as another player who is not AFL standard.

Knight's best may have been better than Jones' best. But what little he showed in 2020 was much worse than Jones.

He has plenty of company to be fair. There seems to be a trend of when players don't work out under Nicks, they really don't and their output drops to Hampton 2018 levels

 

[thebirdman 24]

No.

He doesn't play AFL after 5 touches at SANFL level, just no way.

His issue isn't about being around the vicinity of the ball. It's about charging in and doing something. Too often he is near the ball just just standing to the side or in a bad position or not having a crack at winning it. He's not soft but he is scared of messing up.

Should we just tell Jones to follow Mitchell around this weekend, but hunt the ball, rather than being a hard tag?

Mitchell would take him to the ball...

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[Thetrader15]

Depends how you interpret it.


They are not going to write low Footy IQ about a kid.

That is his issue. Either he just "doesn't get it" or not willing to put in the study (Sloane suggesting team mates do some homework in the Amazon docco) to learn.

He does not have natural Footy smarts.

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They call it accumulation, and that's one of his strengths.

Why has it diminished since he was a kid playing league in Tassie? Seems he's forGodden how to get the ball since he's been here.

 

[Thetrader15]

You don't play Gallucci because he isn't & wasn't AFL standard.

That's not to say we should have re-signed Mackay at the end of last year, but getting rid of Gallucci was always going to be the right decision.

well if it came down to MacKay v gallucci, I'm going Gallucci everyday of the week.

 

[Vader]

well if it came down to MacKay v gallucci, I'm going Gallucci everyday of the week.

... and you can feel free to be wrong, every day of the week.

There were two options on the table - delist both Gallucci & Mackay, or delist Gallucci and keep Mackay. I'm not convinced that they made the right decision, but delisting Gallucci was always the right option, every day of the week.

 

[CrowBloke]

The stupidity of Don to sit by and watch that entire first quarter and not make one single change during it to try and stem the flow was just ludicrous.

The first quarter was a horror show; that talented Crows side played the dumbest football I've seen.
--- they'd won 6 on the trot by multies and tried Hollywood footy on a ghetto day (gale blowing, wet), assuming another big win on the cards
--- nobody behind the pack kicking with the wind to crumb the slippery ball off hands, nobody in front of the pack when kicking against. Massive schoolboys error.
--- got squeezed into the dead pocket time and time again
--- Don backed the boys in to play "our way", no need to make changes
--- meanwhile, in the second quarter NM ran the ball against the shelter/lee of the grandstand for 2 or 3 goals into the wind; game over.

 

[Thetrader15]

... and you can feel free to be wrong, every day of the week.

There were two options on the table - delist both Gallucci & Mackay, or delist Gallucci and keep Mackay. I'm not convinced that they made the right decision, but delisting Gallucci was always the right option, every day of the week.

Well, I can feel free to be right, because I said " I'm going Gallucci everyday of the week". Not the Crows, not you or anyone else. Me!

Either there were 3 options on the table, the two you mentioned and a third which was keeping both, or there was only one option on the table, the one they went with.