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Of course they are concerning but the ridiculous suggestions to "fix" the problem are frankly stupid. Drop every senior player that is out of form is not the solution. Drop lynch for otten? Seriously???!!! Next week it will be "never play otten again". Trade away sloane and lynch, never play half the side again.

Almost all the side was terrible of GF day therefore they dont have it in them to perfom on the big stage. Trade and delist them all!

Concerning? Absolutely, but the reaction is mind-boggingly over the top.
We need to analyse the collingwood game and this one and a lesser extent the port game. Look at the players that let us down. I think you'll find jacobs let us down in those games, so did kelly so they need to work out why and how to fix it. If it means jacobs plays sanfl then so be it, no one is entitled to a game and obviously some players turned up yesterday like they did vs Collingwood and richmond in the GF and just expected it to happen for them
 
We need to analyse the collingwood game and this one and a lesser extent the port game. Look at the players that let us down. I think you'll find jacobs let us down in those games, so did kelly so they need to work out why and how to fix it. If it means jacobs plays sanfl then so be it, no one is entitled to a game and obviously some players turned up yesterday like they did vs Collingwood and richmond in the GF and just expected it to happen for them

I said this after the horrible Melbourne loss last year:

"Jacobs - Second most hitouts in AFL history, but did **** all with those taps. No silver service whatsoever despite having a tap dominance. Learn to tap to our advantage."

Funnily enough I also said this of Lynch: "Downhill skiier. Unbelievably terrible from a senior player and such a key pillar."

Our best players on that day last year were Laird, M. Crouch, Smith, Douglas, Milera and Talia. That sounds awfully, awfully familiar.
 
We need to analyse the collingwood game and this one and a lesser extent the port game. Look at the players that let us down. I think you'll find jacobs let us down in those games, so did kelly so they need to work out why and how to fix it. If it means jacobs plays sanfl then so be it, no one is entitled to a game and obviously some players turned up yesterday like they did vs Collingwood and richmond in the GF and just expected it to happen for them
I agree.. but I don’t think sauce plays SANFL.. I think sauce just needs a rest. He’s just had a baby which I beleive is his first.. I remember my first... you spend the first few months when you get your first home stressing and not sleeping much worrying about the smallest things.. sounds stupid but it’s just what I found and I know a lot of my mates who’ve had kids would agree.. when you have your second you don’t stress anywhere near as much.

I’d say the bloke needs a couple of weeks off.. his mind has probably been elsewhere and on top of this I reacon he’s carrying a couple of niggles.. time to bring in ROB and actually find out if it is worth keeping ROB on the list at the end of the year.. let’s see what he’s got.. I thought he was pretty good in the JLT against freo this year.
 

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I agree.. but I don’t think sauce plays SANFL.. I think sauce just needs a rest. He’s just had a baby which I beleive is his first.. I remember my first... you spend the first few months when you get your first home stressing and not sleeping much worrying about the smallest things.. sounds stupid but it’s just what I found and I know a lot of my mates who’ve had kids would agree.. when you have your second you don’t stress anywhere near as much.

I’d say the bloke needs a couple of weeks off.. his mind has probably been elsewhere and on top of this I reacon he’s carrying a couple of niggles.. time to bring in ROB and actually find out if it is worth keeping ROB on the list at the end of the year.. let’s see what he’s got.. I thought he was pretty good in the JLT against freo this year.
I found i was the same mate..but he isnt the first AFL player to have a baby
 
1) Murphy was SUPER stiff to be left out. All he does is provide much needed pressure and kick opportunistic goals when he's in the side. Him over Poholke is a no brainer for me, and if the game was in Adelaide I'm sure it would have been that way.

2) Kelly was a lock at the end of last year, but now his decision making is just putrid at the moment. Give him a month in the 2's to get his game together cause he's a liability right now. Hampton in

3) JJ i have no problem with. He's not getting the goals this year but he's impacting contests and giving effort. Thats always been his weakness and he's clearly stepped up in that regard IMO.

4) Also hated Douglas', Mackay, Sauce's, CEY, Lynch and Gibson's games on the weekend, but I just don't see them getting dropped!
 
Jacobs must absolutely be dropped! You can not lose the ruck that badly and then in turn the stoppages and not be held accountable

Besides that im torn between bringing in some more youngsters or holding firm until we get some of our injured guys back because its too early to throw the season away but players need to be held accountable for a 90 point loss

OUT: Jacobs, CEY, Mackay, Poholke, Jenkins
IN: O'Brien, Murphy, Hampton, Himmelberg, Wilson

Our balance was wrong yesterday how we brought in an inside mid for SEED was plain crazy and it showed in our spread so we drop some inside guys for some guys who can play inside & outside & Jenkins goes out for someone who will atleast create a contest and crash a pack
 
I found i was the same mate..but he isnt the first AFL player to have a baby
Some people would deal with it better than others... some people’s misuses would deal with it better than others!... and all baby’s are different..

Who knows what he’s dealing with... his little one might be a great feeder and sleeper... or it could be a poor feeder, bad sleeper and be struggling with wind..

I just remember even the small things like laying in bed listening to my little boy breathe and not being able to relax because their breathing is so weird (how they can breathe normally then not take a breathe for a bit while they are asleep).. you google it and find out is normal but it still makes you stress about it when your laying there at night hearing it happen!..

And wind... wind is ****ed!!!... so many nights up trying to pat the bloody wind out of them with them screaming at the top of their lungs!!..
 
Mackay at the presser , he isnt getting dropped

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-05-28/coach-reaction-not-surprising

The Crows take on Greater Western Sydney at Adelaide Oval on Sunday.

"History will say that we respond pretty well to poor losses," Mackay said.

"I've got a lot of confidence in this group, and the coaching staff do, that when we're set a task and when we need to respond, we do."
 

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I don't think Hampton part of the answer.

At least Hampton will run, chase and lay some tackles at this point in time, something our 22 did nothing of on the weekend. The amount of cheap marks and space we allowed Melbourne on the weekend was utterly pathetic.
 
Some people would deal with it better than others... some people’s misuses would deal with it better than others!... and all baby’s are different..

Who knows what he’s dealing with... his little one might be a great feeder and sleeper... or it could be a poor feeder, bad sleeper and be struggling with wind..

I just remember even the small things like laying in bed listening to my little boy breathe and not being able to relax because their breathing is so weird (how they can breathe normally then not take a breathe for a bit while they are asleep).. you google it and find out is normal but it still makes you stress about it when your laying there at night hearing it happen!..

And wind... wind is ******!!!... so many nights up trying to pat the bloody wind out of them with them screaming at the top of their lungs!!..
Yep. He can be rested till he is right and then prove he is ready in the sanfl
 
Mackay at the presser , he isnt getting dropped

http://www.afc.com.au/news/2018-05-28/coach-reaction-not-surprising

The Crows take on Greater Western Sydney at Adelaide Oval on Sunday.

"History will say that we respond pretty well to poor losses," Mackay said.

"I've got a lot of confidence in this group, and the coaching staff do, that when we're set a task and when we need to respond, we do."
Ugh. I hate this club.

“Just had an off night”
“Back in the group to respond”
“Out of character”
“We didn’t see that performance coming”
“We’ll lick our wounds and bounce back”

Over and over again this side gets told it’s all ok to not rock up one week because the club will not rock the boat and you’ll get a game the following week because youre a senior player who we’ve invested 200 games into. It’s really no wonder some get complacent and turn out performances like that.
Until this mindset changes we will never win a flag and this sickens me.
 
1) Murphy was SUPER stiff to be left out. All he does is provide much needed pressure and kick opportunistic goals when he's in the side. Him over Poholke is a no brainer for me, and if the game was in Adelaide I'm sure it would have been that way.

2) Kelly was a lock at the end of last year, but now his decision making is just putrid at the moment. Give him a month in the 2's to get his game together cause he's a liability right now. Hampton in

3) JJ i have no problem with. He's not getting the goals this year but he's impacting contests and giving effort. Thats always been his weakness and he's clearly stepped up in that regard IMO.

4) Also hated Douglas', Mackay, Sauce's, CEY, Lynch and Gibson's games on the weekend, but I just don't see them getting dropped!

Agree with everything, especially the first two.

Poholke over Murphy is a real head-scratcher, especially given how much we suck at applying pressure at the moment. Missing Knight badly also. Murphy needs to come in to do this, and Poholke needs to back to the SANFL and work on his composure and outside stuff.

Kelly is in terrible form this year. Was so trustworthy and could back him in to win his 1v1s at least 8/10 times. Looks shaky with the ball in hand and not hitting targets, and is losing way too many defensive contests. I hate to say it, but maybe we drop Kelly and bring Otten in. Hartigan to play a bit smaller?

Gibson has been dead-set average so far as I predicted, but ill reserve judgement still given he's come off a 2 month injury into a new side. As you said, hard to fault Jenkins also, given the quality of ball coming in. Our forward structures seem to be more so the problem. Our forwards are rarely in the right spot at the right time.,
 

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Why do people keep bringing up Poholke over Murphy?

Poholke was the travelling emergency. He wasn't supposed to play. In the event the emergency wasn't required, it was better Murphy could get a run in the SANFL. It's just unfortunate we had to use the emergency
 
Agree with everything, especially the first two.

Poholke over Murphy is a real head-scratcher, especially given how much we suck at applying pressure at the moment. Missing Knight badly also. Murphy needs to come in to do this, and Poholke needs to back to the SANFL and work on his composure and outside stuff.

Kelly is in terrible form this year. Was so trustworthy and could back him in to win his 1v1s at least 8/10 times. Looks shaky with the ball in hand and not hitting targets, and is losing way too many defensive contests. I hate to say it, but maybe we drop Kelly and bring Otten in. Hartigan to play a bit smaller?

Gibson has been dead-set average so far as I predicted, but ill reserve judgement still given he's come off a 2 month injury into a new side. As you said, hard to fault Jenkins also, given the quality of ball coming in. Our forward structures seem to be more so the problem. Our forwards are rarely in the right spot at the right time.,
I agree with the structures. We look at our best when we lower our eyes and are hitting up short leads around the 40m arch. And right now we just seem to want to bomb it in long every time. With FOG, TEX and JJ all able to kick 60m and struggle to take pack marks, this mentality is just mind boggling.
 
Why do people keep bringing up Poholke over Murphy?

Poholke was the travelling emergency. He wasn't supposed to play. In the event the emergency wasn't required, it was better Murphy could get a run in the SANFL. It's just unfortunate we had to use the emergency
If you believe what you read here, then Seedsman was never going to play. If that is the case, then taking Poholke was totally the wrong selection.

If not, then yes it was very unfortunate
 
Ugh. I hate this club.

“Just had an off night”
“Back in the group to respond”
“Out of character”
“We didn’t see that performance coming”
“We’ll lick our wounds and bounce back”

Over and over again this side gets told it’s all ok to not rock up one week because the club will not rock the boat and you’ll get a game the following week because youre a senior player who we’ve invested 200 games into. It’s really no wonder some get complacent and turn out performances like that.
Until this mindset changes we will never win a flag and this sickens me.

Yep, it basically confirms a lack of effort.

I'm tired of giving the same players the chance to respond (and get complacent again a week or two later). Even our injured gun players seem to suffer from this ailment.
 
If you believe what you read here, then Seedsman was never going to play. If that is the case, then taking Poholke was totally the wrong selection.

If not, then yes it was very unfortunate
It’s a bit hard not to think that seeds wasn’t going to play.. he finished the last 10 mins of the dogs game in a tracksuit on the bench didn’t he?..
 

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