Recommitted Lachie Neale [OOC 2023 - Will honour his contract]

[Snuffaluphagus]

 

[freo1997]

Would Pick 6 + future 2nd for Neale and Pick 14 work?

Plenty of WA-based talent around that draft range for Freo, Lions get an early pick this year and additional pick in the 25-30 range next year.

Future First thats it imo.

If we go hard with young talent this year we can almost complete out rebuild. Neale on top of that as a mature body would be great for the loss of Cerra.

We draft a mid/fwd and a KPF in the first round.

 

[pulpdriver]

If the offer is too low, Sydney will match no way they let Parker walk for a pick around 40.

Question would you rather get Parker for free on 750k x 4 years or Tom Mitchell on 750k x 3 (Hawthorn paying 200k x 3) and Brisbane down grading their pick 14 to 21.

Parker.

 

[Yeti]

Might be hard to show you games where he was won the game playing forward but there's plenty where he has contributed to the win by playing forward. Even this year when he was obviously playing injured and couldn't kick a goal to save himself he had 30 scoring shots at goal along with 16 contested marks, 14 take in the forward 50. Being able to give him extended time up there is a bonus. Why do you think Richmond loved to get Dusty up forward?

Jesus Christ.

You're making the point for me. 30 scoring shots. How many goals?

He is a momentum killer in the forward line. Richmond loves dusty in the forward line because..... He kicks goals.

Fyfe needs to be in the middle for both his and Fremantle's sake.

 

[pulpdriver]

Jesus Christ.

You're making the point for me. 30 scoring shots. How many goals?

He is a momentum killer in the forward line. Richmond loves dusty in the forward line because..... He kicks goals.

Fyfe needs to be in the middle for both his and Fremantle's sake.

You think he's incapable of straightening up his set shots?

 

[Yeti]

You think he's incapable of straightening up his set shots?

Fyfe is the hardest worker in the room. I'm sure he has already spent a fortune on sports psychology, mechanical biologists, panther blood and all sorts of weird s**t we haven't thought of.

If he could fix his goal kicking it would be fixed by now. He's nearly 30, he is the player he is.

And I love him for it. Let him be the contested beast he is. I trust him far more taking a shot at goal breaking 4 tackles than I do with a set shot 20 metres in front on no angle.

 

[pulpdriver]

Fyfe is the hardest worker in the room. I'm sure he has already spent a fortune on sports psychology, mechanical biologists, panther blood and all sorts of weird sh*t we haven't thought of.

If he could fix his goal kicking it would be fixed by now. He's nearly 30, he is the player he is.

And I love him for it. Let him be the contested beast he is. I trust him far more taking a shot at goal breaking 4 tackles than I do with a set shot 20 metres in front on no angle.

Fair enough. It's your team. I still see Fyfe as a very dangerous forward option.

 

[theiaofseed]

Parker.

You'd be happy paying 750k for a 33 year old with no way to move his contract around with the amount of young talent on your list, over paying 550k a year for a 31 year old Brownlow medalist with free reign to redesign his contract how you see fit?

 

[Yeti]

Fair enough. It's your team. I still see Fyfe as a very dangerous forward option.

That's ok, I'm yet to see any evidence to change my opinion. People who don't watch him every week see his overhead marking and say he must be able to be a forward.

There is a WA Podcast that used to be good before they brought on a 3rd wheel who is a complete ******* that kept banging on about Fyfe being a forward. That he would solve our problem of not spending draft capital on actual forwards.

Even they have resigned themselves to the fact that Fyfe can't play forward. I just don't see it.

And to bring this back around to Lachie Neale, it's not a good fit for either team. Cerra out hampers us significantly. Neale does not make that exit better.

 

[pulpdriver]

You'd be happy paying 750k for a 33 year old with no way to move his contract around with the amount of young talent on your list?

Yep. Parker will be cheaper than Neale and while not as good has proven to be a decent forward. We get 2-3 years of him in the midfield then he becomes a 70/30 fwd/mid before going to pasture. Take the savings and give them to our young talent.

 

[theiaofseed]

Yep. Parker will be cheaper than Neale and while not as good has proven to be a decent forward. We get 2-3 years of him in the midfield then he becomes a 70/30 fwd/mid before going to pasture. Take the savings and give them to our young talent.

He wont be cheaper. That's why you will get him as a FA

 

[Tom14]

Future First thats it imo.

If we go hard with young talent this year we can almost complete out rebuild. Neale on top of that as a mature body would be great for the loss of Cerra.

We draft a mid/fwd and a KPF in the first round.

We have a potential number 1 pick father son next year, so future first is of minimal value for us.

 

[pulpdriver]

That's ok, I'm yet to see any evidence to change my opinion. People who don't watch him every week see his overhead marking and say he must be able to be a forward.

There is a WA Podcast that used to be good before they brought on a 3rd wheel who is a complete ******* that kept banging on about Fyfe being a forward. That he would solve our problem of not spending draft capital on actual forwards.

Even they have resigned themselves to the fact that Fyfe can't play forward. I just don't see it.

And to bring this back around to Lachie Neale, it's not a good fit for either team. Cerra out hampers us significantly. Neale does not make that exit better.

It's not just his overhead marking, though that obviously is great and if he's taking the third defender look out, but he's so good at forward stoppages. We're obviously not gonna agree so each to their own.

I think Neale out makes the Cerra exit a lot easier since it pushes you to finals and allows Brayshaw and Serong freedom from a tag as the continue to develop to elite midfielders.

 

[freo1997]

We have a potential number 1 pick father son next year, so future first is of minimal value for us.

Ok no trade. Keep a guy who doesn't want to be there and we'll get him ooc.

 

[scoman]

Ok no trade. Keep a guy who doesn't want to be there and we'll get him ooc.

Is this a cut and paste?

 

[Tom14]

Can we please borrow one of your 14 midfielders for next season?

They can keep mitch wallis.

 

[BRAB]

Is this a cut and paste?

RESTRAINT OF TRADE

 

[Tom14]

Ok no trade. Keep a guy who doesn't want to be there and we'll get him ooc.

Fine with me, 2 more seasons of service for us.

 

[Yeti]

It's not just his overhead marking, though that obviously is great and if he's taking the third defender look out, but he's so good at forward stoppages. We're obviously not gonna agree so each to their own.

I think Neale out makes the Cerra exit a lot easier since it pushes you to finals and allows Brayshaw and Serong freedom from a tag as the continue to develop to elite midfielders.

Sure, but the most important part of being a forward has to be kicking goals? He has shown he can't.

I disagree that Neale coming in makes losing Cerra easier. Serong tends to tag and isn't known to get that and Brayshaw has shown that he can not only work through tags but beat them.

I agree that Neale probably pushes us closer to finals but I'm not really interested in making finals. I want us to win a flag. Our club seems so focused on short term gains to appease the media / members / themselves that they don't build out a balanced list. We don't seem to gain access to free hits in NGA / Father son / priority draft picks.

We continually do dumb things like being in players just because they are from WA. We refuse to draft forwards for some unknown reason despite games of AFL being decided by which team kicks the most goals.

I have serious concerns that my club will do something really dumb this trade period and pay close to market value for a very good player in Lachie Neale who is a player we do not need in our current list management cycle.

 

[refresh]

contracts aren’t worth as much these days. As you should understand considering how the Brad hill thing played out.

Yes I do. But we created it by front ending the contract. Allowing Hill to play us without any accountability. The club(s) need to take some control back.

 

[Tom14]

RESTRAINT OF TRADE

It's been a quiet few years of enjoying winning games hasn't it. Delighted to get back into trade period form and eagerly await my Install-A-Rheem Trade Update on Trade Mornings on Trade Radio with Lloydo and Kane Cornes.

 

[dcutter]

Freo hold all the aces here and should't offer up any significant draft/trade capital to get him.

28, been relatively banged up all year and a midfielder isn't really a pressing need for them.

Late first perhaps or early second

 

[bradee]

Brisbane to get 6,8 and 27 for Neale.Go on lions bleed the pricks dry

 

[Elixuh]

Sure, but the most important part of being a forward has to be kicking goals? He has shown he can't.

I disagree that Neale coming in makes losing Cerra easier. Serong tends to tag and isn't known to get that and Brayshaw has shown that he can not only work through tags but beat them.

I agree that Neale probably pushes us closer to finals but I'm not really interested in making finals. I want us to win a flag. Our club seems so focused on short term gains to appease the media / members / themselves that they don't build out a balanced list. We don't seem to gain access to free hits in NGA / Father son / priority draft picks.

We continually do dumb things like being in players just because they are from WA. We refuse to draft forwards for some unknown reason despite games of AFL being decided by which team kicks the most goals.

I have serious concerns that my club will do something really dumb this trade period and pay close to market value for a very good player in Lachie Neale who is a player we do not need in our current list management cycle.

What does Freo need?

 

[pulpdriver]

Sure, but the most important part of being a forward has to be kicking goals? He has shown he can't.

Literally the easiest thing to correct on a forward but okay.

I disagree that Neale coming in makes losing Cerra easier. Serong tends to tag and isn't known to get that and Brayshaw has shown that he can not only work through tags but beat them.

So you don't expect Serong to improve and teams to target him? Awesome that Brayshaw is fine with being tagged, no chance they won't target someone else in the midfield.

I agree that Neale probably pushes us closer to finals but I'm not really interested in making finals. I want us to win a flag. Our club seems so focused on short term gains to appease the media / members / themselves that they don't build out a balanced list. We don't seem to gain access to free hits in NGA / Father son / priority draft picks.

Gotta make finals to win flags. I'm not trying to sell you on Neale, I'd rather keep him but he makes you a finals team and doesn't compromise a whole lot in terms of your future development. We're not gonna push you finals for nothing.

We continually do dumb things like being in players just because they are from WA. We refuse to draft forwards for some unknown reason despite games of AFL being decided by which team kicks the most goals.

I don't know anything about this.

I have serious concerns that my club will do something really dumb this trade period and pay close to market value for a very good player in Lachie Neale who is a player we do not need in our current list management cycle.

Probably. Just don't come gloating about how good he is if you become a final team.

 

[Bald]

Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

clearly a better player now then when he left the Dockers.

He’s also 29 next year and has had back and syndesmosis issues this year. End of first round pick is the most I would be offering. Not exactly an area of need for Fremantle even once Cerra departs.

Ultimately Brisbane run the risk of having a disgruntled player on their list if they don’t trade him. It works, sometimes.