Traded North Melbourne trade #8 to Melbourne for #26, #50 & 2020 1st Round Pick

[perplexed]

The new, modified 17 game season (assuming it goes ahead) does put a different complexion on this trade

How so?

 

[The Nostradamus]

How so?

Melbourne had easy double ups due to finish in the bottom tier potentially could have finished a couple of spots higher with a full season this year with 3-4 extra wins from double ups

but now the fair draw means them sucking last year has not benefited them

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Melbourne had easy double ups due to finish in the bottom tier potentially could have finished a couple of spots higher with a full season this year with 3-4 extra wins from double ups

but now the fair draw means them sucking last year has not benefited them

Yeah, it is now looking very good for the Shinboners.. At the very least you know have a very good trade collateral to try snag an out of contract star who is not a free agent (which may have been the end game for North all along)

North are building along very nicely. I think Comben could well be one of the steals of the 2019 draft.

 

[Dez!]

It literally changes nothing.

 

[Wild Bill]

It literally changes nothing.

Really - you just lost games V the Crows, Freo, Saints and Suns.

The loss of the spoon favs in the Suns changes things. You lost games V 18th, 17th, 16th & 12th in the flag betting.

End of the day the chances of the season completing is slim so if they revert back to the 2019 ladder this is a massive win for the Roo's.

The corona silver lining.

 

[Dez!]

Really - you just lost games V the Crows, Freo, Saints and Suns.

The loss of the spoon favs in the Suns changes things. You lost games V 18th, 17th, 16th & 12th in the flag betting.

End of the day the chances of the season completing is slim so if they revert back to the 2019 ladder this is a massive win for the Roo's.

The corona silver lining.

Except nobody knows how the likes of St Kilda, Adelaide, Freo and Gold Coast will fare.

I also highly doubt that they'll simply revert to the 2019 ladder for the draft order, they'd be more likely to go to a lottery system.

 

[Blackas87]

This is going to be the worst year to have a top pick

 

[markm106]

It depends how you think Melbourne will go. If you believe they won’t improve then yes the 17 game season doesn’t help them. If you believe the recruits and having a reasonable pre season will help them then maybe they’ll improve and the draw won’t matter so much.

 

[markm106]

This is going to be the worst year to have a top pick

If the junior comps don’t go ahead then the recruitment teams will have a job in front of them getting their projections right.

 

[Wild Bill]

Except nobody knows how the likes of St Kilda, Adelaide, Freo and Gold Coast will fare.

I also highly doubt that they'll simply revert to the 2019 ladder for the draft order, they'd be more likely to go to a lottery system.

One may rise - not all 4. The herald sun has the Tigers as the big winners and the Dees the big losers from the adjusted fixture.

 

[Wild Bill]

This is going to be the worst year to have a top pick

Really? Can you please explain?

 

[Blackas87]

Really? Can you please explain?

No junior comps or state league comps until at least 31 of May at this stage, kids aren’t going to get the exposure. If the leagues don’t come back this year it’s going to be hard to split the talent. Plenty of top players will slide, there will be players who don’t get a chance at there break out year and never get picked up.

 

[Wild Bill]

No junior comps or state league comps until at least 31 of May at this stage, kids aren’t going to get the exposure. If the leagues don’t come back this year it’s going to be hard to split the talent. Plenty of top players will slide, there will be players who don’t get a chance at there break out year and never get picked up.

The recruiters have a very good idea who the best players heading into 2020 are. It’s not like when they run out in round 1 it will be the 1st time they ever saw these kids. Rowell was 1 18 months before he went 1. There are threads on here listing the best talent in 2020. Looking at the year before even big footy posters have a good idea.

It’s not the 1980s.

 

[briztoon]

This is going to be the worst year to have a top pick

Cal Twomey’s article today says your wrong.

Recruiters know who most of the top kids are already.

It’s the next tier down that is the big question. The second and third round.

 

[Blackas87]

The recruiters have a very good idea who the best players heading into 2020 are. It’s not like when they run out in round 1 it will be the 1st time they ever saw these kids. Rowell was 1 18 months before he went 1. There are threads on here listing the best talent in 2020. Looking at the year before even big footy posters have a good idea.

It’s not the 1980s.

Of course every year they know which players are expected to go up high, but every year during draft week there is still deliberation. I remember years ago people before the season people were talking about Jack Fitzpatrick being possibly a pick 1, he ended up going 48 or something.

tell me who is going to be number 1 this year?

 

[Blackas87]

Cal Twomey’s article today says your wrong.

Recruiters know who most of the top kids are already.

It’s the next tier down that is the big question. The second and third round.

Ooo Cam Twomey’s article lol

of course further down will be harder, players will miss out on getting drafted.

 

[markm106]

The recruiters have a very good idea who the best players heading into 2020 are. It’s not like when they run out in round 1 it will be the 1st time they ever saw these kids. Rowell was 1 18 months before he went 1. There are threads on here listing the best talent in 2020. Looking at the year before even big footy posters have a good idea.

It’s not the 1980s.

Clubs absolutely have projections and the very top end should be Somewhat accurate. But if we see little to no junior footy this year I’d be thinking first round picks aren’t as valuable.

 

[Sinjin Smith]

Funnily enough, AFL media and recruiters had Worpel going at 1 this time of year he slid considerably then on his form to date shows he should have gone much higher.

 

[Wild Bill]

Funnily enough, AFL media and recruiters had Worpel going at 1 this time of year he slid considerably then on his form to date shows he should have gone much higher.

Never saw any media linking Worpol to the number 1 pick.

04/02/18
1. Max King - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
2. Jack Lukosius - Woodville-West Torrens/SA
3. Sam Walsh - Geelong Faclons/VIC C
4. Izak Rankine - West Adelaide/SA
5. Ben King - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
6. Jack Bytel - Calder Cannons/VIC M
7. Tarryn Thomas - North Launceston/ALLIES
8. Jye Caldwell - Bendigo Pioneers/VIC C
9. Matthew Green - Sporties Spitfires/ALLIES
10. Ian Hill - Perth Demons/WA
11. Curtis Taylor - Calder Cannons/VIC M
12. Connor Rozee - North Adelaide/SA
13. Zane Barzen - Murray Bushrangers/VIC C
14. Xavier Duursma - Gippsland Power/VIC C
15. Bailey Smith - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
16. Mitch Riordan - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
17. Tom Joyce - East Fremantle/WA
18. Nick Blakey - UNSW/ALLIES
19. Bailey Williams - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
20. Jackson Hately - Central District/SA
21. Ed McHenry - Geelong Falcons/VIC C
22. Tom Lewis - Sturt/SA
23. Xavier O'Neill - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
24. Tom Berry - GWV Rebels/VIC C
25. Riley Collier-Dawkins - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
26. Lachlan Sholl - Calder Cannons/VIC M
27. Xavier O'Halloran - Western Jets/VIC M
28. Isaac Quaynor - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
29. Buku Khamis - Western Jets/VIC M
30. Tom McKenzie - Northern Knights/VIC M
31. Oscar Brownless - Geelong Falcons/VIC C
32. Luke Valente - Norwood/SA
33. Rhylee West - Calder Cannons/VIC M
34. Bailey Scott - Broadbeach Cats/ALLIES
35. Sydney Stack - Perth/WA
36. Joe Ayton-Delaney - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
37. Cody Hirst - Eastern Ranges/VIC M
38. Irving Mosquito - Gippsland Power/VIC C
39. Liam Stocker - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
40. Hudson Garoni - Murray Bushrangers/VIC C
41. William Hamill - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
42. Mason Fletcher - Calder Cannons/VIC M
43. Zac Butters - Western Jets/VIC M
44. James Rowbottom - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
45. Joel Crocker - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
46. Braedyn Gillard - Northern Knights/VIC M
47. Durak Tucker - Peel Thunder/WA
48. Tylar Watts - GWV Rebels/VIC C
49. Michael Mummery - Southern Districts/ALLIES
50. Jai Nanscawen - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C


And this thread listing the 40 players to watch in 2018.

Phantom Draft - 40 Prospects to Watch in 2018

Hey hey hey. Although it may be late i hope its worth the wait as I have my top 40 picks for 2018. This years draft crop I believe is very strong in most areas which means players who would go first round in other draft years might slide later in the draft as the stronger pool pushes some solid...

www.bigfooty.com

No Worp.

 

[Wild Bill]

Of course every year they know which players are expected to go up high, but every year during draft week there is still deliberation. I remember years ago people before the season people were talking about Jack Fitzpatrick being possibly a pick 1, he ended up going 48 or something.

tell me who is going to be number 1 this year?

Phillips.

 

[Sinjin Smith]

Never saw any media linking Worpol to the number 1 pick.

04/02/18
1. Max King - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
2. Jack Lukosius - Woodville-West Torrens/SA
3. Sam Walsh - Geelong Faclons/VIC C
4. Izak Rankine - West Adelaide/SA
5. Ben King - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
6. Jack Bytel - Calder Cannons/VIC M
7. Tarryn Thomas - North Launceston/ALLIES
8. Jye Caldwell - Bendigo Pioneers/VIC C
9. Matthew Green - Sporties Spitfires/ALLIES
10. Ian Hill - Perth Demons/WA
11. Curtis Taylor - Calder Cannons/VIC M
12. Connor Rozee - North Adelaide/SA
13. Zane Barzen - Murray Bushrangers/VIC C
14. Xavier Duursma - Gippsland Power/VIC C
15. Bailey Smith - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
16. Mitch Riordan - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
17. Tom Joyce - East Fremantle/WA
18. Nick Blakey - UNSW/ALLIES
19. Bailey Williams - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
20. Jackson Hately - Central District/SA
21. Ed McHenry - Geelong Falcons/VIC C
22. Tom Lewis - Sturt/SA
23. Xavier O'Neill - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
24. Tom Berry - GWV Rebels/VIC C
25. Riley Collier-Dawkins - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
26. Lachlan Sholl - Calder Cannons/VIC M
27. Xavier O'Halloran - Western Jets/VIC M
28. Isaac Quaynor - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
29. Buku Khamis - Western Jets/VIC M
30. Tom McKenzie - Northern Knights/VIC M
31. Oscar Brownless - Geelong Falcons/VIC C
32. Luke Valente - Norwood/SA
33. Rhylee West - Calder Cannons/VIC M
34. Bailey Scott - Broadbeach Cats/ALLIES
35. Sydney Stack - Perth/WA
36. Joe Ayton-Delaney - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
37. Cody Hirst - Eastern Ranges/VIC M
38. Irving Mosquito - Gippsland Power/VIC C
39. Liam Stocker - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
40. Hudson Garoni - Murray Bushrangers/VIC C
41. William Hamill - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
42. Mason Fletcher - Calder Cannons/VIC M
43. Zac Butters - Western Jets/VIC M
44. James Rowbottom - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
45. Joel Crocker - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
46. Braedyn Gillard - Northern Knights/VIC M
47. Durak Tucker - Peel Thunder/WA
48. Tylar Watts - GWV Rebels/VIC C
49. Michael Mummery - Southern Districts/ALLIES
50. Jai Nanscawen - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C


And this thread listing the 40 players to watch in 2018.

Phantom Draft - 40 Prospects to Watch in 2018

Hey hey hey. Although it may be late i hope its worth the wait as I have my top 40 picks for 2018. This years draft crop I believe is very strong in most areas which means players who would go first round in other draft years might slide later in the draft as the stronger pool pushes some solid...

www.bigfooty.com

No Worp.

Well played. I cant find any articles either now but I swear I heard/read his name bandied about as a top 5 pick.

 

[Blackas87]

Phillips.

I’m happy to take a bet that he won’t be number 1

 

[briztoon]

Ooo Cam Twomey’s article lol

of course further down will be harder, players will miss out on getting drafted.

Mate, you said it would be the worse year to have a top pick. Your words.

I pointed out, using Twomey’s article as evidence, that recruiters believe your wrong.

Now in true big footy fashion, you’re trying to move the discussion.

 

[briztoon]

Never saw any media linking Worpol to the number 1 pick.

04/02/18
1. Max King - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
2. Jack Lukosius - Woodville-West Torrens/SA
3. Sam Walsh - Geelong Faclons/VIC C
4. Izak Rankine - West Adelaide/SA
5. Ben King - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
6. Jack Bytel - Calder Cannons/VIC M
7. Tarryn Thomas - North Launceston/ALLIES
8. Jye Caldwell - Bendigo Pioneers/VIC C
9. Matthew Green - Sporties Spitfires/ALLIES
10. Ian Hill - Perth Demons/WA
11. Curtis Taylor - Calder Cannons/VIC M
12. Connor Rozee - North Adelaide/SA
13. Zane Barzen - Murray Bushrangers/VIC C
14. Xavier Duursma - Gippsland Power/VIC C
15. Bailey Smith - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
16. Mitch Riordan - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
17. Tom Joyce - East Fremantle/WA
18. Nick Blakey - UNSW/ALLIES
19. Bailey Williams - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
20. Jackson Hately - Central District/SA
21. Ed McHenry - Geelong Falcons/VIC C
22. Tom Lewis - Sturt/SA
23. Xavier O'Neill - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
24. Tom Berry - GWV Rebels/VIC C
25. Riley Collier-Dawkins - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
26. Lachlan Sholl - Calder Cannons/VIC M
27. Xavier O'Halloran - Western Jets/VIC M
28. Isaac Quaynor - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
29. Buku Khamis - Western Jets/VIC M
30. Tom McKenzie - Northern Knights/VIC M
31. Oscar Brownless - Geelong Falcons/VIC C
32. Luke Valente - Norwood/SA
33. Rhylee West - Calder Cannons/VIC M
34. Bailey Scott - Broadbeach Cats/ALLIES
35. Sydney Stack - Perth/WA
36. Joe Ayton-Delaney - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
37. Cody Hirst - Eastern Ranges/VIC M
38. Irving Mosquito - Gippsland Power/VIC C
39. Liam Stocker - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
40. Hudson Garoni - Murray Bushrangers/VIC C
41. William Hamill - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C
42. Mason Fletcher - Calder Cannons/VIC M
43. Zac Butters - Western Jets/VIC M
44. James Rowbottom - Oakleigh Chargers/VIC M
45. Joel Crocker - Sandringham Dragons/VIC M
46. Braedyn Gillard - Northern Knights/VIC M
47. Durak Tucker - Peel Thunder/WA
48. Tylar Watts - GWV Rebels/VIC C
49. Michael Mummery - Southern Districts/ALLIES
50. Jai Nanscawen - Dandenong Stingrays/VIC C


And this thread listing the 40 players to watch in 2018.

Phantom Draft - 40 Prospects to Watch in 2018

Hey hey hey. Although it may be late i hope its worth the wait as I have my top 40 picks for 2018. This years draft crop I believe is very strong in most areas which means players who would go first round in other draft years might slide later in the draft as the stronger pool pushes some solid...

www.bigfooty.com

No Worp.

Would help if you looked at the right year.

2017

 

[Blackas87]

Mate, you said it would be the worse year to have a top pick. Your words.

I pointed out, using Twomey’s article as evidence, that recruiters believe your wrong.

Now in true big footy fashion, you’re trying to move the discussion.

It will be the worst year to have a top pick. If you can’t watch the top players perform how can you then determine who exactly ranks higher than others?

trying to move the discussion? How? It’s going to be the worst year for drafting all the way through, including the top.