Play Nice Politics #3 - Covideo killed the radio star

[the universal]

No one with an iQ higher than 8 watches Sky News

In all fairness, its afternoon programming is pretty satisfactory mainstream fare - it just goes awry after dark which is just program after program of the worst people Australian media has to offer. My favourite is the one where Bronwyn Bishop complains that everything she doesn't like is 'socialism'.

 

[Coopers]

I'd still do it, it's probably the only way you'd get Jones/Bolt away from the media. If defending paedophiles wasn't enough to get Bolt sacked, anything short of him declaring unequivocal support for fascism won't either (and even then it would be no guarantee ...).

Well, I'm in favour of leaving them there. It's kind of funny watching the shock jock & pro pedo antics undermine whatever rambling incoherent point they were trying to make, in between gargling the balls of their sponsors.

 

[kirky]

A natural occurring act of nature.....

And you point.

So do nothing about what we, mankind, are doing to the planet?

 

[Mutineer]

And you point.

So do nothing about what we, mankind, are doing to the planet?

Exactly where have I ever said that?

What I have said is it's almost pointless Australia doing more than their fair share while other far bigger polluting countries carry on regardless. Numerous times I've said I'm all for renewables but it must keep electricity generation affordable for the less well off among us and allow our companies and businesses that rely heavily on electricity to remain competitive in the world market. I also believe if renewables are so wonderful and the way of the future they should not need Government subsidies to be financially viable.

 

[Mutineer]

No one with an iQ higher than 8 watches Sky News

You must really rate yourself....

 

[kirky]

Exactly where have I ever said that?

What I have said is it's almost pointless Australia doing more than their fair share while other far bigger polluting countries carry on regardless. Numerous times I've said I'm all for renewables but it must keep electricity generation affordable for the less well off among us and allow our companies and businesses that rely heavily on electricity to remain competitive in the world market. I also believe if renewables are so wonderful and the way of the future they should not need Government subsidies to be financially viable.

Only issue I have is we are 1.3% of emissions and yet represent 0.35% of the world population.

Perhaps you should travel overseas - plenty of renewables in use in both Spain (37.4%) and Portugal (41.8%) of total energy needs.

We as a nation (22.3%) have to get serious about this as head in the sands approach won’t work to our advantage in the long term.

 

[StonesThrow]

To try and escape the position of admitting they were wrong, a denier's fall back is to carefully use nominal figures to argue that Australia shouldn't do anything because it won't make a difference. This is further backed up by throwing in words like 'wrecking ball', 'economy', 'inner city' and 'tax'.

 

[Elite Crow]

To try and escape the position of admitting they were wrong, a denier's fall back is to carefully use nominal figures to argue that Australia shouldn't do anything because it won't make a difference. This is further backed up by throwing in words like 'wrecking ball', 'economy', 'inner city' and 'tax'.

Blah blah blah. Such a poxy post typical of the airy fairy s**t you post.

Have a look at Kirkys post, 1.3% of emissions, if we reduced our emissions to 0 the worlds emissions reduce by a whopping 1.3%, now tell me would that have stopped the fires as Brandt has suggested?

 

[Carmo]

Exactly where have I ever said that?

What I have said is it's almost pointless Australia doing more than their fair share while other far bigger polluting countries carry on regardless. Numerous times I've said I'm all for renewables but it must keep electricity generation affordable for the less well off among us and allow our companies and businesses that rely heavily on electricity to remain competitive in the world market. I also believe if renewables are so wonderful and the way of the future they should not need Government subsidies to be financially viable.

We've been over this. Inaction costs more than action. So if you want the best economic outcome we should've gone full on renewables a decade ago. There's more jobs in renewables than there is in fossil fuels.

Also, even if you don't believe in climate change, we are running short on oil and gas and so we'll need renewables anyway.

Been monitoring the AEMO dashboard Bicks? Did you see SA had the lowest power prices last month? Did you see it's in the lead again this month? Did you see yesterdays price for the whole day was $-81? That's with a bunch of renewables actually switched off to keep the price up too! Imagine the price if they were on! Imagine the price if we had more of them and storage!?

You do realise fossil fuels have subsidies too, right?

Also China and India doing more than we have over the last five years to decrease emissions.




Got anything else for me?

 

[StonesThrow]

Blah blah blah. Such a poxy post typical of the airy fairy s**t you post.

Have a look at Kirkys post, 1.3% of emissions, if we reduced our emissions to 0 the worlds emissions reduce by a whopping 1.3%, now tell me would that have stopped the fires as Brandt has suggested?

Brandt is an idiot.

Are you saying that China should be one of the first country to significantly cut back on co2 emissions?

 

[Elite Crow]

Brandt is an idiot.

Are you saying that China should be one of the first country to significantly cut back on co2 emissions?

I’m saying that no matter what we do here will make no difference

 

[Carmo]

Blah blah blah. Such a poxy post typical of the airy fairy s**t you post.

Have a look at Kirkys post, 1.3% of emissions, if we reduced our emissions to 0 the worlds emissions reduce by a whopping 1.3%, now tell me would that have stopped the fires as Brandt has suggested?

Severe blindness occurs in less than 1.5% of Australians, so do you think we better get rid of the guide dogs because they won't make a difference? Can you copy me in to your email to your local mp about this, demonstrating your commitment to your principles? Also Australia only has a tiny proportion of all the worlds blind people, China has a much larger proportion. We should wait until China comes up with strategies for dealing with blindness before we do anything right?

Total deafness is less than 0.1% of Australians, time to get rid of services for them?

Less than 1% of Australians use a wheelchair, no more ramps??

 

[Carmo]

I’m saying that no matter what we do here will make no difference

Actually, while your copying me into emails, I also want you to copy me in to the one to your local MP where you argue to just given centerlink unconditionally to all but the top 17 worst dole bludgers. You see Australia is the 17th largest emitter of emissions in the world and so by your argument, if we apply it to dole bludging, only the top 17 dole bludgers are worth hassling, the rest are so insignificant it wont make a difference. Excellent plan EC.

 

[Elite Crow]

Severe blindness occurs in less than 1.5% of Australians, so do you think we better get rid of the guide dogs because they won't make a difference? Can you copy me in to your email to your local mp about this, demonstrating your commitment to your principles? Also Australia only has a tiny proportion of all the worlds blind people, China has a much larger proportion. We should wait until China comes up with strategies for dealing with blindness before we do anything right?

Total deafness is less than 0.1% of Australians, time to get rid of services for them?

Less than 1% of Australians use a wheelchair, no more ramps??

Those are such a ridiculous comparisons, you should be embarrassed.

 

[Elite Crow]

Actually, while your copying me into emails, I also want you to copy me in to the one to your local MP where you argue to just given centerlink unconditionally to all but the top 17 worst dole bludgers. You see Australia is the 17th largest emitter of emissions in the world and so by your argument, if we apply it to dole bludging, only the top 17 dole bludgers are worth hassling, the rest are so insignificant it wont make a difference. Excellent plan EC.

You’ve lost the plot

 

[StonesThrow]

I’m saying that no matter what we do here will make no difference

Who should do something then?

 

[Coopers]

Actually, while your copying me into emails, I also want you to copy me in to the one to your local MP where you argue to just given centerlink unconditionally to all but the top 17 worst dole bludgers. You see Australia is the 17th largest emitter of emissions in the world and so by your argument, if we apply it to dole bludging, only the top 17 dole bludgers are worth hassling, the rest are so insignificant it wont make a difference. Excellent plan EC.

What are you on about?

Is it not just easier to say that if we are creating 1.3% of worldwide emissions, then we are responsible for reducing that amount?

 

[Elite Crow]

Who should do something then?

If the worlds biggest contributors reduced their emissions to zero then them. Not a country that contributes 1.3%, even if we halve it we’ve only saved .75%.

 

[Mutineer]

You’ve lost the plot

Nah, that would indicate he once had the "plot"....he's never been remotely close to having the plot.

 

[Mutineer]

We've been over this. Inaction costs more than action. So if you want the best economic outcome we should've gone full on renewables a decade ago. There's more jobs in renewables than there is in fossil fuels.

Also, even if you don't believe in climate change, we are running short on oil and gas and so we'll need renewables anyway.

Been monitoring the AEMO dashboard Bicks? Did you see SA had the lowest power prices last month? Did you see it's in the lead again this month? Did you see yesterdays price for the whole day was $-81? That's with a bunch of renewables actually switched off to keep the price up too! Imagine the price if they were on! Imagine the price if we had more of them and storage!?

You do realise fossil fuels have subsidies too, right?

Also China and India doing more than we have over the last five years to decrease emissions.




Got anything else for me?

Simon Holmes a' Court..Hohoho

The bloke that has sunk a shitload of his Daddy's inheritance into the renewables industry...

Quite apt the "drip" he and his disciples all have on their bio.

 

[Carmo]

Those are such a ridiculous comparisons, you should be embarrassed.

You’ve lost the plot

Nah, that would indicate he once had the "plot"....he's never been remotely close to having the plot.

Simon Holmes a' Court..Hohoho

The bloke that has sunk a shitload of his Daddy's inheritance into the renewables industry...

Quite apt the "drip" he and his disciples all have on their bio.

Some quality rebuttals there. I love it when you guys use facts and logic.

Lets go post by post, I'll translate these 4 replies:

"Youve cornered me at every avenue I've gone down to make my argument about Australia's emissions, so I'll just insult you instead, pretending, all the while, to still have plenty of counter arguments up my sleeve"

See statement for first post

"I'm also to afraid to attempt to rebut him since he's way better at this data stuff than you or I so I'll just insult him too"

"I'll just try to discredit his source, citing vested interests". (Whilst forgetting I'm a right-wing voter and that they all have massive vested interests and NOT vested in favour of the poor little guys)

 

[brucetiki]

Classy Barnaby

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[Elite Crow]

Some quality rebuttals there. I love it when you guys use facts and logic.

Lets go post by post, I'll translate these 4 replies:

"Youve cornered me at every avenue I've gone down to make my argument about Australia's emissions, so I'll just insult you instead, pretending, all the while, to still have plenty of counter arguments up my sleeve"

See statement for first post

"I'm also to afraid to attempt to rebut him since he's way better at this data stuff than you or I so I'll just insult him too"

"I'll just try to discredit his source, citing vested interests". (Whilst forgetting I'm a right-wing voter and that they all have massive vested interests and NOT vested in favour of the poor little guys)

Can you summarise that in 2 lines, thanks

 

[StonesThrow]

If the worlds biggest contributors reduced their emissions to zero then them. Not a country that contributes 1.3%, even if we halve it we’ve only saved .75%.

Where would we send our coal exports?

 

[Elite Crow]

Where would we send our coal exports?

So you’re ok with exporting coal, just as long as we don’t use it, good to know