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Surely they can’t have 16 year olds out there on their own being manipulated by adults. That’s illegal isn’t it?
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I think most would agree with you, including me. However we have all only seen what producers wanted us to see. Another edit wouldn't change that Tony was better with immunity wins and finding HII but there is so much we don't see with social and strategy that it is plausible Sarah was the better player in this arena. I haven't done a tally but suspect more players when voted out gave fire tokens to Sarah than to Tony, including some that Sarah had a hand in voting out. Would they have voted for Sarah over Tony? Everyone's perception is very different, IIRC one poster on here listed Cirie as their best player not to have won. I wouldn't even have her on my radar as she's too weak in challenges and is someone who could easily be targeted for first out.
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Any suggestion Sarah fully controlled Tony falls flat as soon as Sophie vote out is mentioned.
Yep fair. I don't think Sarah would have won but there are arguments she could have made to give her a chance.
Reading players comments recently I get the impression that Sarah doesn't win against Tony or Natalie in the final 3.
There has been some whispers that Natalie thought she was going to win but her mind was changed 2-3 months after the show finished when talking to a few of the players.
She isn't very happy that the final count wasn't close.
She isn't very happy that the final count wasn't close.
She appears to have taken it fairly well.
Probably means there was an Edge pact, would surprise me if there wasn't one mentioned after that much time.
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She received too many votes as it was imho
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That's what I'd expect against Tony, against Natalie it's harder to know but against either we have to remember that we and the jury never got to hear Sarah's full pitch.
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Tony also said that he's surprised Natalie got as many votes as she did, and that he thought Michele deserved more votes than Natalie.
Not sure that Natalie has much to complain about. Best "first boot" game ever played.
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Thanks for sharing that. I'm not a fan of Russell's but agree with most of what he said there.
Not a fan of Russell's as although he was entertaining to watch and was brilliant at aspects of the game he lacked in some areas. Did he just play up to the villain role? I don't know.
I recall Russell not getting any votes at final tribal in the heroes v villains season. He seemed to fundamentally misread the impact his gameplay had in the jury, or perhaps was he ahead of his time? Hard to say.
Speaking of that season, I felt Parvati should’ve won. A constant target throughout, pulled off some big immunity wins when she needed.
Speaking of that season, I felt Parvati should’ve won. A constant target throughout, pulled off some big immunity wins when she needed.
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Lots of people do (myself included) and the response is almost always something along the lines of "we just don't get to see the sort of social game that Sandra played"
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Ethan sold a bunch of Old School Survivor shirts to raise money for charity. Russell stole the design to sell the New School Survivor shirt he's wearing in the video to raise money for himself. He didn't need to play up anything
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Why doesn't that surprise me
As a relatively young viewer in his first season, I thought he was ripped off by a bitter jury. I've well and truly since learnt that Survivor is much more than getting to the end with the flashiest game.
Sandra got rewarded for trying to warn everybody about him in HvV. Parvati was a bit unlucky from memory.
Probst has said publicly it was a bitter jury that cost him in Samoa, I rewatched the season months ago and in my opinion he wasn't as bad in the final tribal council as people make him out to be.
I thought he was bad in the final tribal in HvV and Parvati's association with him probably was the reason she lost, I thought she deserved it more than Sandra.
I think it would of been interesting if Tony played season 19 instead of Russell and I wonder if that Jury would of giving Tony the win if he played the exact kind of game he did in his first season.
He made a comment in a video doing a preview for season 40 that after his seasons he was drinking too much and acted like an idiot.
Some in the Survivor circle think he was the person that was leaking spoilers for seasons 19 and 20.
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I rewatched it either late last year or early this year, but I was watching them all as quickly as possible to stop the subscription, so I didn't absorb them properly and my memory of them all is a bit mixed up. I'm hindsight, I should have saved them for iso!
I'm not sure that a jury can ever be unjustly bitter. If you're playing with sensitive types, you need to factor that into your game play. Some people can handle it and respect the move, some can't and need to be handled differently. It's all part of jury management.
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I'd add that you can play a big game and betray people, but you may need to grovel, show remorse and apologise at the end. Russell rubbed their noses in it, not a wise move.
Haha I did the same early last year. I think you get a month free and I managed to smash through around 30 seasons in 2 months. Worth $10 but waaaaaaay too much Survivor. Think I slept as much as the players in that time.
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