Autopsy Wayne Carey: "Jack > Buddy"

[HairyO]

Ablett>Carey>Dunstall>Hudson>>>>>>>>>>>>Buddy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kennedy>>>Hawkins>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Riewoldt

Would pick Riewoldt before Hawkins. Hawkins is a 1 dimensional player.

And you forgot Lockett. Who is better than all of them.

 

[Benny78]

So many tears..

Riewoldt is better than Hawkins. Hawkins is about on the Travis Cloke level

Riewoldt is about as cream over cake as Caddy and is completely useless unless his side is up by 4 or more goals

Hawkins however wins games and Grand finals off his own back

 

[Brad Goodman]

No he's not as good as Buddy but swap him with Hawkins I reckon he'd still be a premiership player this year just in a different uniform.

 

[robertg22]

Hawkins is one of the more overrated forwards of this era, does absolutely nothing apart from give dumb free kicks away, how Cat fans can even compare him to Riewoldt is laughable.

He's ok, good for a bag or two against mediocre sides but rarely does it when it matters. After his huge performance against us in 2011 I expected him to take off and become one of the best players in the league. Has never happened & he's 30 next year so that ship has sailed.

 

[BEEG]

Hawkins: 1x AA 0 Colemans
Riewoldt: 2x AA 2 Colemans

Jack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hawkins
Hawkins is the least versatile key forward possible and is crap

haha Jack beats him in pretty much every category, Geelong have had much better teams as well.

 

[HairyO]

How did Jack win two Coleman's then bud? Did Buddy have a hiatus or something from football?

Played more games. One year Buddy kicked 3.555555 average, Jack kicked 3.545454 average. So that was close.

 

[TiggerMan22]

Another hour, another Richmond thread.

On behalf of non-Tigers supporters, we don't care anymore.

Shouldve stopped us from winning the flag then

 

[TiggerMan22]

This is the same Jack Riewoldt that did not even kick 40 goals this year, right???

Might want to check those stats, bud. Jack hasnt kicked under 40 goals since 2009.

 

[MightyTiger]

Played more games. One year Buddy kicked 3.555555 average, Jack kicked 3.545454 average. So that was close.

You are correct, Buddy did miss a handful of games in one of Riewoldts Coleman years, Riewoldt isn't better then Buddy, nobody can ever argue that, but Riewoldt has been a star in what he's been able to achieve given the teams he's played over his career.

 

[TiggerMan22]

Hawkins is much better. Is a better skilled player and has had the better career to date.

lmao. Buddys better than Jack, but Jack is way better than Hawkins.

 

[TiggerMan22]

You are correct, Buddy did miss a handful of games in one of Riewoldts Coleman years, Riewoldt isn't better then Buddy, nobody can ever argue that, but Riewoldt has been a star in what he's been able to achieve given the teams he's played over his career.

The argument from Wayne Carey was he thought Jack was better this year than Buddy, not overall.
And its actually not that crazy considering how important Jacks role was this year. Bringing ball to ground and tackling created so many opportunities that the rest of the forward line required to function.

His other argument was that Buddy kicked 19 more goals in 1 more game played, but a bag of 10 and 8 against Brisbane and Carlton heavily inflated that.

 

[simba_]

remember when campbell brown said waite was better than buddy? what'll these meatheads think of next!

 

[MightyTiger]

The argument from Wayne Carey was he thought Jack was better this year than Buddy, not overall.

Oh ok, I didn't know that he was rating there 2017 years, if that's the case then most definitely one could make an argument for it.

 

[Mal12]

 

[HairyO]

You are correct, Buddy did miss a handful of games in one of Riewoldts Coleman years, Riewoldt isn't better then Buddy, nobody can ever argue that, but Riewoldt has been a star in what he's been able to achieve given the teams he's played over his career.

And he is way better than Hawkins. But really, Im not sure too many would seek to argue that.

 

[HolyRioli]

DId he? Didn't even realise. To me Jack has always been a 40 to 50 goals a season sort of forward.

Franklin played 17 games and 16 games (opposed to Jack's 22) in 2010 and 2012

 

[cannot]

remember when campbell brown said waite was better than buddy? what'll these meatheads think of next!

c brown isnt wayne carey thou

Franklin played 17 games and 16 games (opposed to Jack's 22) in 2010 and 2012

why was bud unavailable ?

another factor as to why jack is superior is he rarely gets injuries/ related issues

 

[TiggyTig]

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Ablett>Carey>Dunstall>Hudson>>>>>>>>>>>>Buddy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kennedy>>>Hawkins>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Riewoldt

hawkins!!

 

[Heaps of fun]

Wayne Carey is a coke snorting, woman beating idiot.

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

Hawkins is much better. Is a better skilled player and has had the better career to date.

No he is not. Jesus Christ im glad Moggs Creek are s**t again. The delusion is incredible. I don't think jack is better than Buddy but he shits on Hawkins from a great height.

 

[HolyRioli]

was he depressed?

another factor as to why jack is superior is he rarely gets injuries/ related issues

And yet despite those injuries, he manages to be a less effective forward than Franklin for 8/10 seasons

As for whether Franklin was depressed, I have no idea. Maybe? Maybe not? Maybe Jack was. I don't see how it's remotely relevant

 

[ess7]

Once Richmond stopped going to Jack as their #1 option they won the flag.

And * he's a FIGJAM. Lucky his cousin is who he is.

 

[cannot]

Wayne Carey is a coke snorting, woman beating idiot.

& maybe best player ever after Rance

also, a key forward so maybe this thoughts are valid

Once Richmond stopped going to Jack as their #1 option they won the flag.
.

well thats one way of looking at it

Castanza the man - thanks for the flag Georgie boy

And **** he's a FIGJAM. Lucky his cousin is who he is

Nick too was a great player.

 

[Tigers_fan24]

Hawkins is much better. Is a better skilled player and has had the better career to date.

Yeah....no though.

 

[ize_]

Hawkins is much better. Is a better skilled player and has had the better career to date.

There's no way known you actually believe that...?