Autopsy Wayne Carey: "Jack > Buddy"

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Put it out there
  1. cannot

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    I am inclined to agree with the King.

    I have always marveled at the talent buddy has but hes far from a flawless player. The hawks have evolved to new standards after he left and he hasnt won enough flags to justify his money; with just a quality team around him at the swannies.

    Jack #1 for tackles in the Grand Final is an example of his career; moving to a more unselfish role after winning multiple colemans as a kid for the betterment of the team.


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    Another hour, another Richmond thread.

    On behalf of non-Tigers supporters, we don't care anymore.
     
  3. Benny78

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    Ablett>Carey>Dunstall>Hudson>>>>>>>>>>>>Buddy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kennedy>>>Hawkins>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Riewoldt
     
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    Wayne Carey = idiot.

    Lance will likely be last in the 1000 goal club for quite some time.
    He is the number 1 forward in the game.
     
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    log off then lad

    give your cousin a shot

    calm down mate
     
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    I assume you mean on stage?
     
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    Richmond can keep Jack. I am quite happy having Buddy.
     
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    Riewoldt is better than Hawkins
     
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    Nah, Buddy > Riewoldt. Riewoldt has a lot of passion, but a talented forward like Buddy is not easy to come across.
     
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    na , forward for football clubs

    the most talented blokes are often down the pub with a crack pipe

    jack has talent (maybe not as much as buddy, whos a freak obviously) but he also has a amazing football brain, heart and courage

    #1 for tackles int he fwd 50 for a long time too
     
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    3 contested marks and 7 tackles? Thats a fine small forward youve got there, wouldnt go as far as saying hes better than Franklin though....
     
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    Jack won two Colemans at like 22 before he was more to HF / CHF / Wing due to dimmas masterplans

    Like Ive been saying. Jack was the best at kicking goals when he was pretty much still a kid. With some very talented men in the league.

    His position has been changed "for the good of the team" which im still skeptical about. However Carey was getting at all around, Jack is the better package and who you would rather as a key forward. And to be fair he would know about these things.
     
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    Hawkins is much better. Is a better skilled player and has had the better career to date.
     
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    Riewoldt is a good player. Not fin to tie Buddy's laces though who will finish up an AFL legend.
     
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    So? Buddy>Jack

    and that’s no slight on him.
     
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    This is the same Jack Riewoldt that did not even kick 40 goals this year, right???
     
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    Bloody hell. Buddy has been a dominant player for almost a decade now. Kicked 100+ in a Premiership year, changed his game significantly in 2013 to become very much a team player and has ironed out a lot of the deficiencies in his game over that time. People forget how good he is because he does it every week.

    As a Tasmanian I like Jack but come on.
     
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    im not sure thats why i made the thread to ask. i just gave my thoughts.

    franklin has more goals but the question raised by carey is who is better.

    thats right reigning premiership forward jack

    the tigers small forward that won the flag are - Rioli, Butler, Castagna

    the like of Lambert can go there and we have some good kids like Bolton, Stengle.

    Jack is playing key forward and pretty much doing the job of two people.... sacrificing himself for the good of the team? Could buddy do that? Not sure
     
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    Jack is a very good player, Buddy is an all time great. No comparison.
     
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    I doubt Jack has beaten Buddy in any goal kicking tally over the course of their careers.
     
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    Not sure Hawkins is better. Hawkins is very limited as a player.

    Buddy is obviously better though.
     
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    I'm a bit confused as to what you're using as your standard of measurement? In your OP you talk about Premierships and Colemans - irrespective of how many Premierships he should have, Buddy has Riewoldt covered on both.

    If you think Buddy doesn't know how to sacrifice his game for the team then I suggest you go and look at the Hawks 2013 season where he effectively played as a decoy forward for most of the year, but still nabbed 60 goals (and 37 points) all while serving as a distraction to the opposition defence for most of the time.
     
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    Turn it up.
     
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    This is a ridiculous thread, I have to say. Some Richmond posters are getting close to the lvl of Perthboy86... Lol
     
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