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Joel Corey and Wojo unlucky tooSteven King unlucky, perhaps Riccardi though I couldn't fit him in to that line up and his best football was in the 90's
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Joel Corey and Wojo unlucky tooSteven King unlucky, perhaps Riccardi though I couldn't fit him in to that line up and his best football was in the 90's
Joel Corey and Wojo unlucky too
Duncan has been a great player, but I think it's unfair to list him twice.B: Enright Scarlett Milburn
HB: Stewart Taylor Mackie
C: Duncan Dangerfield Bartel
HF: S Johnson Cameron Chapman
F: Stokes Hawkins Stengle
Foll: Ablett Ottens Selwood
Int: J Kelly, Blicavs, Duncan, C Guthrie.
Maybe a little bit midfielder heavy but Blicavs offsets that a fair bit. If not for injury Matthew Egan would present a real conundrum
Duncan has been a great player, but I think it's unfair to list him twice.
FB: Enright Scarlett Milburn
HB: Stewart Taylor Mackie
C: Duncan Dangerfield Kelly
HF: Bartel Cameron Miers
FF: Johnson Hawkins Chapman
FOL: Ottens Selwood Ablett
IC: Blicavs Guthrie Stokes Corey
Mine is also midfielder heavy but in this side you'd be able to have Bartel, Ablett and Dangerfield all rotating through the forward flank. Duncan and Kelly are both capable at half back but would be an excellent combo on the wing primarily.
Stengle with one AA season and one solid but unspectacular season hasn't got enough runs on the board yet. Miers delivering to that forward line would be a delight and he can effectively push up as a creative wingman.
Corey remains underrated. He'd round out the more electric midfielders nicely, as he did in the '07-'11 side. And he'd be dishing it out to the many classy players from the pack.
Fair enough. Hypothetically though I reckon in this side Bartel, Ablett and Dangerfield would alternate high half forward so Johnson and Chapman could stay deeper. I reckon they'd be going 40 plus and can still rotate through midfield.Yeah if I could be bothered I’d go back and change my original post but I’ve just made changes on the run, Corey to Duncan’s spot on the field, Duncan to stay on the bench and only be picked once.
I know Stengle’s only been there for two years and one of those he missed nearly half of it.
It’s just the one position that we have never had a consistently elite type posting 50 goal seasons (genuine small forward) so I’ve sort of clung onto him in the absence of others
Fair enough. Hypothetically though I reckon in this side Bartel, Ablett and Dangerfield would alternate high half forward so Johnson and Chapman could stay deeper. I reckon they'd be going 40 plus and can still rotate through midfield.
Stengle with a few more good years could build his case. I included Miers because he was elite in his role in 2023 but also had a very good 2022 and former years as more of a goal sneak (even if his goal kicking radar was off this year). I imagine that's who Stengle would compete with for that last forward spot.
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Collingwood 21st Century Best 23
FB Brayden Maynard - Simon Prestigiacomo - James Clement
HB Nick Maxwell - Darcy Moore - Heath Shaw
C Steele Sidebottom - Nathan Buckley - Dale Thomas
HF Jordan De Goey - Brody Mihocek - Jamie Elliot
FF Leon Davis - Travis Cloke - Alan Didak
FOLL Darren Jolly - Dane Swan - Scott Pendlebury
BENCH Ben Johnson - Scott Burns - Nick Dacios - Chris Tarrant
SUB: Anthony Rocca
Thoughts?
Davis played half back in 2011 and got AA alongside it, but retired shortly afterwards due to a falling out with Buckley.Would probably stick Rocca in the team as that forward line is a little on the short side otherwise. A very good team though.
Also my memory could be failing me but didn't Leon Davis do his best work off half back?
That would be one tough defensive group to crack. I'd probably only pick two of Maynard, Clement and Maxwell though. Maybe Ben Johnson or Lumumba as an extra running rebounder at half back? I've noticed you do have the former on the bench.Collingwood 21st Century Best 23
FB Brayden Maynard - Simon Prestigiacomo - James Clement
HB Nick Maxwell - Darcy Moore - Heath Shaw
C Steele Sidebottom - Nathan Buckley - Dale Thomas
HF Jordan De Goey - Brody Mihocek - Jamie Elliot
FF Leon Davis - Travis Cloke - Alan Didak
FOLL Darren Jolly - Dane Swan - Scott Pendlebury
BENCH Ben Johnson - Scott Burns - Nick Dacios - Chris Tarrant
SUB: Anthony Rocca
Thoughts?
Good shout, and not far off I wouldnt think. Personally, I would make 2 changes for a bit more team balance.Baker Hudghton Dempster
Goddard Fisher Sinclair
Montagna Hayes Dal Santo
Ball Riewoldt Steele
Milne Gehrig Schneider
Marshall Harvey Steven
Wilkie Geary Ross A Jones
Pretty spot on but...Geary out, Hamill in. I'd have Gram over Ross as well.Baker Hudghton Dempster
Goddard Fisher Sinclair
Montagna Hayes Dal Santo
Ball Riewoldt Steele
Milne Gehrig Schneider
Marshall Harvey Steven
Wilkie Geary Ross A Jones
Probably squeeze Hunter in there for Braun.
Lacking a bit for genuine forwards. It's quite defender heavy. I think Lynch, Richo and Riewoldt could fit in the same side. One would be able to roam or play third tall.Something like this I'd say -
fb- J. Bowden, D. Gaspar, D. Grimes
hb- B. Houli, A. Rance, C. Newman
c- S. Grigg, K Johnson, W. Campbell
hf- B. Deledio, M. Richardson, K. Lambert
ff- S. Edwards, J. Riewoldt, N. Brown
r- T. Nankervis, D. Martin, T. Cotchin
i/c: N. Vlastuin, D. Astbury, D. Prestia, J.Short
I guess there's a lot of competition for midfielders but Fletcher was very good and could be considered unlucky to miss out.Yeah fair call I think - I did um and ahh a little on that final spot - Hunter would add a bit more team balance.
Also consider Liam Ryan but just not enough good footy unfortunately.
Ben Reid or Tarrant for that Swingman spot?Collingwood 21st Century Best 23
FB Brayden Maynard - Simon Prestigiacomo - James Clement
HB Nick Maxwell - Darcy Moore - Heath Shaw
C Steele Sidebottom - Nathan Buckley - Dale Thomas
HF Jordan De Goey - Brody Mihocek - Jamie Elliot
FF Leon Davis - Travis Cloke - Alan Didak
FOLL Darren Jolly - Dane Swan - Scott Pendlebury
BENCH Ben Johnson - Scott Burns - Nick Dacios - Chris Tarrant
SUB: Anthony Rocca
Thoughts?
Prove to me why Rocca is more impactful than Mihocek.Ben Reid or Tarrant for that Swingman spot?
Also as others have said Rocca over Mihocek.
4 seasons going at 2+ goals a game compared to none.Prove to me why Rocca is more impactful than Mihocek.
Forgot about Lynch to be honest. Bolton probably an oversight too.Lacking a bit for genuine forwards. It's quite defender heavy. I think Lynch, Richo and Riewoldt could fit in the same side. One would be able to roam or play third tall.
Rioli has been good at either end. He or Bolton would add better balance IMO.
4 seasons going at 2+ goals a game compared to none.
Rocca set up more goals for team mates.
Booming kick.
More inside 50s and contested possessions per game.
A much better contested mark, borne out by stats and just watching them play.
The fact he did it for 15 odd seasons counts for something unless Miochek is well and truly ahead of him for talent and output.
What does Miochek do better - a few more tackles? Rocca even has hom covered for 1%ers.
Jed Adock ya reckon?Brisbane Lions 2000-2023
B: Johnson, Michael, Andrews
HB: Rich, Leppitsch, White
C: Lappin, Voss (c), McCluggage
HF: Akermanis, Brown, Zorko
F: Cameron, Lynch, Bradshaw
Foll: Martin, Black, Neale
Int: Power, Beams, Adcock, M. Ashcroft
Sub: Pike
McRae, Hanley, Rockliff, Redden, Lyons, Notting probably most unlucky.
No doubt I’ve missed someone obvious.