News Tim Kelly traded to West Coast - ***Opposition fans read the OP***

[Seeds]

If you can find me a Geelong game where he dominated whilst being tagged I'll go heave.

Gold coast game. Was tagged heavily. Was our best player.

 

[iameviljez]

'On the spectrum' could mean anything given the wide range of qualifying behaviours. It certainly doesn't mean a life of misery for the child or parents, especially for parents who can afford specialist carers.

Kelly himself stated that two of his kids have nonverbal autism.

 

[Seeds]

Disagree. Parfitt already shows more now than Caddy ever did. He was very fortunate to even be in their 17 flag team; probably their bottom 3. He is an opportunist at best.

Um ive never seen parfit play a game like caddy did against footscrsy where he had like 37 touches and was side stepping players at will. Nor has parfitt played a game like caddys final against nth.

 

[CatTricks]

Anyone able to provide a login to read thewest articles by any chance?

 

[iameviljez]

Disagree. Parfitt already shows more now than Caddy ever did. He was very fortunate to even be in their 17 flag team; probably their bottom 3. He is an opportunist at best.

If Parfitt pulled out a 46 goal season like Caddy has, I'd be pinching myself.

 

[Vdubs]

Um ive never seen parfit play a game like caddy did against footscrsy where he had like 37 touches and was side stepping players at will. Nor has parfitt played a game like caddys final against nth.

Either have I. Seen Caddy do that.

 

[Vdubs]

If Parfitt pulled out a 46 goal season like Caddy has, I'd be pinching myself.

How would Parfitt go at Richmond?
How did Caddy go at Geelong? He was behind all of Danger, Duncan, Selwood, Menegola, and possibly in his mind, Scooter, and maybe even Guthrie.

 

[iameviljez]

How would Parfitt go at Richmond?
How did Caddy go at Geelong? He was behind all of Danger, Duncan, Selwood, Menegola, and possibly in his mind, Scooter, and maybe even Guthrie.

Caddy improved, simple as that.

 

[Catters 070911]

I am happy with what we got for Kelly.

Now I think we need to take these picks to the draft, and not trade them away.

The only trade I would accept if we traded 14 and 24 to get say, a Pick 9 or a Pick 6, for example. If we give a couple of picks to move into the top ten, then it should be considered.

But we shouldn't use anything higher than 37 for Jack Steven.

Don't forget, not only do we have these picks in the Kelly deal, but he have our own pick, Pick 17, as well, meaning that we can go to the draft with Pick 14, 17, 24, and 37 (as well as next year's first rounder) (unless we upgrade a pick, as explained before).

But we shouldn't give up any of these picks for players, unless Nat Fyfe or Brodie Grundy or someone of that ilk wants to come to Geelong.

 

[Catters 070911]

Tim Kelly is a ball-gatherer.

His partner is a ball-breaker.

 

[romeohwho]

Will be interesting to see how he performs back home with the pressures of family life, friends, influences, money etc.. In Geelong he had 2 things, family and football.. Now he will have A LOT more on his plate - will be a good case study.

He’ll go great.

 

[romeohwho]

Tim Kelly is a ball-gatherer.

His partner is a ball-breaker.

More of the Yoko whine? We have no idea what goes on in their household. He’s gone. Let it go.

 

[Vdubs]

If Parfitt pulled out a 46 goal season like Caddy has, I'd be pinching myself.

As you say, "pulled out". it certainly is the outlier cf all his other seasons. But, yes, impressive goals in 18, and 37 possessions again impressive.
All I knew back when we had him, I was not at all upset when he left for Richmond. His 37 possession game was with us, and it did not leave a lasting impression. But despite rarely missing a game for years, I could be wrong about him.

 

[MacStradbroke]

Um ive never seen parfit play a game like caddy did against footscrsy where he had like 37 touches and was side stepping players at will. Nor has parfitt played a game like caddys final against nth.

2015 Caddy against dogs 171 CD points
2018 Parfitt against Saints 164 CD points
Certainly hasn't matched the output of Caddy just yet, and may never, but he has pulled one out of the box, just like Caddy has.

 

[Crankitup]

Spot on - and i reckon in a real gun side - he would play half forward - he wouldnt play midfield

In that 4 minute highlight package which is on the internet - of his 2 seasons with the Cats - they havent got his best goal - and that was the one against the Suns - in Qld - that was a brilliant crumbing goal off the pack - mercurial is the word to describe that bit of play - and thats what he would be capable of - if he was played permanently forward

Ive got no problem with him leaving given the circumstances - Geel got well compensated - and Kelly is a likeable person

But i think it is a huge risk re his football career - i mean Eagles supporters think Kelly is the missing part of the jigsaw - and they are basically saying that with Kelly they will be playing Rich in next years GF . The thing about Kelly - is he isnt quick - and has struggled with the hard tag - there will be enormous pressure on him next year - the money they are paying - and their supporter expectations of him - they are expecting huge things from him - the missing piece to get the flag

Best analogy i can give ( in my opinion ) is they have recruited a Brett Heady type to go into their midfield . Heady would go into the Eagles midfield now and again - most notably the 92 GF - where he got thown in their - and played very well against Paul Couch . However Headys best position by far was around the goals - because he was clever and super dangerous around the goals - and that is Tim Kelly to a tee . In a super strong team Kelly would be played as a permanent forward - with only the occasional run on the ball

Didn't struggle in the Gold Coast game. I know what you're saying though.

IMO, if sides want to tag Kelly in 2020 they'll have to choose which of Gaff, Yeo and Shuey they aren't going to tag. Can't tag all of them.

 

[Seeds]

Caddy improved, simple as that.

He didnt improve. He just had a less injury prone season. Caddys best form has been at geelong prior to his injury issues.

 

[Seeds]

2015 Caddy against dogs 171 CD points
2018 Parfitt against Saints 164 CD points
Certainly hasn't matched the output of Caddy just yet, and may never, but he has pulled one out of the box, just like Caddy has.

Parfitts game was very good. High twenty touch game.

Caddys was better though.

Parfits only had over 25 touches twice. Caddy would at least be a dozen and all bar 2 were before he went to richmond (i.e. pre injury).

 

[thecatattack]

If Parfitt pulled out a 46 goal season like Caddy has, I'd be pinching myself.

Parfitt is a 21yr old midfielder showing more than Caddy did at this age and stage of his career.

 

[thecatattack]

2015 Caddy against dogs 171 CD points
2018 Parfitt against Saints 164 CD points
Certainly hasn't matched the output of Caddy just yet, and may never, but he has pulled one out of the box, just like Caddy has.

Parfitt was 19yrs old for this game, Caddy was 23.

Caddy's best game at 19 was 27 touches, 3 marks and 2 tackles against the Dogs.

Parfitt's best at that age was way better than Caddy's.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

Caddy was tried in the middle (big mid), but he did not perform up to expectations. He had no feel for dishing it off. He looked like he was playing a game of British Bulldog when he got the ball. Never got it out, and always ended up under the pack. Looked ok on the flank. He kept at it, and in some role playing games as a mid he started to do ok. One game, half the mids we had were out injured so he played a lead role. That was the 37 possession game against the Bulldogs. But they never let him play that lead mid role again. His papers were marked.

 

[Max Milburn]

Caddy v Parfitt. Really?

 

[Nickoo]

2015 Caddy against dogs 171 CD points
2018 Parfitt against Saints 164 CD points
Certainly hasn't matched the output of Caddy just yet, and may never, but he has pulled one out of the box, just like Caddy has.

Parfitt has been in system three years. Caddy getting on towards a decade, Parfitt has shown more rated year but year than caddy. I can barely remember Caddy, especially that Geelong media gumf from ‘16 calling him grunt. The perfect moment to describe him was HT’s pass to him where he was out the back in the ‘16 QF.

Prefer Parfitt over him any day.


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[Nickoo]

Caddy v Parfitt. Really?

Why not max? TK’s gone so this thread is going no where.


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[cats_09]

If folks want to discuss Parfitt vs Caddy there's threads that better fit that line of talk and it's not in the TK trade thread

Can we please get discussion back on track

Cheers

 

[Nickoo]

One last thing watching TK’s highlights package for the Weagles well if anyone thinks we replace him with the likes of fogarty chook etc you’ve got rocks in your head. He was a jet for us. Bloody hell.


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