List Mgmt. 2021 Trade Thread - Part II

[George]

Continued in Part III

List Mgmt. - 2021 Trade Thread - Part III

We are onto Part 3.

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Delisted;
Oscar Clavarino

38

Oscar Clavarino

Age

24

Ht

197cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

No player stats available

Sam Alabakis

45

Sam Alabakis

Age

26

Ht

211cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

Traded;
-

Retired;
Jake Carlisle

2

Jake Carlisle

Age

32

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.7

3star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

116.3

2star

D

11.7

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

12.4

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.6

5star

T

0.8

3star

Dylan Roberton

17

Dylan Roberton

Age

32

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.1

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

373.2

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

215.0

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

Shaun McKernan

27

Shaun Mckernan

Age

33

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

James Frawley

24

James Frawley

Age

35

Ht

193cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.2

4star

K

9.2

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.9

4star

MG

135.4

2star

D

8.7

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.9

2star

MG

135.4

2star

D

9.0

3star

K

4.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

Current Players Out of Contract;
7. Luke Dunstan

27

Luke Dunstan

Age

29

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.7

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.6

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

9.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

18.2

5star

K

6.0

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

6.2

5star

CL

4.2

5star

(RFA) - Link
13. Jack Lonie

13

Jack Lonie

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.8

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

10.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

- Link
25. Dean Kent

25

Dean Kent

Age

30

Ht

181cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.0

4star

G

1.2

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.6

3star

- Link
39. Darragh Joyce

41

Darragh Joyce

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

3star

MG

207.6

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.4

4star

MG

207.6

4star

- Link
41. Paul Hunter

41

Paul Hunter

Age

31

Ht

200cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

No player stats available

- Link


To see the full list (it gets updated regularly) visit this thread;

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Trade Period
Players: Monday October 4 – Wednesday October 13
Picks: Monday October 4 – tbc (approx. Friday November 19)

List Lodgement 1
tbc (approx. Thursday October 28)

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
tbc (approx. Friday October 29 - Monday November 8)

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
tbc (approx. Tuesday November 9)

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
tbc (approx. Wednesday November 10 - Friday November 19)

 

[sammm]

In summary:
Dunstan wants to go to the dons
Would've left even if offered a contract
Rats didn't rate him, it is hard to change opinions

“He didn’t rate me”: Dunstan “disappointed” with way St Kilda treated him

“I think it’s pretty clear that he didn’t rate me.”

www.sen.com.au

I don't rate him either. Lol

 

[t_94]

Young Luke has made a big mistake. Always easy to blame somebody else for your issues.
When he matures he’ll look back on his recent behaviors at St Kilda with some embarrassment.

Were his comments that bad? Said the coach didn’t rate him and a fresh start would be good? Probably a fair summary of the situation?

Ive never rated him that highly but I certainly rated the way he played when he returned to the side.

I am not sure that Brad Crouch’s best is that much better than Dunstan’s best to be honest. He does get closer to his best more often than Dunstan though.

I’m also not certain that Jack Bytel is the next Diesel Williams as some on here portray him to be.

 

[sammm]

Media is incompetent. He hasnt been offered a contract but won't be officially delisted until after trade period/when free agency ends. Saints stuffed it a little, should've said we have to see where we're at to keep value. Any club that wants him will just wait

Your right, however the Saints would've looked like idiots and laughing stock if they had said wait and see and Dunstan comes out and says I ain't interested in staying..

 

[malevu]

I think the quality of the team that picks up Dunstan will say a lot about his real standing in the comp. If a team in contention adds him to their list it will question our decision but if it's the Suns well not so much.

I don't want him at Essendon or Geelong. Other than that I couldn't care less. Good luck to him, he's been a decent soldier but we need to distance ourselves from players with below average skills if we want to get anywhere.

 

[St Neil]

My theory is that we think we might be a chance for Ben King next year.

So it makes zero sense to go and give away good draft picks for another ruckman when we won't be able to fit two Kings and two genuine rucks in one side and we already have two ruckmen this year.

So it makes sense just to find a cheap option until Paddy retires and we know what's going on with Bing.

Right now we need other things more than we need another quality ruckman on our list.

Nailed it.

It wouldn’t surprise me if we’ve already received a definitive answer about Bing’s intentions.

 

[PandaG]

Again of footy classified they suggested Gold Coast should pay Ben double but Kane said he thinks Ben will leave.
Save #7 for Ben, it’s the obvious choice

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

Which is higher, GOAT or GOD?

Contradictorily, there have been plenty of GOATs. Ablett Sr the only GOD though.

The higher praise would be Sharman is the second coming, this centuries GOD.

And then one day Sharman will be recognised as the one true GOD, and Ablett Sr was just a pretender.

Grandstands won't be named after him, no, instead this entire land will be renamed Sharmania!

Too far??

Sharman being GOD makes sense. There’s only one of him but it’s very likely that we’ll have multiple Kings, much like the real world

 

[Ephemeral Hope]

My theory is that we think we might be a chance for Ben King next year.

So it makes zero sense to go and give away good draft picks for another ruckman when we won't be able to fit two Kings and two genuine rucks in one side and we already have two ruckmen this year.

So it makes sense just to find a cheap option until Paddy retires and we know what's going on with Bing.

Right now we need other things more than we need another quality ruckman on our list.

My dream scenario is we decide to not go for a ruck at all this trade period and through circumstance we’re forced to play Max Heath early. We’re all freaking out and melting that injuries have screwed us again and that we have to play a first year 18 year old ruck. But Heath has an absolute blinder Sharman style. 30 hit outs 20 touches and 2 goals in his first match. Averaging 25 and 15 and a goal a game for the rest of the season.

 

[stavro#4]

My dream scenario is we decide to not go for a ruck at all this trade period and through circumstance we’re forced to play Max Heath early. We’re all freaking out and melting that injuries have screwed us again and that we have to play a first year 18 year old ruck. But Heath has an absolute blinder Sharman style. 30 hit outs 20 touches and 2 goals in his first match. Averaging 25 and 15 and a goal a game for the rest of the season.

Including an Aussie Jones replica goal in the 2022 Grand final

 

[St Neil]

Again of footy classified they suggested Gold Coast should pay Ben double but Kane said he thinks Ben will leave.
Save #7 for Ben, it’s the obvious choice

Cornes has been talking to Caroline Wilson. She is convinced Ben is going to St Kilda.

 

[stavro#4]

Cornes has been talking to Caroline Wilson. She is convinced Ben is going to St Kilda.

Caroline has broken a fair few stories recently

 

[Munga]

Hmm, might have been a bit harsh on Dunstan going by the audio. He actually said that the coach didn't rate him but he holds nothing against him, he just can't do another 12 months of that and needs to be in a happier place. All sounds pretty fair and I hope he finds that place.

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

Cornes has been talking to Caroline Wilson. She is convinced Ben is going to St Kilda.

sauce?

 

[joydivision22]

Sharman for #7

Has a lot of young nat fyfe about him doesnt he! See Sydney debut

 

[Saint Watto]

I almost blew my drink out of my nose hearing Jon Ralph tonight saying the Saints look like fools delisting Dunstan with his Brownlow haul.
Ralph just been added to the "NFI" list.

You just have to love the media pile on.

There was an article this morning on Fox Sports giving us a good old spray......just checked,it's no longer there.

Basically saying we have NFI.

There's also now another article by Ben Waterworth........nice dump there Luke.

Have a read and make your own mind up.

 

[malevu]

Ladhams is a yes from me if the asking price is reasonable. Reckon Geelong will come calling.

 

[Joffaboy]

He did. Thats why he got selected.

Then became our second best midfielder for the 2nd half of the season and actually got us within striking distance of the finals. Along the way he picked up 11 Brownlow votes.

Yet still found himself on the outer at the end of the season. Looking suspiciously like the coach might struggle to admit he makes mistakes.

A bit like how the whole of the first part of the season played out.

LOL. Ok

 

[DarkSaint]

Sad to see Dunstan go. Played with more heart than many of his team mates. Yes I'm looking at you Ross and co.

I'm in the keep Luke camp for depth.

But imo he has been treated worse than most players the last few years. I will admit got games early on in his career when we had absolutely no one.

But some of the games that Ross/Hill have produced over the last 2 years have been diabolical and not once have they been dropped.

Fair to say the coach didn't rate him and only played him this year based on averaging close to 40 and a goal in the VFL.

Was our 2nd best mid behind Steele for the second half of the season. Say what you want about him, but you can't deny that.

 

[snails13]

I've never been a Dunstan basher,and after reading the SEN interview am a little Wowed by it
But please,Luke,have you had a look at Bombers Midfield line up .
That's a little bit of overconfidence in your ability.

 

[puppy_dog7]

Sad to see Dunstan go. Played with more heart than many of his team mates. Yes I'm looking at you Ross and co.

I'm in the keep Luke camp for depth.

But imo he has been treated worse than most players the last few years. I will admit got games early on in his career when we had absolutely no one.

But some of the games that Ross/Hill have produced over the last 2 years have been diabolical and not once have they been dropped.

Fair to say the coach didn't rate him and only played him this year based on averaging close to 40 and a goal in the VFL.

Was our 2nd best mid behind Steele for the second half of the season. Say what you want about him, but you can't deny that.

Ross has at least been in the leadership group for half his career. Dunstan hasn’t. Id say that has something to do with it. Not rated by his peers or coaches.

Asked why he was so keen to get out of the Saints, Dunstan said: “If I was to have to go through another 12 months, I probably would’ve preferred to move on and start the next stage of my life, which I would’ve been happy to do. But I still want to keep playing footy.”

So he’d rather retire than have another year fighting for a spot in the team, playing Footy for a living, which some of us would dream to do.
Certainly not the attitude of a leader.

Luke needs to take a look at our runner up B&F this year Jack Sinclair. Ratts didn’t have in the team halfway through 2020 but worked on his game, fought his way back in and changed Ratts’ perspective of him.

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

I've never been a Dunstan basher,and after reading the SEN interview am a little Wowed by it
But please,Luke,have you had a look at Bombers Midfield line up .
That's a little bit of overconfidence in your ability.

healy or the other idiot brought up the bombers, luke was just playing along

 

[StCicatriz]

On the couch just showed why we should let Seb go

they had a 60 minutes, 90 minute, 2 hours, 10 year long special?

 

[StCicatriz]

Cornes has been talking to Caroline Wilson. She is convinced Ben is going to St Kilda.

kind of obvious where caro got her mail from... if you dig up the footy classified episode she first said it on. i mean she basically told everyone who she heard it from.

you won't get much higher or more informed.

 

[Munga]

Has a lot of young nat fyfe about him doesnt he! See Sydney debut

And he's a much better kick!

 

[Jay Beast]

Clarkson said on AFL360 that he will be ready and raring again to coach in 2023. Let’s just try and get him.

My spidey-sense tells me this is on the cards.