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I imagine these days it's because players go on holidays now while draftees and list management teams are gearing up for their main month and having the trade window open for picks only allows clubs to manoeuvre if they go hot/cold on potential draftees.What's the point of trade period when you can still trade right up to and including draft day?
Should get 1 week to trade picks/players then everything is locked in.
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At least he didn’t say 2 and 3.
I mean for North that’s objectively worse, but he bent the rule, he didn’t break it
Look man I’d be doing cartwheels at Optus if North would hand over 2, 3 and the other stuff.Actually good to know you're fine with ridiculously over the top as long as it's not specifically involving 2 AND 3 this year. Carry on.
Look man I’d be doing cartwheels at Optus if North would hand over 2, 3 and the other stuff.
Look at it from their list point of view - they have a good young midfield and little else. They have golden opportunity to potentially fix their list with this draft alone.
Or they can spend way overs for Harley Reid.
What if it was 2 and a F1? I still they reckon they would by any stretch unless they drank their own kool aid and are predicted a rapid rise up the ladder which, given they had to ask for AFL help is unlikely.
Shoe on the other foot here. Be honest.
We have North’s picks, they have ours. Are you giving 2,3 and say 18 for their pick 1?
They need KPPs, which aren't available to them much before 6 or 7. It actually doesn't hurt them to turn 2 and 3 into 1 and 4-5 picks between 6 and 20. They have plenty of midfielders.Look man I’d be doing cartwheels at Optus if North would hand over 2, 3 and the other stuff.
Look at it from their list point of view - they have a good young midfield and little else. They have golden opportunity to potentially fix their list with this draft alone.
Or they can spend way overs for Harley Reid.
What if it was 2 and a F1? I still they reckon they would by any stretch unless they drank their own kool aid and are predicted a rapid rise up the ladder which, given they had to ask for AFL help is unlikely.
Shoe on the other foot here. Be honest.
We have North’s picks, they have ours. Are you giving 2,3 and say 18 for their pick 1?
You’re gonna be surprised by this.No, I'm totally with you all the way that they should under no circumstances overspend to get pick 1. In a perfect world they'd all bog off, and we'd draft Reid while having a relaxing time up till the draft.
Instead we have the dumbest member of the Mexicools swanning by regularly trying to be 2018 vintage Snake Baker while the Vic media competes for dumbest trade suggestion for the next five weeks.
I just think it's fine for our recruitment team to ask for 2 and 3 as a minimum, and for our forum posters to run with that.
So unless we get a trade that fixes OUR list in one hit, let's keep it unreasonable
I think our only difference of opinion is I would be happy to add a year to our rebuild to annoy the Vic media and certain North fans.You’re gonna be surprised by this.
I actually agree with every word you say there.
We should ask a high price.
We should also determine whether as a list a compromise would serve us better.
As Keys said last night and as I said on the North board, the way this draft is compromised so dramatically means our second pick is closer to the end of the draft than the start. For a list with so many gaps, it probably is more prudent to try and load up on upper mid talent if it means McKercher is the big fish instead of Reid
I don’t think you can turn down 2 and 6 myself. Thats the cheese and the blinds in one go.I think our only difference of opinion is I would be happy to add a year to our rebuild to annoy the Vic media and certain North fans.
I also believe we're already a decent distance into our rebuild and Reid could make our next peak higher and wider.
It's going to be a tough call for our recruiters if North somehow offer 2 and 6.
I don’t think you can turn down 2 and 6 myself. Thats the cheese and the blinds in one go.
Let’s come back this time in 2038 yeah?It would be a fitting sequel in the analyzed until the end of time stakes of pick 2 for 8 and 12.
Yeah, JHF had a fairly pedestrian (for a top overall pick) first year, and when he was traded out with pick 1 it brought back picks 2, 3, 40 and 43. The only way he doesn't bring back a big haul is if he's a bust.Why the worry about Reid going home after 3 years? If he becomes the star he's predicted to be then his value will be even more then than it is now.
Yeah, JHF had a fairly pedestrian (for a top overall pick) first year, and when he was traded out with pick 1 it brought back picks 2, 3, 40 and 43. The only way he doesn't bring back a big haul is if he's a bust.
JHF didn’t bring that.
We traded JHF AND pick 1.
In isolation JHF was traded for like 8 and 15.
2, 3, 15, 40, 43 for 1, 1 & 57Done deal: Horne-Francis, Rioli land at Port in four-club mega trade - Done deal: Horne-Francis, Rioli land at Port in four-club mega trade
That's a bit disingenuous
It was a 4 way trade. Pick 1 and JHF netted you Sheezel, Wardlaw and Ports 1st this year. Nth only traded the pick 1 because they knew GWS were taking Cadman and you'd still get Sheezel at 2.
Without that trade, Nth still have Sheezel and JHF. With the trade, you have Wardlaw and Ports 1st instead of JHF
But that doesn't suit your narrative quite aswell I guess