2017 - Non Yeo Discussion (Formerly Non Freo Discussion)

[meima]

All AFL games are overwhelmingly impassioned spectacles.

Except freo , forever passion.

 

[igon value]

It's a free hit for the AFL. Massive ratings, attendance & revenue for a stinker of a game every year.

I have always thought it was the only time both Carlton and Richmond fans could have hope for the season.

At the end of the game one club loses and realises they aren't up to it, by the end of round one the winner sees that other clubs are pretty good too, and by round two the winner of Carlton and Richmond experiences their own coup de grace.

 

[Nightrain]

Has there been a more uninspiring captain than Marc Murphy? The bloke seems to have succeeded based on his under 16 form and still riding those waves. Average player and worse leader.

 

[meima]

Has there been a more uninspiring captain than Marc Murphy? The bloke seems to have succeeded based on his under 16 form and still riding those waves. Average player and worse leader.

Mundy 10x better as captain.

 

[Nightrain]

Mundy 10x better as captain.

Whilst Mundy wasn't memorable he was better than Murphy and if given the amount of time Murphy has had as captain, I would back him in to be 10x better.

 

[Okinakashi]

So Chris Mayne can't even get a game at Collingwood...

 

[scon]

Ross got the best out of him.

 

[westy1]

Has there been a more uninspiring captain than Marc Murphy? The bloke seems to have succeeded based on his under 16 form and still riding those waves. Average player and worse leader.

Building your team Around Murphy is like building your house on sand

 

[Schauermann]

So Chris Mayne can't even get a game at Collingwood...

Strange, they gave him a pretty decent contract...

 

[danstar]

Chris Mayne is laughing all the way to the bank will barely play a game over the next 4 yrs now that buckley realises the guy is a hack

 

[Gussman]

I ultimately can't be mad with Mayne anymore. He got us Brad Hill, who looks like a gun, and screwed over Collingwood. Only thing he could of done better is not miss every single shot when with us, but start doing it when with Collingwood.

 

[estibador]

TBH, the match is pretty boring. If not because this is the first match I will skip it.

You're a hard man to please (or maybe I'm just easy). I thought it was pretty entertaining footy for the most part.

 

[rgauci]

You're a hard man to please (or maybe I'm just easy). I thought it was pretty entertaining footy for the most part.

We (Freo supporters) are all into pressure these days. I didn't see any. Not enjoyable.

 

[DOCKERZ]

Wonder if Mayne still believes he can be used a lot better at Collingwood?

 

[estibador]

We (Freo supporters) are all into pressure these days. I didn't see any. Not enjoyable.

In our games yeah, but I still enjoy watching mindless shootouts in neutral games.

 

[salim malik]

Last nights game was as boring as bat s**t, no intensity or pressure . Those who like these uninspiring shootouts and judge all games by whether a 100 pts are scored would have been in their net balling element.

 

[Unique Name]

It was bruise free footy... i enjoyed parts of it.

Still think first game back should be a GF replay, unfurl the flag, show off the cup, etc.

 

[meima]

Last nights game was as boring as bat s**t, no intensity or pressure . Those who like these uninspiring shootouts and judge all games by whether a 100 pts are scored would have been in their net balling element.

To be fair both team field a pretty young team , I will be concern if mid season they still play the same brand of footy . I also though no third man up actually pretty good for both team ruckmen fair and square

 

[wayToGo_]

I have a strong preference for contested football but only when it is paired by at least some level of skill - ie not just contested because it is just win the ball and bomb it forward, rinse and repeat. I don't personally like watching the teams that kick it around like a game of "keepy-off" and I don't get the AFL's obsession with trying to kill any and all congestion. Congestion is where some of the best moments in the game happen - a player charging out of a pack with the ball, someone launching for a speccy over a pack, a small forward snapping a goal whilst surrounded by defenders, a player weaving their magic through a group of players. On the flip side fast transition from the back line through to a goal on a fast lead is pretty exciting to watch but the best ones almost always have at least one moment of brilliance where someone wins a contested possession, that allows it to happen. Without the contests it's a bit like watching a slow game of netball on a massive court.

I didn't mind last night's game but probably only because it was the first game of the season which means footy is back. I very much doubt I would have sat through it if it were mid season.

 

[Gussman]

I have a strong preference for contested football but only when it is paired by at least some level of skill - ie not just contested because it is just win the ball and bomb it forward, rinse and repeat. I don't personally like watching the teams that kick it around like a game of "keepy-off" and I don't get the AFL's obsession with trying to kill any and all congestion. Congestion is where some of the best moments in the game happen - a player charging out of a pack with the ball, someone launching for a speccy over a pack, a small forward snapping a goal whilst surrounded by defenders, a player weaving their magic through a group of players. On the flip side fast transition from the back line through to a goal on a fast lead is pretty exciting to watch but the best ones almost always have at least one moment of brilliance where someone wins a contested possession, that allows it to happen. Without the contests it's a bit like watching a slow game of netball on a massive court.

I didn't mind last night's game but probably only because it was the first game of the season which means footy is back. I very much doubt I would have sat through it if it were mid season.

Isn't that half of freo's game? Get the lead and then just kick it back and forth along half-back. Eventually kicking it to Dawson, who turns over the ball and the lead with it?

 

[wayToGo_]

Isn't that half of freo's game? Get the lead and then just kick it back and forth along half-back. Eventually kicking it to Dawson, who turns over the ball and the lead with it?

Exactly, and I hate it. I also hate the work hard to win the ball and then just bomb it in hope strategy. Awful to watch! What I think works best is run and skills coming out of the back half, contested winners in the centre and some 'magic' players in the front half (and maybe a couple of quality KPFs). We have some of that formula at least.

 

[ydraw]

Ross got the best out of him.

That's one way of looking at it.

Another way of looking it is that we just kept picking him despite him being complete s**t for 2 years.

Personally not surprised at all that Mayne couldn't get a game there. Never really known what anybody sees in him, I guess Collingwood had to find that out the hard way.

 

[meima]

That's one way of looking at it.

Another way of looking it is that we just kept picking him despite him being complete s**t for 2 years.

Personally not surprised at all that Mayne couldn't get a game there. Never really known what anybody sees in him, I guess Collingwood had to find that out the hard way.

His output is a lot better than Tab.

 

[Tazmania]

That's one way of looking at it.

Another way of looking it is that we just kept picking him despite him being complete s**t for 2 years.

Personally not surprised at all that Mayne couldn't get a game there. Never really known what anybody sees in him, I guess Collingwood had to find that out the hard way.

I wonder if Collingwood not picking him will cause any moments of reflection at Fremantle about their selection strategies...eg "He cant have gone that far backward in one off season...so maybe he was poor all along and we shouldn't have picked him...who else are we picking that others wouldn't?"

 

[Nightrain]

I wonder if Collingwood not picking him will cause any moments of reflection at Fremantle about their selection strategies...eg "He cant have gone that far backward in one off season...so maybe he was poor all along and we shouldn't have picked him...who else are we picking that others wouldn't?"

We were picking him before we had the likes of Kirsten and McCarthy. Take those two blokes out, and as Meima states above, Mayne would be in front of Tabs (deservedly so), so likely we'd still be picking him if we had him.

Kirsten and McCarthy basically replace Pav and Yarran so the only pressure on Mayne, if he was still with us, is whether Griffin pays off as a Hale-type ruck-forward (fingers crossed he does) or whether Apeness can get on the park.